Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,498

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Read more

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14983 Oct 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
(continued from previous post....)
....WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.
How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:
"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you,“Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.
One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history — including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenants:
US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom...."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.
Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.
Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends — a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Questions:
Who were the "investors" who bought millions of dollars worth of "puts" on American and United airlines just before 9-11?
Who sent out emails to over 4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home from work on 9-11?
Who were the five dancing Israelis who had cameras all set up and video recorded the destruction of
the WTC--as it happened?
Wow. I never would have taken you for a conspiracy nut. I especially liked the part where the conspirators warned "4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home" ... closed mouth bunch, huh? What's your take on Pearl Harbor? Japanese treachery or Jewish plot? What about Enron? The Moon landings? How about UFO's?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14984 Oct 29, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
"God Bess America" sung at World Series
and increasing Public Prayer at Government meetings supported by
President Obama
Ricky Dawkins only on Cable
LOL
A sure sign of a nutjob is one who laughs at his own jokes.

Another example of Lincoln troll attacking Dawkins because he cannot attack Atheism

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14985 Oct 29, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Whooo! You English people really get pizzed off easy!
Its easier for you to make this comment, than admit you're a liar with no proof of god for your failing, tired old cult.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14986 Oct 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, if there were no lying, thieving murdering atheist Jews, the WTC would still be standing and 3000+ Americans would still be alive, bubba.
"Lucky Larry" Silverstein
You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million
Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.
Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.
The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.
Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.
Another little “coincidence”-- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.
Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.
There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?
The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.
The projected cost to disassemble the towers:$15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!
In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely....(continued next post)
The mental illness of creationism is similar to the mental illness that conspiracy theorists suffer from.

They are both delusions of reference.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14987 Nov 13, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
(continued from previous post....)
....WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.
How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:
"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you,“Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.
One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history — including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenants:
US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom...."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.
Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.
Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends — a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Questions:
Who were the "investors" who bought millions of dollars worth of "puts" on American and United airlines just before 9-11?
Who sent out emails to over 4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home from work on 9-11?
Who were the five dancing Israelis who had cameras all set up and video recorded the destruction of
the WTC--as it happened?
Got hit by an airliner and collapsed.

NEXT

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14988 Nov 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The mental illness of creationism is similar to the mental illness that conspiracy theorists suffer from.
They are both delusions of reference.
No doubt.
Ratloder

Naugatuck, CT

#14989 Nov 13, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
No doubt.
Start here.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/middle-east/...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14992 Nov 15, 2013
Atheists are horrible wrote:
<quoted text>
When is your fear of being wrong ever going to end, allowing you to stop requesting for proof? Are you unwilling to admit your faith in atheism is inadequate and very weak?
I really do pity your loss.
When you can honestly prove your god, your precious ego will no longer be offended by facts stated by atheists.

Its a pity that you cannot stand by your claims and prove any of what you believe. Before proving what you believe, you expect all atheists to drop what they are doing and start praying to a creature that lives in your mind alone.

Thats what's so disgusting about faith based mental illnesses - they can't prove anything and shout at others when this is pointed out.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14993 Nov 15, 2013
Atheists are horrible wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be an ignorant atheist as well since you agreed with a moron.
Its because you're a coward that you cannot admit that you have no proof of god, make no mistake.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14994 Nov 15, 2013
Atheists are horrible wrote:
<quoted text>
When is your fear of being wrong ever going to end, allowing you to stop requesting for proof? Are you unwilling to admit your faith in atheism is inadequate and very weak?
I really do pity your loss.
Atheism exists, because religious people lied.

To say atheism is a faith, is dishonest - it is your cult that makes the faithful, not atheism.

Atheism is a simple disbelief in the proofless claims your cult makes about society.
Barry

Israel

#14996 Nov 16, 2013
zink wrote:
well I THINK atheism will replace religion but probably not for a few hundred years..
I trust that as the world's population becomes more educated, they will also become more rational. Atheism is necessarily irrational.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14997 Nov 17, 2013
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
I trust that as the world's population becomes more educated, they will also become more rational. Atheism is necessarily irrational.
And since the Vodun(Voodoo), the Satanist and the Pagans, are theist (indoctrinated) just like you, you have so many more votes against those few of us, who are un-indoctrinated. Aren't you proud to be in such company?

Maybe you should concentrate on the non believers, and leave the un indoctrinated alone. That group the un indoctrinated, are the real atheist, and it includes every newborn, infant, and most of the toddlers, the world over.

