Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,456

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story
xianity is EVIL

Tecumseh, Canada

#14286 Aug 27, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer posits that modern humans have only been around for 50,000 years. That's wrong. What part of "wrong" do you fail to understand?
And, the guys and gals at UC Berkeley have done another math redo and pushed the date for the emergence of Mitochondrial Eve, the mother of all modern humans, even further back to between 140,000 and 200,000 BP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Ev...
The dates for the emergence of Y-chromosomal Adam, the father of all modern humans, vary between 188,000 and 338,000 BP, and DNA evidence says grandpa Adam had at least two sons. LOL Imagine that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Ad...
It looks like modern humans weren't that much different from other animals for well over a 100,000 years before the clock stuck 12,000 BP. Then everything about the way humans behaved obviously changed. The question no evolution theory has ever answered is what caused this change to occur?
adaptation to the natural condition,if people and all living things didnt adapt to their environment they would die off..

http://youtu.be/UkuCtIko798
Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14287 Aug 27, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer posits that modern humans have only been around for 50,000 years. That's wrong. What part of "wrong" do you fail to understand?
And, the guys and gals at UC Berkeley have done another math redo and pushed the date for the emergence of Mitochondrial Eve, the mother of all modern humans, even further back to between 140,000 and 200,000 BP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Ev...
The dates for the emergence of Y-chromosomal Adam, the father of all modern humans, vary between 188,000 and 338,000 BP, and DNA evidence says grandpa Adam had at least two sons. LOL Imagine that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Ad...
It looks like modern humans weren't that much different from other animals for well over a 100,000 years before the clock stuck 12,000 BP. Then everything about the way humans behaved obviously changed. The question no evolution theory has ever answered is what caused this change to occur?
Last paragraph is no science! Humans were like "other animals" until 12,000 BP!"????

Homo Sapiens is the only surviving humanoid specis within the ape Family. Our closest humanoid specis perished only about 10.000 years ago but it did not go without interbreeding with Homo sapiens. All Homo Sapiens, except Southern Africans, have up to 4% Neaderthall genes. Other two humanoid genes are found in some Asian populations in Indonesia.

Our closest living specis are Bonobos and chimps.

Most successful humnoid specis by logeivity werfe: Homo Erectus as they survived for more than 1 million years. We may or may not be vertical decendant specis of Homo Erectus. However, we would be related decendant specis for sure. No Adam and Eve. When archologist talk about Eve they talk about a common ancestor for Homo Sapiens. There is bound to be a population which mutated into Homo Sapien.

Homo Sapien then is the most sucessful specis technologicaly and that was possible due to environmental challenges and specis sacrifices along the way. 50,000 years ago Homo Sapiens were hunter/gatherers and they struggled to stay alive as they , too, were prey to carnivores and poisonous animals when they did not perish due to other deseases.

Now how come this well "educated" Arch Bubba insist on persisting about tales from human inveted relgion as part of human specis history?





Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14288 Aug 27, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
adaptation to the natural condition,if people and all living things didnt adapt to their environment they would die off..
http://youtu.be/UkuCtIko798
Good link but will the Arch Bubba accept it? LOL!

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14289 Aug 27, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
adaptation to the natural condition,if people and all living things didnt adapt to their environment they would die off..
http://youtu.be/UkuCtIko798
Species do not physically adapt to changes in their environment. When environmental changes come, existing species either already have the physical traits to survive, thrive, and reproduce.... or their species dies out and goes extinct. Millions of species have already died out and gone extinct since the Earth first evolved.

Again, selection pressure does not explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#14290 Aug 27, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Species do not physically adapt to changes in their environment. When environmental changes come, existing species either already have the physical traits to survive, thrive, and reproduce.... or their species dies out and goes extinct. Millions of species have already died out and gone extinct since the Earth first evolved.
Again, selection pressure does not explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations.
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.

Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.

There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!

And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!

Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...

That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?

