Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#10345 May 6, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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What makes you think you can tell others what to do and what not to do?
The fact that you refuse to answer the question shows your inability to answer it.
The question he answered your question with proves that your opinion about a definition not being able to be negative is wrong.
It's the most basic and simple logic that you can't even grasp.
Merriam Webster:
Atheism - A disbelief in the existence of deity.
One of the biggest dictionaries (and many many others) define it this way.
This completely disproves your opinion that a word must have a positive definition.
Are you unaware of what is posted on this thread?

On one hand they said "all the dictionaries are prepared by people who believe in religions, so their definition is not binding" on Athiests.

Now again you quote from these dictionaries of religious people?

The Question of the thread is "Why Athiesm will replace religion"?

You replace some thing which is similar or better. You cannot replace replace Apple with oranges, saying they are better than apples.

So if you want to replace religion with Athiesm, you have to prove that Athiesm is better than religions.

When we ask you to define "What is atheism", you say "Not to believe in God"? How can it replace religions?

This is your dilemma? When it comes to claims, you make very big claims, but when we ask very simple question like "What is Athiesm" and "Who is an Athiest" you have no answer!!

And then you also claim that we "religious people" are dumb!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10346 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Are you unaware of what is posted on this thread?
On one hand they said "all the dictionaries are prepared by people who believe in religions, so their definition is not binding" on Athiests.
Now again you quote from these dictionaries of religious people?
The Question of the thread is "Why Athiesm will replace religion"?
You replace some thing which is similar or better. You cannot replace replace Apple with oranges, saying they are better than apples.
So if you want to replace religion with Athiesm, you have to prove that Athiesm is better than religions.
When we ask you to define "What is atheism", you say "Not to believe in God"? How can it replace religions?
This is your dilemma? When it comes to claims, you make very big claims, but when we ask very simple question like "What is Athiesm" and "Who is an Athiest" you have no answer!!
And then you also claim that we "religious people" are dumb!!
Your religion is the ultimate cowardice.

It instructs you to kill people it can't bear to hear the truth from.

What coward could argue against reason? Far better to commit an immoral act than face facts eh MUQ?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10347 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you unaware of what is posted on this thread?
On one hand they said "all the dictionaries are prepared by people who believe in religions, so their definition is not binding" on Athiests.
Now again you quote from these dictionaries of religious people?
The Question of the thread is "Why Athiesm will replace religion"?
You replace some thing which is similar or better. You cannot replace replace Apple with oranges, saying they are better than apples.
So if you want to replace religion with Athiesm, you have to prove that Athiesm is better than religions.
When we ask you to define "What is atheism", you say "Not to believe in God"? How can it replace religions?
This is your dilemma? When it comes to claims, you make very big claims, but when we ask very simple question like "What is Athiesm" and "Who is an Athiest" you have no answer!!
And then you also claim that we "religious people" are dumb!!
The idiot that claims "god is possible" must claim him.

Atheists do not need to lift a finger.

We only need to wait for you to sh*t the f*ck up about your hallucinations before we ask you the same questions we have been asking you for centuries:

"Where the f*ck is your proof you lying c*nt? I ain't giving your cult a penny until you proof that religious garbage that just came out of your mouth son."

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#10348 May 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Bwhahahahahahahah...
1. Can you name a concept human beings DID NOT invent?
2. Do you not recognize that "disbelief" and "lack of belief" are different?
3. Would you like me to explain it to you?
I love it when a stupid slagstomping atheist supplies a defintion for his case, and it supports the other side.
You are quite a jewell, Milkdud.
#1 ... interesting question. Certainly there was a Universe, reality and everything that existed before Humans were able to conceptualize anything and that same will exist long after we have been reduced to our component atoms. Kind of makes one wonder who collapsed all the Quantum Wave Functions before we came along. It also begs the question of whether your Creator-Deity fellow was a preexisting feature or exists solely as a concept. Since we can not KNOW FOR CERTAIN if this fellow is real, he takes on a sort of QM aspect ... existing only within a 'cloud of probability', a Quantum Wave that (maybe) we collapsed when we formed our first wee-tiny-baby-thought. Wouldn't that be a hoot? Universe Creators winking out of existence when their creations form their first coherent thought. Makes sense and observations seem to support it.

