Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,385

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#9547 Apr 19, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Let me guess... the "judge it" icons are from someone that considers Bud Light a "good beer". ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Is Bud Light beer?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9548 Apr 19, 2013
So the two terror bombers very very religious Muslims Muq. What are your thoughts on that?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your appreciation, I do not get that always on these type of threads!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#9549 Apr 20, 2013
R Hill wrote:
Ah, so ... it's not really 'free will' then, more like sweaty palms or 'goosebumps', we just can't help ourselves.

Interesting. That supports the observation that electrical (or electromagnetic) stimulation of certain regions of the brain can induce religious or mystical 'feelings'.

All of this suggests a perfectly prosaic explanation for this 'God' nonsense ... it's all in our heads!!

I prefer to think that we can control our 'built-in' impulses and the ability to do so marks a person's level of sophistication. In any case, I think you've made important progress here MUQ ... well done!
Ans.

"Free Will" is not absolute free will, if you are thinking on these lines. God does not want to "punish" His creations, that is why He did include a "Built-in" things calls conscience and a sub conscience that tells us what is right and what is wrong.

This is different from "Mystic feeling" you are talking about. Every human has a built-in sense of presence and existence of God, it is using his or her "free will" many times and again and again that the voice of this sub-conscience become very weak and he is bold enough to declare "there is no God, I searched every where but I could not see Him"

We can certainly control our "emotions" and deny the presence of Creator (as these professed atheists are saying)..

And this might have happened because of "wrong models of God that many religions furnished" .

But rejecting some or most models of God, does not mean that one should reach to conclusion that there is no God.

They should be in search for Model which answers their needs…and they should use their God given power of reasoning for this end.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#9550 Apr 20, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't wrong. What's wrong is your representation of what Genesis 1 says.
When you say. "we're quite used to fundies being disingenuous" do you mean you and your sock puppets or something else?
I prefer the Big Bang Theory myself.

After all it did predict the very phenomena (a highly uniform cosmic microwave background) that is currently being investigated so spectacularly by the Planck Telescope.

The biblical account of creation omits this - but does include a talking snake, and the explanation that all the bad things in the world are the fault of one disobedient woman.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9551 Apr 20, 2013
Again this was not in any way shape or form asked of you. Nobody spoke of mystic feelings you are spamming from your scribd page again and need to be marked for mass deletion.
MUQ wrote:
Ans.

"Free Will" is not absolute free will, if you are thinking on these lines.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9552 Apr 20, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Good one... Spotted Cow
Never had that one.
Now I'll spoil everything by naming the worst beer I know:
Belle Gueule.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9553 Apr 20, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Tha's like sex on a beach... f*cking near water
Sorry to say, but most American beer is just that.

I prefer, as you saw, imported beers.
That or microbrewery beers.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9554 Apr 20, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>no, he`s/she`s not kidding.
What the hell did they taste like?

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9555 Apr 20, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Let me guess... the "judge it" icons are from someone that considers Bud Light a "good beer". ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Anything with "light" in it is usually just watered down crap.
I hate the beer my parents but all the time; Molson Dry.
Molson is okay sometimes, but not the best, and Dry is just tasteless.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9556 Apr 20, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>Is Bud Light beer?
It's water with a touch of alcohol.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9557 Apr 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
St. Pauli Girl
That's been on my "play list" since I was 18

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9558 Apr 20, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
Is Bud Light beer?
I suppose so... It's aimed at people that really don't like the taste of beer

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9559 Apr 20, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to say, but most American beer is just that.
I prefer, as you saw, imported beers.
That or microbrewery beers.
Yeah,can't disagree with you there. Thank goodness for the micro-brews!
Imhotep

