Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,477

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9567 Apr 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"Fundies" seem a put down, except You seem so similar to a religious fundamentalist. No doubt of your truths, funny though they may be.
Nah, if you want a fundie on the opposite side then you want Skippy the 'Skeptic'.
Lincoln wrote:
"Scientific view of the earths history" would be amusing in a freshman history class. History may be a bit more complex.
No doubt.
Lincoln wrote:
“Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning...”
C.S. Lewis
That's nice. Go tell it to the atheists.(shrug)

Oh wait, didn't you claim I was a fundie? Such irony.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9568 Apr 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
"Free Will" is not absolute free will, if you are thinking on these lines. God does not want to "punish" His creations, that is why He did include a "Built-in" things calls conscience and a sub conscience that tells us what is right and what is wrong.
This is different from "Mystic feeling" you are talking about. Every human has a built-in sense of presence and existence of God, it is using his or her "free will" many times and again and again that the voice of this sub-conscience become very weak and he is bold enough to declare "there is no God, I searched every where but I could not see Him"
We can certainly control our "emotions" and deny the presence of Creator (as these professed atheists are saying)..
And this might have happened because of "wrong models of God that many religions furnished" .
But rejecting some or most models of God, does not mean that one should reach to conclusion that there is no God.
They should be in search for Model which answers their needs…and they should use their God given power of reasoning for this end.
So why do you constantly ignore your God-given power of reasoning?(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9569 Apr 20, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound confused.
You think about it for awhile.
He did.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#9570 Apr 20, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah, if you want a fundie on the opposite side then you want Skippy the 'Skeptic'.
<quoted text>
No doubt.
<quoted text>
That's nice. Go tell it to the atheists.(shrug)
Oh wait, didn't you claim I was a fundie? Such irony.
Lincoln is arguably the most inept troll in here.

A few months back he came on these boards and I responded to some of his posts before realising that he had no intention of answering the posts directed at him.

So I stopped posting to him. Lots of others have, too.

He really hates that, hence his laughable attempts at trying to goad people.
KJV

United States

#9571 Apr 20, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>Who uses lasers to kill people?
Yup. What do you use?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9572 Apr 20, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Carling Black Label is pretty grim.
Owes more to the skill of the chemist than the skill of the brewer.
Belle Gueule tastes like the water left over from mopping up a floor full of puke.
KJV

United States

#9573 Apr 20, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>Peppered moth and e coli.
LOL

So you don't really know anything about what you're talking about. Got it.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9574 Apr 20, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound confused.
You think about it for awhile.
You obviously can't read.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9575 Apr 20, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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I beg to differ you should be inspired with this
Why do I say this
Today’s scholars can only use the known, that is historical reigning Roman Emperors as a reference in determining dates.
So, since the Bible clearly and unambiguously claims that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the King, then he, Jesus, had to have been born no later than 4 B.C.
What a delicious irony! Jesus could only have been born a minimum of four years before the birth of Jesus.
After you stop laughing though, consider the import of this paradox.
I should mention this also
Meeting for the first time in March 1985, the Jesus Seminar has periodically brought together dozens of university scholars and gospel specialists representing every shade of Christian thought, plus a few Jews and atheists.
In their initial study, the scholars collected more than 1500 versions of approximately 500 Jesus parables, aphorisms, dialogues, and stories written during the first 300 years of Christianity.
After 6 years of debate and reflection the consensus was that 82% of the words attributed to Jesus were fake.
In phase two, between 1991 and 1996, the Jesus Seminar considered 387 versions of 176 'Jesus events'. Their conclusion: 84% of the activities attributed to Jesus were bogus.
In contrast, Caesar's words and deeds are fully documented by multiple witnesses.
Caesar was an eyewitness to many of the events he describes in his commentaries. He wrote not for posterity but to have an immediate impact on the power players in Rome as he schemed to advance his own career.
The elapsed time between the wars and Caesar's own writing was a matter of months or at most a few years.
In contrast, the elapsed time between the gospel reports and the supposed events that they describe is at least 40 years for 'Mark' and 60-70 years for the other three Gospels.
And just who was witness to that fabulous nativity,
30-odd years before the grande finale?
At the most generous understanding,'Luke' and 'Matthew' were recording hearsay testimony a century after angels, shepherds and wise men went calling.
The unembellished truth is that the gospel accounts were written by eyewitnesses to nothing but their own skills of fabrication.
For good reason, based on spatial and temporal proximity alone, historians give more credence to Caesar's commentaries than to the gospels, no matter how prolifically they were copied.
;)
You are a pathological liar, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9576 Apr 20, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. What do you use?
Again, can you not read?
She asked "who" not whatever you think it was that warranted a "yes" or "no."

