Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at News24.

spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10415 May 8, 2013
Sorry to rain on your parade, but to have a "mind" you need a brain. No brain, no mind. An entity that is invisible, silent and inert, with no brain or mind, can be considered not to exist, except in theory.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#10416 May 8, 2013
MUQ is brainless.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10417 May 8, 2013
JOEL wrote:
MUQ is brainless.
lol.

You can get quite clever theists, who just believe in silly things for stupid reasons, like being indoctrinated into a religion by their parents.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#10418 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
Here's another great Einstein quote, MUQ
“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.....”
Albert Einstein
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman
Imhotep

Sun City Center, FL

#10419 May 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I see you are unable to grasp how he is mocking your god. He was also a huge proponet for evolution :)
But since you like the great Einstein and his quotes? Let's rock!
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.(Albert Einstein, 1954)
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
I do not believe in a personal God.
Albert Einstein, 1954 :)
Checkmate b1tch!
<quoted text>
Not bad but you should've included these as well

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
Albert Einstein

- Albert Einstein, Out Of My Later Years:
"One strength of the Communist system ...is that it has some of the characteristics of a religion and inspires the emotions of a religion."

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow."
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein

I particularly like this one - taken from a letter Einstein wrote shortly before he died....

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

"Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.... Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me." ~Albert Einstein

"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." ~Albert Einstein

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." ~Albert Einstein

And I saved the best for last... LOL

"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
-Albert Einstein

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10420 May 8, 2013
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”

Albert Einstein

Since: May 11

Nottingham, UK

#10421 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”
Albert Einstein
...and the rest of the quote please.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#10422 May 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I only asked a simple question "What is atheism and who is an atheist"?
What answers I get tell only negatives, i.e Athiesm do NOT believe in God and Athiesm do not believe in religions....that is fine.
But what they Do believe in?
That depends on the atheist.
You cannot have only Negatives to replace a thing that has Positive attributes. Do you.
Sure you can, especially when the original word is used negatively as an insult.
So far no one is able to give me simple answer to this question.
Is this question "too difficult" for you to answer?
Atheism is simply the lack of belief in deities. Since that is the *only* criterion for being an atheist, there is a wide range of *other* beliefs that atheists have. For example, there are secular humanists that believe that morality is about maximizing human potentiL and happiness. But not all atheists are secular humanists (nor vice versa). Some atheists are interested in social justice, some are not. Some atheists are scientists, others are artists, soldiers, or housewives.

So the problem is that your question has no answer. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in deities. Nothing else. Is that too difficult for you to understand?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10423 May 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I only asked a simple question "What is atheism and who is an atheist"?
What answers I get tell only negatives, i.e Athiesm do NOT believe in God and Athiesm do not believe in religions....that is fine.
But what they Do believe in?
You cannot have only Negatives to replace a thing that has Positive attributes. Do you.
So far no one is able to give me simple answer to this question.
Is this question "too difficult" for you to answer?
Oh Muq. How many times?
You ignore answers from me an others. See Polymath's post above.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10424 May 8, 2013
COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS

Throughout history, there have been many renditions of universal unity, connectivity, and the spectrum of considered possibility of mankind. The idea bears similarity to the ancient Buddhist concept of Indra's net, Teilhard de Chardin's conception of the noosphere, Hegel's Absolute idealism, Satori in Zen, and to some traditional pantheist beliefs.

Many of those who have used psychedelics such as LSD and Psilocybin mushrooms have asserted that they have had direct experience of the cosmic consciousness. In the 19th century, Canadian psychiatrist Richard M. Bucke developed a theory which claimed that cosmic consciousness lies in a mystic state above and beyond self-consciousness, the natural state of man's consciousness, just like animal consciousness lies below.

Cosmic Consciousness: A Study in the Evolution of the Human Mind is the title of a 1901 book by Richard Maurice Bucke. In it, Bucke developed a theory involving three stages in the development of consciousness: the simple consciousness of animals; the self-consciousness of the mass of humanity (encompassing reason, imagination, etc.); and cosmic consciousness — an emerging faculty and the next stage of human development.

Alexander Zelitchenko in his "Svet Zhizni" (Light of Life, History of Humankind in Psychosphere of Earth) continues this line, joined the directions of thought of Oswald Spengler, Lev Vygotsky, Lev Gumilev, Carl Jung tracing the transformations of human consciousness in course of history.

According to P. D. Ouspensky, as man evolves into higher states of consciousness, e. g. cosmic consciousness, he needs the tools of a higher form of logic, Ouspensky calls Tertium organum given to the title of his 1912 book. Bucke’s conclusion was that these individuals were "gifted" in the direction of cosmic consciousness and then developed this consciousness through self-discipline.
Some modern psychologists and theologians make specific reference to Bucke’s work. They include Carl Jung, Erich Fromm, Robert de Ropp, and Abraham Maslow. Others who have used the concept of cosmic consciousness, as introduced by Bucke in 1901, include Albert Einstein, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and Alan Watts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_conscious...