United States

#9560 Apr 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
"Free Will" is not absolute free will, if you are thinking on these lines. God does not want to "punish" His creations, that is why He did include a "Built-in" things calls conscience and a sub conscience that tells us what is right and what is wrong.
This is different from "Mystic feeling" you are talking about. Every human has a built-in sense of presence and existence of God, it is using his or her "free will" many times and again and again that the voice of this sub-conscience become very weak and he is bold enough to declare "there is no God, I searched every where but I could not see Him"
We can certainly control our "emotions" and deny the presence of Creator (as these professed atheists are saying)..
And this might have happened because of "wrong models of God that many religions furnished" .
But rejecting some or most models of God, does not mean that one should reach to conclusion that there is no God.
They should be in search for Model which answers their needs…and they should use their God given power of reasoning for this end.
I beg to differ you should be inspired with this
Why do I say this

Today’s scholars can only use the known, that is historical reigning Roman Emperors as a reference in determining dates.

So, since the Bible clearly and unambiguously claims that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the King, then he, Jesus, had to have been born no later than 4 B.C.

What a delicious irony! Jesus could only have been born a minimum of four years before the birth of Jesus.

After you stop laughing though, consider the import of this paradox.

I should mention this also

Meeting for the first time in March 1985, the Jesus Seminar has periodically brought together dozens of university scholars and gospel specialists representing every shade of Christian thought, plus a few Jews and atheists.

In their initial study, the scholars collected more than 1500 versions of approximately 500 Jesus parables, aphorisms, dialogues, and stories written during the first 300 years of Christianity.
After 6 years of debate and reflection the consensus was that 82% of the words attributed to Jesus were fake.

In phase two, between 1991 and 1996, the Jesus Seminar considered 387 versions of 176 'Jesus events'. Their conclusion: 84% of the activities attributed to Jesus were bogus.

In contrast, Caesar's words and deeds are fully documented by multiple witnesses.

Caesar was an eyewitness to many of the events he describes in his commentaries. He wrote not for posterity but to have an immediate impact on the power players in Rome as he schemed to advance his own career.

The elapsed time between the wars and Caesar's own writing was a matter of months or at most a few years.

In contrast, the elapsed time between the gospel reports and the supposed events that they describe is at least 40 years for 'Mark' and 60-70 years for the other three Gospels.

And just who was witness to that fabulous nativity,
30-odd years before the grande finale?

At the most generous understanding,'Luke' and 'Matthew' were recording hearsay testimony a century after angels, shepherds and wise men went calling.

The unembellished truth is that the gospel accounts were written by eyewitnesses to nothing but their own skills of fabrication.

For good reason, based on spatial and temporal proximity alone, historians give more credence to Caesar's commentaries than to the gospels, no matter how prolifically they were copied.

;)
KJV

United States

#9561 Apr 20, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Bull shit, either the myth planned it all, or it doesn't exist.

He would have also planned the that the bible would be a contradictory mess, just so that the very few people who were willing to taste the forbidden tree of knowledge, would also be doomed like the ten generations following each and every bastard born, including the bastard, Jesus.
What?
KJV

United States

#9562 Apr 20, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God"?
You sound confused.

You think about it for awhile.
KJV

United States

#9563 Apr 20, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! It's the well being of people you may come in contact with that concerns me
So you're the worlds care taker?
KJV

United States

#9564 Apr 20, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
Oops post reply for WRONG PERSON

Apologies to reason personified

I blame this entirely on the devil- The devil caused it ;)

Apologies to reason personified

I haven't smoked my morning bong yet. Still working on coffee ;)
Ok we'll wait for you to finish your morning bong.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9565 Apr 20, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, what's wrong is your representation of what Genesis 1 says.
Penzias got it right and Jastrow got it right and you got it wrong, bubba. Deal with it.
There's nothing to deal with. I can safely ignore your tantrums.(shrug)

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#9566 Apr 20, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Never had that one.
Now I'll spoil everything by naming the worst beer I know:
Belle Gueule.
Carling Black Label is pretty grim.

Owes more to the skill of the chemist than the skill of the brewer.

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