Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,385

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9385 Apr 17, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
shhh...don`t tell `them` but there is no historical record of a Nazareth existing until the end of the first century CE.
Nazareth was in the Galilee near Mt. Carmel, one of many ancient Essene communities located in Palestine as well as in Egypt, Iraq, India, Persia, etc.

"In Phoenicia he (Pythagoras) conversed with the prophets who were the descendants of Moses the physiologist, and with many others, as well as the local heirophants .... After gaining all he could from the Phoenician Mysteries, he found that they had originated from the sacred rites of Egypt, forming as it were an Egyptian colony.... On the Phoenician coast under Mt. Carmel, where, in the Temple on the peak, Pythagoras for the most part had dwelt in solitude ... Mount Carmel, which they knew to be more sacred than other mountains, and quite inaccessible to the vulgar..."
(Life of Pythagoras by Iamblichus)

Mt. Carmel was considered holy ground by the Essenes and no building construction was allowed, only impermanent structures like tents and huts, so there wouldn't have been any building sites to be excavated by archaeologists except for the Mt. Carmel temple site which was located in 1929.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9386 Apr 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying your evidence was destroyed by the evil Christian conspiracy of the Council of Nicea nearly three centuries later?
Darn.
No. That's what your strawman says, not me, bubba.
MrC

UK

#9387 Apr 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
No point in trying to explain that one to fundies.
In fact ironically, for the same reasons, it also means God Himself has no free will. But fundies won't understand that either.
Paradoxes make their dogma hurt....

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#9388 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Man made the god(s), but man did not make that land mass called Italy, he just named the dirt.

Serious, go back to school. Your education is broken.
Nope, you need to go back and back up what you believe with facts. You have not seen evolution or tested anything. You can not explain evolution when we don't even have complete fossils. I've challenged you and your only reply is your dumb comments to other atheists. Now take the challenge loser and answer. Test your knowledge. If there's tons of evidence, show it to me. Lol! This is really beginning to get fun!

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#9389 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It has long ago been proven, and that none of us choose to rehash the billions of words, that make it undeniable, does not invalidate it's truth.

Serious, go back to school. Your education is broken.
Prove it! Show me what you know. Lol!

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#9390 Apr 17, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>Have you witnessed the birth of my child? I know that you have not.

My child exists, this is beyond dispute, she has a certificate of birth, a social circle, a family, she attends a school and her life affects my life and the life of her mother. You cannot accept that my daughter is alive and remain intellectually credible...not that you ever did, because only 4 people witnessed her birth and you were not one of them.

In your subjective reality which is motivated to preserve the illusion of your dogma you cannot in one breath say that you believe that my child exists and in another breath state that unless an event is witnessed by you it never happened in spite of evidence to show that it did.

Have you ever heard the maxim, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"? Your god requires `special pleading` even to exist as a concept. You god requires the acceptance of a priori roughly in the form of "everything exists until dis-proven", to even stand a chance in a reasoned and intellectually honest debate.
Is your child evolution? Did he/she evolve differently in some fashion or form? Please enlighten me. Have you witnessed evolution?

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#9391 Apr 17, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution does occur with every birth and every death. I was talking about speciation, the evolution of one species into another.

And you fail to read with comprehension, I carefully outlined the rare cases where it (speciation) can be seen in our life time.

But so what? Being there to witness it continuously is a ridiculous standard of evidence. YOU don't even abide by it. Were you there to see your Gawd create the world? Were you there to see this mythical Global Flood? Were you there to see this Christ guy? Or are you relying on evidence even less reliable than that of evolution, like ancient goat herder fables for example?
So why doesn't evolution predict the sex of a child? If so, when humans evolved from apes (chuckle) how did evolution decide if they were male or female?

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9392 Apr 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course no reason for us to be cynical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_%28...
When prayer healing works on an amputated limb from the shoulder or hip, let us know.
I am sure that "miracle" will be world wide news, bubba.

There are many things people believed were impossible....until somebody did it. People believed the 4 minute mile was impossible to run....until somebody did it a few years back. Now runners do it all the time and a few runners have even achieved shaving as much as 17 seconds off the 4 minutes.