What does science say about it?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14291 Aug 27, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer posits that modern humans have only been around for 50,000 years. That's wrong. What part of "wrong" do you fail to understand?
And, the guys and gals at UC Berkeley have done another math redo and pushed the date for the emergence of Mitochondrial Eve, the mother of all modern humans, even further back to between 140,000 and 200,000 BP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Ev...
The dates for the emergence of Y-chromosomal Adam, the father of all modern humans, vary between 188,000 and 338,000 BP, and DNA evidence says grandpa Adam had at least two sons. LOL Imagine that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Ad...
It looks like modern humans weren't that much different from other animals for well over a 100,000 years before the clock stuck 12,000 BP. Then everything about the way humans behaved obviously changed. The question no evolution theory has ever answered is what caused this change to occur?
Whatever. It's clearly the magical thing that happened when "the clock struck 12,000BP" that has you all a-twitter. Humans aren't that much different from other animals RIGHT NOW if you ask me. In fact, I'm far more impressed with our similarities than our differences. As far as I'm concerned our ancestry and that of all living things on the planet can be traced back to the primordial ooze, so haggling over when this or that branch split off the family tree doesn't really make much difference. That being said, spill it ... what do you say happened that has supposedly stumped "evolution theory". Aliens come down and impress us with their inexplicable technology? LOL

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14292 Aug 27, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Species do not physically adapt to changes in their environment. When environmental changes come, existing species either already have the physical traits to survive, thrive, and reproduce.... or their species dies out and goes extinct. Millions of species have already died out and gone extinct since the Earth first evolved.
Again, selection pressure does not explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations.
Your understanding of evolutionary processes seem limited. When a species is presented with changing environmental conditions, SOME OF IT'S POPULATION may possess characteristics that provide a benefit under the new conditions. For instance, our species has populated the Earth from the frozen North to Equatorial Africa, by virtue of some minor adaptations such as melatonin concentration, subcutaneous fat layers, etc. Should Global Warming dominate or a new Ice Age dawn, there will still be people who will feel right at home. Species only die out when they have become over-specialized or confined themselves somehow to too narrow an ecological niche.

"By simple mathematics, it follows that the human race is about 300 generations old. If one assumes a typical generation is about 20 years, this gives an age of about 6000 years." <courtesy of some creationist website>

I was wondering why you keep harping on the '300 generation' thing. Problem is, you and your creationist buddys can't agree whether 300 generations is 6000 or 12000 years. What variation on this rather tired theme do you intend to play here Bucko? Do you really think you are on to something that has stumped evolution or science? LOL

