Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14659 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at News24.

Since: May 11

UK

#10350 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Athiesm is "Lack" of belief in gods.... again a "negative" trait. What is "positive" part in Athiesm?
A completely subjective answer.

Why is it assumed that belief in gods is a positive trait?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10352 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Are you unaware of what is posted on this thread?
On one hand they said "all the dictionaries are prepared by people who believe in religions, so their definition is not binding" on Athiests.
When did anyone ever say that?
You're just pulling claims out of thin air now.
MUQ wrote:
Now again you quote from these dictionaries of religious people?
They are not "dictionaries of religious people."
They are just dictionaries.
They are books and records that define the words we use and those are the only definitions for words.

MUQ, you're descending further into insanity.
MUQ wrote:
The Question of the thread is "Why Athiesm will replace religion"?
It's not a question.
MUQ wrote:
You replace some thing which is similar or better. You cannot replace replace Apple with oranges, saying they are better than apples.
Umm, yes you can.
You don't understand the word "replace," do you?
MUQ wrote:
So if you want to replace religion with Athiesm, you have to prove that Athiesm is better than religions.
Well, atheists look at facts and don't pretend they know the answers. They either do or don't.
The answer to every question isn't "my god did it."
The answer to every question depends on whether there is evidence to support an answer or not enough evidence to support an answer.
MUQ wrote:
When we ask you to define "What is atheism", you say "Not to believe in God"? How can it replace religions?
This is your dilemma?
The fact that you don't understand is your fault, not ours.
We can't make you understand if you don't want to, no matter how simple it is.
MUQ wrote:
When it comes to claims, you make very big claims, but when we ask very simple question like "What is Athiesm" and "Who is an Athiest" you have no answer!!
And then you also claim that we "religious people" are dumb!!
You obviously are dumb.
Those questions have already been answered time and time again.
You are on a quick decent into madness.
Madness is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result; you ask the same questions over and over and expect the answer to change when it never will.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10353 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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A completely subjective answer.
Why is it assumed that belief in gods is a positive trait?
The positive trait is being able to accept when we're wrong and learn from it.
There, there's the positive trait he wants.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10354 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...we have a "taxi rank" system here, I prosecute and defend.
What's a "taxi rank" system?
Shilltroll

Drexel Hill, PA

#10355 May 6, 2013
Atheists prove god exists every day
I've never met a happy atheist
Always miserable and trying to ruin everything
Constantly attacking and angry

Because they are missing out on true love
You guys are so sad

Btw what soup kitchens and orphanages do you guys run?
Oh that's right you people only care about yourselves
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10356 May 6, 2013
Shilltroll wrote:
...Btw what soup kitchens and orphanages do you guys run?..
Northern Europe's? Most charities in the UK wouldn't function without non-believers as most people in the Scotland and the UK don't seem to take religion or gods seriously..
http://humanism.org.uk/campaigns/religion-and...
and that's how it looks from my experience, not just according to the surveys.

There's no evidence that religionists are more generous or altruistic,(nor vice-versa). Humans are products of nature and nurture, not religion. It is empathy and sympathy that make us help others. Our personalities, not superstitions.
http://humanism.org.uk/humanism/humanism-toda...

This was one recent story here on Topix's Atheism Forum...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/18/1202...

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and unnecessary at best.

Since: May 11

UK

#10357 May 6, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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What's a "taxi rank" system?
....it`s like a taxi driver waiting for a fare, the radio guy gives the fare to the next driver in line.

Their are many barristers in a Chambers and the clerk of my chambers allocates cases on the same system, if you`re next in line you get the next case in line, it can be big or small, prosecution or defence.

However: one has to be willing to prosecute in the first instance to take prosecution cases, but if you ever want to sit on the bench you have to do both. If you just defend you will never become a Queens Counsellor(QC or `Silk`) or be called to be a Judge.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10358 May 6, 2013
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?

Since: May 11

UK

#10359 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
"It is estimated...."...by whom?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10360 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
....it`s like a taxi driver waiting for a fare, the radio guy gives the fare to the next driver in line.
Their are many barristers in a Chambers and the clerk of my chambers allocates cases on the same system, if you`re next in line you get the next case in line, it can be big or small, prosecution or defence.
However: one has to be willing to prosecute in the first instance to take prosecution cases, but if you ever want to sit on the bench you have to do both. If you just defend you will never become a Queens Counsellor(QC or `Silk`) or be called to be a Judge.
Interesting, and now I see why you said you do both.
Nice to see a man of ambition.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10361 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
And what of all the killings due to Christians?
Hitler?
The Spanish Inquisition?
MapDark

Montréal, Canada

#10362 May 6, 2013
Also this is a sophism.

The fact that a DICTATOR who HAPPENED to be ATHEIST killed tons of people doesn't mean that all atheists are horrible people planning to kill everyone.

And most victims of the communist regime were considered enemies of the regime , it wasn't based into a crazy belief of a non-existing being.

Most victims of the spanish inquisition , the crusades and all these religiously based war acts were simply people who were killing people who didn't have the same imaginary friend.