Your mental construct of what is possible or impossible, real or unreal, true or not true, is just that.....a mental construct. It exists only in your mind.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9393 Apr 17, 2013
Sorry it didn't exist at the time your Jew on a stick was said to live. It doesn't appear on any maps at the time Josephus didn't document it on his maps not mention it in any of his writings.

Keep failing for our amusement though.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Nazareth was in the Galilee near Mt. Carmel, one of many ancient Essene communities located in Palestine as well as in Egypt, Iraq, India, Persia, etc.

"In Phoenicia he (Pythagoras) conversed with the prophets who were the descendants of Moses the physiologist, and with many others, as well as the local heirophants .... After gaining all he could from the Phoenician Mysteries, he found that they had originated from the sacred rites of Egypt, forming as it were an Egyptian colony.... On the Phoenician coast under Mt. Carmel, where, in the Temple on the peak, Pythagoras for the most part had dwelt in solitude ... Mount Carmel, which they knew to be more sacred than other mountains, and quite inaccessible to the vulgar..."
(Life of Pythagoras by Iamblichus)

Mt. Carmel was considered holy ground by the Essenes and no building construction was allowed, only impermanent structures like tents and huts, so there wouldn't have been any building sites to be excavated by archaeologists except for the Mt. Carmel temple site which was located in 1929.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9394 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>No fallacy because man made Italy not evolution.
Now you're saying man made Italy?
BAHAHAHAHA!
You're just making yourself look worse and worse.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9395 Apr 17, 2013
KJV wrote:
"If God is their creator as well, then if he wanted them to be different, he would have created them differently. "
He created them just as he wanted them to be. Who are you to tell God what he should have done?
I don't, you do!! If your God is all knowing when he created his creatures, then he knew what they would do when he made them, if he wanted them to make different decisions, he could have made them,(programmed them) to make different decisions of their own free will .... which would mean it is not really free will. Any time you claim someone "sinned" because of their "free will" then you are saying God should have created and programmed them differently at creation.
KJV wrote:
"Also, if these people used their "free will" to do something other than what God had planned, then God can not know the future, which would mean he is not God."
God gives free will even if he does not like what you do with it. This does not mean that he will not hold you accountable for your actions.
If this were true, then God can not create the future and therefore can not know the future, he is not omniscient and therefore, not God.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9396 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>Your only defense now is to use insults. That's funny.
You're the one who believes that anything you didn't witness yourself is false. By your own rule, you've proven your god to be false.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9397 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>So how did humans or any living creature start in this world?
Well, you don't know that either.
Did they even start?
I mean, you never witnessed a start, so there wasn't one, right?

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9398 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Then we can assume that no Jesus fossil has yet been found?
Ah, the Jesus fossil.
Sadly, we've only found the Jebus fossil, but it's close enough, right?

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9399 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
So why doesn't evolution predict the sex of a child? If so, when humans evolved from apes (chuckle) how did evolution decide if they were male or female?
Why would evolution need to "predict" the sex of a child?

With knowledge of genetics we can "predict" the sex of a child, in a manner of speaking, that is using evolution to predict the sex of a child. So what did that gain for you?

Your question makes as much sense as "How much sand does it take to make a fruit cake?" Completely non-sequitur.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9400 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Without fail, he does that.
Predictable.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9401 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it is you who claims to be educated, the only thing I have said about my own education, is that I have no higher education degrees. What I do have is certificates in welding, small engine mechanics, handling haz mat, wild land fire suppression, and I have a GED. So my less than stellar education, still trumps your multiple degrees from Notre Dame. That you even made it through the doors of an accredited university is debatable, for from what you have shown us here, your education could easily be no more varied, than if you had dropped out of school in the seventh or eighth grade, and stopped all learning then and there.
Correction:
3rd grade***

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9402 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I'd think that from either his priest, or his local Jehovah's witless clan. Either way his substandard education has failed him.
What about Mormonism?
They believe in a god that lives on a planet named Kolob.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9403 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>You tend to lie, more than you tell the truth too.

Serious, go back to school. Your education is broken.
Hey, did you know that Italy was made by man?

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9404 Apr 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Worse still, his beliefs have no evidence, evolution has literally tons of it.
It's hilarious, quite frankly.

Kolob-resident "God" would be proud.

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