Atheist = not theist. The "A" means not.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14998 Nov 17, 2013
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
I trust that as the world's population becomes more educated, they will also become more rational. Atheism is necessarily irrational.
That is one of the plusses of education. People may become more rational, and less easily bamboozled. Imagine falling for a god who could be beaten by the simple iron chariot, or a god who would make you eat your own children, or even one who would punish a man by having his wife raped in the street. There is nothing like a bit of education to get people dumping the filthy bible god, and the quicker the better.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14999 Nov 17, 2013
Atheists are horrible wrote:
<quoted text>
Needing proof is your mental weakness.... and your resulting anger and temper tantrums are expected....the Bible even predicts this reaction.
You'll understand this once you are burning with flames wrapped around you for eternity. And yes, I know you already know this but your stupidity keeps you retaliating against the truth.
Please, feel free to continue to persecute me. The Bible predicted it.
Not only the buybull, but the Quran too.

Your Abrahamic god is not really letting any one into heaven. First of all, as Allah he is barring anyone who is not Islamic, and as Yahweh he is barring anyone who is not Jewish, and as Jehovah, he is barring anyone who has a bastard in their family (along with the entire family line) for a complete nine generations past the bastard's conception. BTW: That means not even Jewsus gets in, he is a bastard.
Siro

Brisbane, Australia

#15000 Nov 17, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
A sure sign of a nutjob is one who laughs at his own jokes.
Another example of Lincoln troll attacking Dawkins because he cannot attack Atheism
Dawkins is a sanctimonious arrogant elitist pig, he only gets the contempt he deserves.
Everyone laughs at you, you probably reread your own posts and laugh and think to yourself 'Hurr hurr hurr...whoever wrote this must be stooooopid!' That is until you remember your braindead troll name for topix atheism in skeptic.
You then go into the bathroom at a shopping centre, look at the person in front of you and think 'Hurr hurr hurr....what a goofy looking doofus!'
And you keep laughing until you realise that you are standing in front of a mirror.

Hurr, hurr, hurr..........
Siro

Brisbane, Australia

#15001 Nov 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Not only the buybull, but the Quran too.
Your Abrahamic god is not really letting any one into heaven. First of all, as Allah he is barring anyone who is not Islamic, and as Yahweh he is barring anyone who is not Jewish, and as Jehovah, he is barring anyone who has a bastard in their family (along with the entire family line) for a complete nine generations past the bastard's conception. BTW: That means not even Jewsus gets in, he is a bastard.
Jesus doesnt get in???!!????
Maybe you should nominate yourself to be a god.....?
Everyone would get in through you, they dont even have to die...(just ask the bucks in gary, indiana)
Barry

Israel

#15002 Nov 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>And since the Vodun(Voodoo), the Satanist and the Pagans, are theist (indoctrinated) just like you, you have so many more votes against those few of us, who are un-indoctrinated. Aren't you proud to be in such company?
Maybe you should concentrate on the non believers, and leave the un indoctrinated alone. That group the un indoctrinated, are the real atheist, and it includes every newborn, infant, and most of the toddlers, the world over.
Atheist = not theist. The "A" means not.
Actually, most of those you make mention of are not atheists. Although theists are those that are sure there is a God, the "a" in "atheist" does not mean "not" as in "is NOT sure there is a God". Those people are agnostics. Rather, the "a" in atheism means "opposite". That is, a theist is sure there is a God. An atheist is sure there is no God. And that is irrational. If you are interested in why, I will be happy to explain it in a further post.
Barry

Israel

#15003 Nov 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>That is one of the plusses of education. People may become more rational, and less easily bamboozled. Imagine falling for a god who could be beaten by the simple iron chariot, or a god who would make you eat your own children, or even one who would punish a man by having his wife raped in the street. There is nothing like a bit of education to get people dumping the filthy bible god, and the quicker the better.
I might be an ignorant Bible scholar, but could you elaborate on your examples. You seem to imply that the Bible describes God being beaten by an iron chariot, that God forces people to eat their own children, and that God punishes men by having their wives raped in the street. Perhaps there is some portion of the Bible that I missed, but I don't remember those sections.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15004 Nov 17, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Dawkins is a sanctimonious arrogant elitist pig, he only gets the contempt he deserves.
Everyone laughs at you, you probably reread your own posts and laugh and think to yourself 'Hurr hurr hurr...whoever wrote this must be stooooopid!' That is until you remember your braindead troll name for topix atheism in skeptic.
You then go into the bathroom at a shopping centre, look at the person in front of you and think 'Hurr hurr hurr....what a goofy looking doofus!'
And you keep laughing until you realise that you are standing in front of a mirror.
Hurr, hurr, hurr..........
Cowardly creationists try to attack Dawkins, because they've realised that they can't attack Atheism.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15005 Nov 17, 2013
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, most of those you make mention of are not atheists. Although theists are those that are sure there is a God, the "a" in "atheist" does not mean "not" as in "is NOT sure there is a God". Those people are agnostics. Rather, the "a" in atheism means "opposite". That is, a theist is sure there is a God. An atheist is sure there is no God. And that is irrational. If you are interested in why, I will be happy to explain it in a further post.
Atheism is a simple disbelief in religious bullsh*t.

You don't need any more posts to know or understand this fact any better.

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