Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14736 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#8479 Apr 9, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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You may talk like Yoda but are far far below him.
WAY below. There was a time when you could converse with MUQ, but now it's simply not possible. We reached a point on the evolution forum where we hit his wall of indoctrination where reality could not penetrate. Once we hit that wall he made the wall bigger. He's a lost cause now I'm afraid. But to be fair he's gotta be careful what he writes on the net lest he upset the more radical elements of his religion.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#8480 Apr 9, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Yes, of course, seeing that species change over time requires a scientific theory to understand those changes. Darwin's proposal was not the first (Lamarck had a different proposal). That is how science works: we make some observations, we formulate hypotheses about those observations, we make predictions based on the hypotheses, and we test those predictions by observation.
Darwin had enough fossils to know that the species in the past were different than those now and that those in the more distant past were more different. This was the basic information that both he and Lamarck were attempting to explain. The difference is that Darwin's, in spite of all his ignorance of gewnetics, gave a more coherent and predictive hypothesis. It was later extended to include the modern theory of genetics, so the theory as it iexists today is not the same as that proposed by Darwin.
As for 'speaking like an astrologer', it is a foundational aspect of science that it makes predictions. Unlike astrology, those predictions are then compared to actual observations, are required to be specific, and if the observations do not correspond with the prediction, the theory needs to be modified or discarded.
What we have found through the last 160 years, is that the basic model of natural selection works very well for many of the evolutionary changes we actually see, both in the fossil record and in the lab. So, yes, genetics had to be included in evolutionary theory (and was in the Modern Synthesis) and there are still alternative ways for species to change (genetic drift, for example), but Darwin's basic idea has stood the test of time.
And no, TOE and atheism are NOT related directly. Many atheists are sceintific in their outlook and evolution is part of science, but there are many theists that also understand evolution as a fact. The goal of evolutionary theory is to understand how biological species change over time. That they do was well established before Darwin.
I disagree that line-by-line is ackward and un-natural. In fact, I prefer to see the responses directly next to the topic requiring comment. For me, that flows much better. I would prefer you to write in a line-by-line fashion for my convenience and I will write in the other fashion for yours.
Speaking of woo, what do you think of Ezdtits' contention that Gaia theory and quantum physics (among other things) is proof of God?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#8481 Apr 9, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Speaking of woo, what do you think of Ezdtits' contention that Gaia theory and quantum physics (among other things) is proof of God?
General principle: anyone who doesn't know how to solve a differential equation shouldn't be talking about quantum mechanics. Anything they say about it can be ignored.

Since: Dec 10

Fogelsville, PA

#8482 Apr 9, 2013
Uves Soul wrote:
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Much of the domesic violence and other violence against women in general is by men that have had extensive exposure to pornography. Especially violent serial killers. Talk about the wrong side of intelligence.
How do you come up with that conclusion?

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#8483 Apr 9, 2013
The Male Gaze wrote:
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Yes, irresponsible behavior and expecting others to pay for it is soooo American. But in all honesty nobody has been denying women to degrade and demean themselves for many years now. I mean after all, treating yourself as a sexual object or piece of meat has no affect on other women right? How they "mistreat" their own body has no impact on how women are viewed by young boys, teens, or men, correct? Ya see, that's another huge problem in America that liberals wish to totally ignore. Much of which has been done through 'sexuality' and pornography.
That IS the war on women, and you are an idiot!
So ... a conservative's idea of "saving money" is to deny impoverished women access to "expensive" free contraception so they will be forced to raise unwanted and probably abused children on welfare ....

Yep! That confirms it!! Conservatives are stupid!

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#8484 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I do not know how people misrepresented Darwin. It is true he believed in God and did not support Atheism.
His Book Origin of Specie was neither a Scientific Treatise nor a text book of Biology.
It was just his comments on what he observed and how was his explanation about abundance of life forms.
It was a "personal memoir" type of book, but atheists world over greeted the book as if Manna had fallen from Sky.
They praised it too much calling it epoch breaking, most revolutionary book written in past 150 years and what not.
This book is certainly over rated and any one reading it now, can find mistakes upon mistakes in both facts and conclusions drawn from it.
They made Darwin a sort of giant, while in reality he was like a common man. No genius of any kind.
The Christian religion created a mythological Jesus in the same way the atheist religion created a mythological Darwin, and for the same reasons: to create false authorities to sell their propaganda to their sheeple followers.

Darwin was a courageous and very humble truth seeker. He deserves a great deal of credit for his actual contributions to science.
Lincoln

United States

#8485 Apr 9, 2013
In any militant atheist group where Jack's Law applies, a paradox exists where any new person sufficiently militant to be accepted by the group, is likely to be so ridiculous or repetitive that he risks being rejected as a parody.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#8486 Apr 9, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Perhaps you are unaware of the literally HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS of peer-reviewed published science papers on the subject? In fact a quick search on PubMed shows around 300,000. So since you're spouting COMPLETE ignorance on the subject, are you just lacking any sort of science education whatsoever or were you simply LYING FOR JESUS like 99.999999999% of all the other fundies around here?(shrug)
I mean even the bosses of the creationist movement admit that evolution has the support of the science community. And they're dumb-as-f ck YEC's.
300,000 papers, huh? So that's a rough estimate of maybe about 15,000,000+ pages? Were any of those written before it was discovered that prions reproduce and mutate WITHOUT having any DNA?
Hmmmmm.....?