Or are you after something deeper? Like the forest, tree, sound, no one there to hear it thing. Would the Universe exist without our conceptualizing it? Do we lend substance and meaning to a something that would otherwise be void and formless? I think not. We have always tried to take Center Stage, imagining the spotlight always on us ... the lack of applause has been deafening. I think our enormous ego is part of our survival instinct package. Who wants to pass mediocrity onto the future? Certainly not our DNA.

One thing's for sure. One day old Sol is gonna nova or fizzle out into a Red Giant or something and everything Mankind has ever carved, built, thunk or conceptualized is gonna be gone. Our one hope is to get off-planet and eventually become a star-faring race. We ain't gonna get there by sitting here waiting for Armageddon or Second or Third Comings or teaching kids bogus science. So yeah ... you people are threats. Not just to us but the whole dang UNIVERSE (if it needs us conceptualizing it to give it meaning or collapsing it's run-a-way wave functions or something). So y'all need to crawl back in your churches, temples, mosques and synagogues ... STFU ... and let the grownups handle things from now on.

Since: May 11

UK

#10349 May 6, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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So I can safely assume you're the defense?
I can't remember if you've told us before (by us I mean anyone on Topix before).
...we have a "taxi rank" system here, I prosecute and defend.

Since: May 11

UK

#10350 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Athiesm is "Lack" of belief in gods.... again a "negative" trait. What is "positive" part in Athiesm?
A completely subjective answer.

Why is it assumed that belief in gods is a positive trait?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10352 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Are you unaware of what is posted on this thread?
On one hand they said "all the dictionaries are prepared by people who believe in religions, so their definition is not binding" on Athiests.
When did anyone ever say that?
You're just pulling claims out of thin air now.
MUQ wrote:
Now again you quote from these dictionaries of religious people?
They are not "dictionaries of religious people."
They are just dictionaries.
They are books and records that define the words we use and those are the only definitions for words.

MUQ, you're descending further into insanity.
MUQ wrote:
The Question of the thread is "Why Athiesm will replace religion"?
It's not a question.
MUQ wrote:
You replace some thing which is similar or better. You cannot replace replace Apple with oranges, saying they are better than apples.
Umm, yes you can.
You don't understand the word "replace," do you?
MUQ wrote:
So if you want to replace religion with Athiesm, you have to prove that Athiesm is better than religions.
Well, atheists look at facts and don't pretend they know the answers. They either do or don't.
The answer to every question isn't "my god did it."
The answer to every question depends on whether there is evidence to support an answer or not enough evidence to support an answer.
MUQ wrote:
When we ask you to define "What is atheism", you say "Not to believe in God"? How can it replace religions?
This is your dilemma?
The fact that you don't understand is your fault, not ours.
We can't make you understand if you don't want to, no matter how simple it is.
MUQ wrote:
When it comes to claims, you make very big claims, but when we ask very simple question like "What is Athiesm" and "Who is an Athiest" you have no answer!!
And then you also claim that we "religious people" are dumb!!
You obviously are dumb.
Those questions have already been answered time and time again.
You are on a quick decent into madness.
Madness is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result; you ask the same questions over and over and expect the answer to change when it never will.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10353 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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A completely subjective answer.
Why is it assumed that belief in gods is a positive trait?
The positive trait is being able to accept when we're wrong and learn from it.
There, there's the positive trait he wants.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10354 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...we have a "taxi rank" system here, I prosecute and defend.
What's a "taxi rank" system?
Shilltroll

Drexel Hill, PA

#10355 May 6, 2013
Atheists prove god exists every day
I've never met a happy atheist
Always miserable and trying to ruin everything
Constantly attacking and angry

Because they are missing out on true love
You guys are so sad

Btw what soup kitchens and orphanages do you guys run?
Oh that's right you people only care about yourselves
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10356 May 6, 2013
Shilltroll wrote:
...Btw what soup kitchens and orphanages do you guys run?..
Northern Europe's? Most charities in the UK wouldn't function without non-believers as most people in the Scotland and the UK don't seem to take religion or gods seriously..
http://humanism.org.uk/campaigns/religion-and...
and that's how it looks from my experience, not just according to the surveys.