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9577 Apr 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
"Free Will" is not absolute free will, if you are thinking on these lines. God does not want to "punish" His creations, that is why He did include a "Built-in" things calls conscience and a sub conscience that tells us what is right and what is wrong.
This is different from "Mystic feeling" you are talking about. Every human has a built-in sense of presence and existence of God, it is using his or her "free will" many times and again and again that the voice of this sub-conscience become very weak and he is bold enough to declare "there is no God, I searched every where but I could not see Him"
We can certainly control our "emotions" and deny the presence of Creator (as these professed atheists are saying)..
And this might have happened because of "wrong models of God that many religions furnished" .
But rejecting some or most models of God, does not mean that one should reach to conclusion that there is no God.
They should be in search for Model which answers their needs…and they should use their God given power of reasoning for this end.
Good answer, well said, MUQ

An American psychiatrist named Scott Peck who was a former atheist/agnostic, wrote "The People of the Lie" and "The Road Less Traveled"--both good reads if you ever run across them in your part of the world Peck posits that laziness and narcissism are the reasons most people don't grow or evolve spiritually, i.e. they don't seek truth so they don't find any. Narcissistic personalities always want things that give them immediate gratification and experience extreme anxiety, frustration, and anger with anything that involves delayed gratification.....like searching for the truth.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9578 Apr 20, 2013
They vote with colored beads and are mostly laymen.

Neat!

Thanks for the laugh idiot!
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>You are a pathological liar, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#9579 Apr 20, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
laziness and narcissism are the reasons most people don't grow or evolve spiritually,
"Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9580 Apr 20, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Good answer, well said, MUQ
An American psychiatrist named Scott Peck who was a former atheist/agnostic, wrote "The People of the Lie" and "The Road Less Traveled"--both good reads if you ever run across them in your part of the world Peck posits that laziness and narcissism are the reasons most people don't grow or evolve spiritually, i.e. they don't seek truth so they don't find any. Narcissistic personalities always want things that give them immediate gratification and experience extreme anxiety, frustration, and anger with anything that involves delayed gratification.....like searching for the truth.
M. Scott Peck never claimed to be an agnostic nor atheist. This lie profits you not anyway, why do you do it?

Why do Christians lie so much? Who would want a religion based on lies?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#9581 Apr 20, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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M. Scott Peck never claimed to be an agnostic nor atheist. This lie profits you not anyway, why do you do it?
Why do Christians lie so much? Who would want a religion based on lies?
Absolutely - they have to lie to try and get anywhere.

Such is their disadvantage.

I guess they don't believe the Bible which clearly states that ALL liars are going to thrown into the lake of fire.

==========

Back to M. Scott Peck

"Eventually after having been referred several possible cases of possession and being involved in two exorcisms, he was converted to a belief in the existence of Satan"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Scott_Peck

Hardly an atheist or agnostic.

Lol
Lincoln

United States

#9582 Apr 20, 2013
After the news broke Monday afternoon that two bombs had exploded at the Boston Marathon finish line, prayer flooded my social media feeds. "Thoughts and prayers for folks in Boston," a former colleague posted on Facebook. "Pray for Boston," another friend wrote, echoing a popular Facebook page, Twitter hashtag, and image meme.
It was jarring. There was the weirdness of seeing so many references to the divine in spaces normally reserved for vacation photos and article links and quips about the news. It was tempting to think that all the social-media-fueled "prayers for Boston" somehow degraded the idea of prayer. As one Facebook commenter wrote on the Pray for Boston page: "Do you want me to DEFINE prayer? A solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship. Prayer is solemn. Not a 'like' on facebook."

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9583 Apr 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
After the news broke Monday afternoon that two bombs had exploded at the Boston Marathon finish line, prayer flooded my social media feeds. "Thoughts and prayers for folks in Boston," a former colleague posted on Facebook. "Pray for Boston," another friend wrote, echoing a popular Facebook page, Twitter hashtag, and image meme.
It was jarring. There was the weirdness of seeing so many references to the divine in spaces normally reserved for vacation photos and article links and quips about the news. It was tempting to think that all the social-media-fueled "prayers for Boston" somehow degraded the idea of prayer. As one Facebook commenter wrote on the Pray for Boston page: "Do you want me to DEFINE prayer? A solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship. Prayer is solemn. Not a 'like' on facebook."
Helping hands are far more useful than praying lips.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9584 Apr 20, 2013
2 hands actually helping are by far better than a million clasped in prayer.
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Helping hands are far more useful than praying lips.
Lincoln

United States

#9585 Apr 20, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
Helping hands are far more useful than praying lips.
without
a
doubt!
Lincoln

United States

#9586 Apr 20, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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"Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"
not if Republicans win the next election.

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