There is no "theory of evolution", bubba. Doesn't mean that someday someone won't come up with a viable theory. It just means it has happened yet. Get it?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8487 Apr 9, 2013
That is the GOP platform.... They have no idea why they are bleeding members... Clueless!
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>So ... a conservative's idea of "saving money" is to deny impoverished women access to "expensive" free contraception so they will be forced to raise unwanted and probably abused children on welfare ....

Yep! That confirms it!! Conservatives are stupid!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8488 Apr 9, 2013
:SMH:

The dangers of home schooling on display.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>300,000 papers, huh? So that's a rough estimate of maybe about 15,000,000+ pages? Were any of those written before it was discovered that prions reproduce and mutate WITHOUT having any DNA?
Hmmmmm.....?

There is no "theory of evolution", bubba. Doesn't mean that someday someone won't come up with a viable theory. It just means it has happened yet. Get it?
Whitewater

Huntington, MA

#8489 Apr 9, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
So ... a conservative's idea of "saving money" is to deny impoverished women access to "expensive" free contraception so they will be forced to raise unwanted and probably abused children on welfare ....
Yep! That confirms it!! Conservatives are stupid!
Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? Or how about a condom? Or a brain? Morality? I didn't think so.

Speaking of irresposibility and the Clinton's and DOMA that he signed. If your own spouse can't trust you, how the hell is the public going to? Moron!

It's not fantasizing when the sexually deranged liberals are "forcing" homosexuality into the public school system, or even worse, allowing the preposterous concept of same sex marriage in the state of Assachewsetts. SS parenting, when the state is involved, violates all childrens basic human rights to be afforded a 'female' mother for nurturing, care, and bonding in the child's most indelible years of their lives.
The ridiculous sexually deranged idea that is ss/transgender parenting assures that all children will be 'deficient' growing up in a ss household, and if anything guarentees a child with the likelyhood of an identity crisis, just like homosexuals and transgenders already have.
Same sex parenting has already proven 'detrimental' in that, many children are brought up by generally 'single' mothers. Said children are regretfully at a disadvantage and having two women as parents will only confuse the child even further, let alone two men. But because of political corectness, votes, money, and jews, common sense and the principles of morality or virtues are abrogated entirely. There is nothing morally acceptable about the Clintons in any way, shape, or form. Liberal zionist pigs, eVeRyWhErE.....

Goodbye Rome
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Huntington, MA

#8490 Apr 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
That is the GOP platform.... They have no idea why they are bleeding members... Clueless!
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Regressive liberalism is a cancer upon the world and with you and bi's the spread of hiv/aids into the hetero populus. It's a good thing your numbers are so small because if you were 1/3 of the world's population we would have a global epidemic of hiv.
So stay small lil bro, real small.
lol

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#8491 Apr 9, 2013
Whitewater wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? Or how about a condom? Or a brain? Morality? I didn't think so.
Speaking of irresposibility and the Clinton's and DOMA that he signed. If your own spouse can't trust you, how the hell is the public going to? Moron!
It's not fantasizing when the sexually deranged liberals are "forcing" homosexuality into the public school system, or even worse, allowing the preposterous concept of same sex marriage in the state of Assachewsetts. SS parenting, when the state is involved, violates all childrens basic human rights to be afforded a 'female' mother for nurturing, care, and bonding in the child's most indelible years of their lives.
The ridiculous sexually deranged idea that is ss/transgender parenting assures that all children will be 'deficient' growing up in a ss household, and if anything guarentees a child with the likelyhood of an identity crisis, just like homosexuals and transgenders already have.
Same sex parenting has already proven 'detrimental' in that, many children are brought up by generally 'single' mothers. Said children are regretfully at a disadvantage and having two women as parents will only confuse the child even further, let alone two men. But because of political corectness, votes, money, and jews, common sense and the principles of morality or virtues are abrogated entirely. There is nothing morally acceptable about the Clintons in any way, shape, or form. Liberal zionist pigs, eVeRyWhErE.....
Goodbye Rome
Thanks for the additional verification!!
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Huntington, MA

#8492 Apr 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
:SMH:
The dangers of home schooling on display.
<quoted text>
Your avatar should read "givemedeath"
Much more appropriate.
Shalom
Lincoln

United States

#8493 Apr 9, 2013
Libertarians usually have a government job. :-)

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8494 Apr 9, 2013
Your's should say world's biggest moron.
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
<quoted text>Your avatar should read "givemedeath"
Much more appropriate.
Shalom
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Huntington, MA

#8495 Apr 9, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the additional verification!!
Nothing is for free my friend, nothing!

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#8496 Apr 9, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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MUQ, you demonstrated 3 years ago that you didn't know the basics of science in general, much less evolution in particular.(shrug)
Nothing matters to you except Islamic apologetics. Which just so happens to be the same as fundamentalist Christian apologetics, just with Jesus at teh top instead of Mo.
Yep.
Lincoln

United States

#8497 Apr 9, 2013
A soldier returns from Iraq and places a cross on the military base at camp Pendelton to memorialize his fallen comrades.

atheist-fundamentalists sue to remove it because it is on public property.:-)

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#8498 Apr 9, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
A soldier returns from Iraq and places a cross on the military base at camp Pendelton to memorialize his fallen comrades.
atheist-fundamentalists sue to remove it because it is on public property.:-)
Have they been to Arlington?

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