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14293 Aug 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
Wow, MUQ! What a frighteningly ignorant and unenlightened thing to say. That there are Human Beings on the planet from supposedly advanced civilizations who are still this ignorant of the facts is very sad. I am sorry for you. Take comfort in the knowledge that you would make a great Poster Child for the 'Too Much Religion is a Bad Thing' movement.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#14294 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
In my humble opinion, the Syrian people won't tolerate another oppressor. It would be hard to imagine a more extreme Muslim than Assad. He's what every extreme Muslim dreams of becoming ... Supreme Dictator of their very own nation!!
A Osama would be worse. We have to be careful about aiding the rebels, lest a Morsi should erupt.
Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14295 Aug 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
Non-scientific to say that humans evolved like all other species on the earth? On which planet does this MUQ live? Or in what era does he live? Humans suddenly appeared and the rest evolved? Or the rest was placed earlier for "human benefit only"? MUQ is defending discredited beliefs and he knows it. He is wrong and to preach falsehood about such issues knowing them to be wrong can be said tom evil even if one life is lost by ignorant pleb who is misled. OH! MUQ!
Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14296 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, MUQ! What a frighteningly ignorant and unenlightened thing to say. That there are Human Beings on the planet from supposedly advanced civilizations who are still this ignorant of the facts is very sad. I am sorry for you. Take comfort in the knowledge that you would make a great Poster Child for the 'Too Much Religion is a Bad Thing' movement.
MUQ is an Indian muslim jihadist and works for a Saudi jihadist outfit. He is then drenched in his religion and its political aims.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14298 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer posits that modern humans have only been around for 50,000 years. That's wrong. What part of "wrong" do you fail to understand?
And, the guys and gals at UC Berkeley have done another math redo and pushed the date for the emergence of Mitochondrial Eve, the mother of all modern humans, even further back to between 140,000 and 200,000 BP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Ev...
The dates for the emergence of Y-chromosomal Adam, the father of all modern humans, vary between 188,000 and 338,000 BP, and DNA evidence says grandpa Adam had at least two sons. LOL Imagine that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Ad...
It looks like modern humans weren't that much different from other animals for well over a 100,000 years before the clock stuck 12,000 BP. Then everything about the way humans behaved obviously changed. The question no evolution theory has ever answered is what caused this change to occur?
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14301 Aug 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?
He's leading up to it. Something undeniably magical must have happened 12000 (or 6000 ... let's just say '300 generations' ago). The 'reveal' is coming and I'm sure we'll all be on our knees worshiping something before it's all over.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14302 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Your understanding of evolutionary processes seem limited. When a species is presented with changing environmental conditions, SOME OF IT'S POPULATION may possess characteristics that provide a benefit under the new conditions. For instance, our species has populated the Earth from the frozen North to Equatorial Africa, by virtue of some minor adaptations such as melatonin concentration, subcutaneous fat layers, etc. Should Global Warming dominate or a new Ice Age dawn, there will still be people who will feel right at home. Species only die out when they have become over-specialized or confined themselves somehow to too narrow an ecological niche.
"By simple mathematics, it follows that the human race is about 300 generations old. If one assumes a typical generation is about 20 years, this gives an age of about 6000 years." <courtesy of some creationist website>
I was wondering why you keep harping on the '300 generation' thing. Problem is, you and your creationist buddys can't agree whether 300 generations is 6000 or 12000 years. What variation on this rather tired theme do you intend to play here Bucko? Do you really think you are on to something that has stumped evolution or science? LOL
Evolution says even if some individual members of a species population already possess traits that will enable them to survive environmental change, unless there are enough of those individual members which survive, thrive and reproduce in viable numbers, the species will die out and go extinct like millions of other species have.

The length of time designated for a “generation” is different for every science. Geneticists generally use 29 years for female line generations and 34 years for male line generations. Anthropologists and sociologists have been using a 40 year generation model for about 100 years because the evidence of the archaeological record indicates that all human cultures/societies everywhere on the globe have been adopting new paradigms and reinventing themselves, their religions, world views, etc, about every 40 years for the last 12,000.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14303 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
He's leading up to it. Something undeniably magical must have happened 12000 (or 6000 ... let's just say '300 generations' ago). The 'reveal' is coming and I'm sure we'll all be on our knees worshiping something before it's all over.
Ugh, uh. Not unless, one of it's major components is bacon.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14304 Aug 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.

At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".

No, i don't see humans surviving forever.

Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in the past that only a few hundred or thousanAd humans survived. No scientist has made any predictions about a 6th human extinction event being imminent and won't. However, scientists are closely monitoring the continuing rise of greenhouse gases, glacial melts, rise of sea levels, weather patterns, rainfall, deforestation, land desertification, degradation of aquifers, and NO scientist is saying everything is going to be just fine.....

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14305 Aug 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?

Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?

Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#14306 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?
Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?
Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....
Explain how they did it in your version with only 6'000 years.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14307 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?
Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?
Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....
I've never even heard of any kind of mystery surrounding what you have turned into your very own '$64000 dollar question'. It's not even a valid question. The first tool use dates back 2.5 million years. You should be asking 'how did we progress from crude stone tools to the Space Age in 2.5 million years'. Still a remarkable achievement and one that is very well documented. 12000 years ago, Humans were still involved in migrating around the globe. Why don't you get us all off the edge of our seats and lay out what you think you got? It's pretty clear that you godbots have to have had something 'special' happen '300 generations' ago to fit in with your mythology. So come on ... spit it out. What are ya? Chicken!?!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14308 Aug 28, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Ugh, uh. Not unless, one of it's major components is bacon.
The discovery of Bacon was clearly a pivotal point in Human development. I know it changed my life.

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