There's no evidence that religionists are more generous or altruistic,(nor vice-versa). Humans are products of nature and nurture, not religion. It is empathy and sympathy that make us help others. Our personalities, not superstitions.
http://humanism.org.uk/humanism/humanism-toda...

This was one recent story here on Topix's Atheism Forum...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/18/1202...

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and unnecessary at best.

Since: May 11

UK

#10357 May 6, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
What's a "taxi rank" system?
....it`s like a taxi driver waiting for a fare, the radio guy gives the fare to the next driver in line.

Their are many barristers in a Chambers and the clerk of my chambers allocates cases on the same system, if you`re next in line you get the next case in line, it can be big or small, prosecution or defence.

However: one has to be willing to prosecute in the first instance to take prosecution cases, but if you ever want to sit on the bench you have to do both. If you just defend you will never become a Queens Counsellor(QC or `Silk`) or be called to be a Judge.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10358 May 6, 2013
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?

Since: May 11

UK

#10359 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
"It is estimated...."...by whom?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10360 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
....it`s like a taxi driver waiting for a fare, the radio guy gives the fare to the next driver in line.
Their are many barristers in a Chambers and the clerk of my chambers allocates cases on the same system, if you`re next in line you get the next case in line, it can be big or small, prosecution or defence.
However: one has to be willing to prosecute in the first instance to take prosecution cases, but if you ever want to sit on the bench you have to do both. If you just defend you will never become a Queens Counsellor(QC or `Silk`) or be called to be a Judge.
Interesting, and now I see why you said you do both.
Nice to see a man of ambition.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#10361 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
And what of all the killings due to Christians?
Hitler?
The Spanish Inquisition?
MapDark

Montréal, Canada

#10362 May 6, 2013
Also this is a sophism.

The fact that a DICTATOR who HAPPENED to be ATHEIST killed tons of people doesn't mean that all atheists are horrible people planning to kill everyone.

And most victims of the communist regime were considered enemies of the regime , it wasn't based into a crazy belief of a non-existing being.

Most victims of the spanish inquisition , the crusades and all these religiously based war acts were simply people who were killing people who didn't have the same imaginary friend.

So both were horrible events , but burning people because your imaginary friend doesn't approve of them is just even worse.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#10363 May 6, 2013
Atheism means not believing in god, that's it. No matter how you want to reword it or rephrase it that is all atheism is. Where a person goes after that is up to them. It's like you arguing that a pasta lover must also agree and believe other propositions where we can have a Jewish pasta lover, a Muslim pasta lover or even a Hindu pasta lover. The only thing these 3 people may agree on is that they love pasta! So loving pasta is the only requirements to being a pasta lover as not believing in any god is the only requirement for being an atheist.

Now give this positive definition of infidel unless Allah isn't able to or doesn't exist. That wasn't a question so I did as you requested :)
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>I told you not to answer a question which another question, this is bad manners.

First let us complete with Atheism and beliefs of Athiesm , then you might ask abut other matters.

Why are you so shy to admit that there is "Nothing Positive" in Athiesm and 'No Positive traits" in Athiests!!

Why are you trying to cover up so much?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#10364 May 6, 2013
Wrong! Not believing in a superstitious delusion is a positive thing! Atheism is this 100% positive.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Athiesm is "Lack" of belief in gods.... again a "negative" trait. What is "positive" part in Athiesm?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10365 May 6, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
The atheist author who wrote the title article of this thread “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion” claiming that atheism is a modern phenomena for some reason failed to mention anything about atheism’s bloody 20th century history. It is estimated that atheist dictators and their atheist henchmen murdered between 149 and 249 million men, women, and children from 1919 to 1987 in various countries around the world. I guess if someone is trying to sell atheism to a new generation of sheeple it’s probably not a good idea to mention what cold blooded, lying, theiving murderers atheists have been in the past, is it......?
He also failed to mention how religionists twist the truth. Religion has been responsible for much sectarianism and madness in the modern world,(e.g. Zionism, Islamism - and whoever heard of an atheist suicide bomber or atheists rioting over religion or cartoons?) Atheism didn't motivate any bloodshed in the 20th century and religion didn't inhibit any.

Religion = superstition and the it's high time the world ditched it.

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