Atheists can be described as people who are stuck in the lower “self-consciousness” phase of human development and have not evolved into higher states of consciousness.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#10425 May 8, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...and the rest of the quote please.
If he put up the full quote it wouldn't fit his lie

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10426 May 8, 2013
Yes these are all wonderful quotes to which Muq and his ilk will ignore.
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>Not bad but you should've included these as well

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
Albert Einstein

- Albert Einstein, Out Of My Later Years:
"One strength of the Communist system ...is that it has some of the characteristics of a religion and inspires the emotions of a religion."

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow."
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein

I particularly like this one - taken from a letter Einstein wrote shortly before he died....

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

"Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.... Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me." ~Albert Einstein

"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." ~Albert Einstein

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." ~Albert Einstein

And I saved the best for last... LOL

"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
-Albert Einstein

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10427 May 8, 2013
Why do you butcher and edit his quotes?

Pathetic.
ezdzit wrote:
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”

Albert Einstein

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10428 May 8, 2013
Your editorial opinion piece means nothing and Einstein never believed such rubbish as a god head created all.

You are living a delusion Einstein would say you are living in the chains of religion. Enjoy your mind numbing prison.
ezdzit wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_conscious...

Atheists can be described as people who are stuck in the lower “self-consciousness” phase of human development and have not evolved into higher states of consciousness.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10429 May 8, 2013

“The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who—in their grudge against traditional religion as the "opium of the masses"—cannot hear the music of the spheres.”

Albert Einstein

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#10430 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
Here's another great Einstein quote, MUQ
“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.....”
Albert Einstein
Einstein read the Bhagavad Gita daily. He also believed God to be awesome and remote uninvolved in the affairs of man.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#10431 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS
Throughout history, there have been many renditions of universal unity, connectivity, and the spectrum of considered possibility of mankind. The idea bears similarity to the ancient Buddhist concept of Indra's net, Teilhard de Chardin's conception of the noosphere, Hegel's Absolute idealism, Satori in Zen, and to some traditional pantheist beliefs.
Many of those who have used psychedelics such as LSD and Psilocybin mushrooms have asserted that they have had direct experience of the cosmic consciousness. In the 19th century, Canadian psychiatrist Richard M. Bucke developed a theory which claimed that cosmic consciousness lies in a mystic state above and beyond self-consciousness, the natural state of man's consciousness, just like animal consciousness lies below.
Cosmic Consciousness: A Study in the Evolution of the Human Mind is the title of a 1901 book by Richard Maurice Bucke. In it, Bucke developed a theory involving three stages in the development of consciousness: the simple consciousness of animals; the self-consciousness of the mass of humanity (encompassing reason, imagination, etc.); and cosmic consciousness — an emerging faculty and the next stage of human development.
Alexander Zelitchenko in his "Svet Zhizni" (Light of Life, History of Humankind in Psychosphere of Earth) continues this line, joined the directions of thought of Oswald Spengler, Lev Vygotsky, Lev Gumilev, Carl Jung tracing the transformations of human consciousness in course of history.
According to P. D. Ouspensky, as man evolves into higher states of consciousness, e. g. cosmic consciousness, he needs the tools of a higher form of logic, Ouspensky calls Tertium organum given to the title of his 1912 book. Bucke’s conclusion was that these individuals were "gifted" in the direction of cosmic consciousness and then developed this consciousness through self-discipline.
Some modern psychologists and theologians make specific reference to Bucke’s work. They include Carl Jung, Erich Fromm, Robert de Ropp, and Abraham Maslow. Others who have used the concept of cosmic consciousness, as introduced by Bucke in 1901, include Albert Einstein, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and Alan Watts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_conscious...
Atheists can be described as people who are stuck in the lower “self-consciousness” phase of human development and have not evolved into higher states of consciousness.
Interesting stuff. Do you believe in mysticism?

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10432 May 8, 2013
"Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous."

Albert Einstein

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#10433 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
     
“I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker. The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions, so how can it conceive of a God, before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one?”
Albert Einstein
 
 
I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature.(Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.
(Albert Einstein, Obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955)

I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
(Albert Einstein, responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein who had sent Einstein a cablegram bluntly demanding "Do you believe in God?" Quoted from Victor J. Stenger, Has Science Found God? 2001, chapter 3.)
Imhotep

Sun City Center, FL

#10434 May 8, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
“The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who—in their grudge against traditional religion as the "opium of the masses"—cannot hear the music of the spheres.”
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

And like me...a Humanist

Einstein was a Humanist and a supporter of the Ethical Culture movement. He served on the advisory board of the First Humanist Society of New York.

For the seventy-fifth anniversary of the New York Society for Ethical Culture, he stated that the idea of Ethical Culture embodied his personal conception of what is most valuable and enduring in religious idealism. He observed, "Without 'ethical culture' there is no salvation for humanity."

He was an honorary associate of the British Humanist organization, the Rationalist Press Association and its journal was among the items present on his desk at his death.

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