So both were horrible events , but burning people because your imaginary friend doesn't approve of them is just even worse.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#10363 May 6, 2013
Atheism means not believing in god, that's it. No matter how you want to reword it or rephrase it that is all atheism is. Where a person goes after that is up to them. It's like you arguing that a pasta lover must also agree and believe other propositions where we can have a Jewish pasta lover, a Muslim pasta lover or even a Hindu pasta lover. The only thing these 3 people may agree on is that they love pasta! So loving pasta is the only requirements to being a pasta lover as not believing in any god is the only requirement for being an atheist.

Now give this positive definition of infidel unless Allah isn't able to or doesn't exist. That wasn't a question so I did as you requested :)
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>I told you not to answer a question which another question, this is bad manners.

First let us complete with Atheism and beliefs of Athiesm , then you might ask abut other matters.

Why are you so shy to admit that there is "Nothing Positive" in Athiesm and 'No Positive traits" in Athiests!!

Why are you trying to cover up so much?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#10364 May 6, 2013
Wrong! Not believing in a superstitious delusion is a positive thing! Atheism is this 100% positive.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Athiesm is "Lack" of belief in gods.... again a "negative" trait. What is "positive" part in Athiesm?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10365 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
He also failed to mention how religionists twist the truth. Religion has been responsible for much sectarianism and madness in the modern world,(e.g. Zionism, Islamism - and whoever heard of an atheist suicide bomber or atheists rioting over religion or cartoons?) Atheism didn't motivate any bloodshed in the 20th century and religion didn't inhibit any.

Religion = superstition and the it's high time the world ditched it.
Imhotep

Ocala, FL

#10366 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
It is strange you call Allah Defensive?
And how could any Infidel Harm Allah?
He is far, far above every creature and how could any human Harm Him or take an iota away from His Kingdom?
They were born empty handed and they shall go their graves empty handed and they will leave every thing as it was!!
What Allah is warning these unbelievers is about the "consequences of their actions". They are under a test in this life and they must know about it.
Love and hate are two way streets and not one way. Ask jews, do they 'Love Muslims and Christians"?
Why you blame only one party?
Your opinion?

Dear Allah – A Poem

Written by Hassan. A narration by Nesrin.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...

Dear Allah,
I hope you get this letter, as I’m in a great deal of doubt.
I don’t get your Divine Plan, what’s it all about?

There you are, before a creation to fill
Nothing but Allah, he, himself and his will,

Perhaps you were lonely, though even then you knew.
You’d create angels, to obey and worship you.

Maybe this wasn’t enough, you were not amused,
But why you created Satan, just leaves me bemused

You gave man a mind and a freewill to choose
Then demanded he believe in irrational, contradictory clues

While keeping yourself hidden from all verification
Threatening torture if we don’t prostrate in supplication

You sent prophets and books to a patch of land
And miracles galore to that sacred area of sand

But before man can scientifically record and corroborate
You decide communications must now mysteriously terminate

You say you are testing mankind — to see who is true
Though saint and sinner, you already knew

But worse than this is the consequence of this test
It’s results are iniquitous — perverse at best

Those, who accept on faith, myths handed down
Will enjoy eternal bliss and never have to frown

While those who insist on reasoning with their brain
Will be sent to the fire of Hell to suffer eternal pain

Dear Allah none of this makes sense to me
Please tell me if there is something I’ve failed to see

And I don’t understand when so many suffer and die
What is the reason — I cannot see why?

Was it a test for the baby, her father or mother
Or was she sacrificed to test someone other?

When you planned all this did you count every tear
Was your ultimate purpose that we tremble in fear

And when all are in Heaven or Hell — as dictated by fate
Will you sit back on your throne to shouts of “Allah is Great”?

I don't think so ;)
MapDark

Montréal, Canada

#10367 May 6, 2013
MUQ , "lack" is not necessary a word with negative connotation. If you say you have a "lack" of cancer , I doubt there's anything negative about it.

But since you need a POSITIVE definition of atheism.

Atheism : Taking a position in which only quantifiable , measurable , visible or at the very least verifiable are taken into account when it comes to personal beliefs.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10368 May 6, 2013
MapDark wrote:
MUQ , "lack" is not necessary a word with negative connotation. If you say you have a "lack" of cancer , I doubt there's anything negative about it.
But since you need a POSITIVE definition of atheism.
Atheism : Taking a position in which only quantifiable , measurable , visible or at the very least verifiable are taken into account when it comes to personal beliefs.
Sound comments.
I've answered him too but he only seems to understand his own "ans." I've mentioned positive non-religious outlooks like humanism, skepticism, rationalism, free-thinking, and others. None of this seems to register with him at all. He seems to me incurably pro-Islamic, anti-secular and a typical fundie religionist.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10369 May 6, 2013
[QUOTE who=”MUQ”]<quoted text> ..........QUOTE]

Thank you for hanging in there and not stooping down to the sewer levels of these bigoted trolls. Your questions have been very thought provoking and I appreciate intelligent discuession--a rarity on Topix threads.

Presently, there are three Buddhists and two Muslims who have been elected to the US Congress so it doesn’t look like Islamophobic bigotry reaches from Topix to our voting booths.....

Since: May 11

UK

#10370 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for hanging in there and not stooping down to the sewer levels of these bigoted trolls. Your questions have been very thought provoking and I appreciate intelligent discuession--a rarity on Topix threads.
Presently, there are three Buddhists and two Muslims who have been elected to the US Congress so it doesn’t look like Islamophobic bigotry reaches from Topix to our voting booths.....
HA!

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