Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#8003 Apr 3, 2013
Evolution is factual science with mountains of observable data to back it up.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Here's what I posted, bubba:

"Atheists NEVER post any evidence supporting their theology of evolution....because not one scientist has ever published a peer reviewed stand alone theory for them to copy & paste. And all these posers who can barely spell claiming to have PhD status? Horse feathers....or is it dinosaur feathers these days?"

Which words "implied" I was asking or even inclined to ask an atheist anything about evolution?

You're not very good at admitting you're wrong when you're dead wrong, are you? TypicaL atheist....

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#8004 Apr 4, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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There's certainly no need to speculate about his reasons for reversing his beliefs about God as they are clearly stated and thoroughly explored in his book: "There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed his Mind."
One might say that Flew simply experienced the "worst fate of philosopher" phenomena which Nietzsche humorously described, i.e. to successful argue your position for decades, finally convert your opponents, and then become aware that you have serious doubts about that very same position
Many Atheists are raised in some church or another and have had similar epiphanies. Lacking Flew's notoriety, these changes in philosophy go unheralded and unnoticed. While these reversals seem 'profound' they usually don't result in gross behavioral changes. Chances are, the person setting next to you in church could be a closet Atheist (albeit a miserable one) suffering their doubts silently and alone, fearing rejection by his or her friends and family. People 'turn' all the time and usually without any kind of lucrative book deals waiting in the wings.

Let's face it, in the matter of the existence of a god or any kind of supernatural realm, volumes have been written, thousands of compelling arguments have been made, billions of heart-strings have been plucked, but (BUT!!) there is and remains NO EVIDENCE. In view of this complete lack of evidence, Atheism is and remains the only real, logical, philosophical conclusion. Agnosticism, fence setters, are awaiting the day someone comes up with an argument one way or the other so compelling as to remove all doubt. Never gonna happen.

Similarly, the poor theist, waiting for some revelation or physical manifestation of their deity. How many have driven themselves mad waiting? Never gonna happen. Too bad the only 'guarantee' of a judgement comes on the 'other side' of life. Reliable reports from that sector are few and far between. LOL

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#8005 Apr 4, 2013
Kesla15 wrote:
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Agreed,
I also think that all human beings simply push the boundary.
"Oh I don't want to die until i've found love"
"oh I don't want to die until i've reached old age".
We keep pushing the envelope until it falls off the table. We don't do it consciously but unless someone has a pretty miserable existance where they believe death will offer some kind of 'relief' that no one really accepts going into death.
I got ya! For me, it's been "Oh I don't want to die until this or that space mission has sent back results" or "I don't want to die until I've read Stephen King's next novel" or even "If I can just hold out until the next Star Trek movie is released". Life can get pretty miserable (imagine how that traitor, that Flew fellow, must feel) so one best be armed with some kind of highlighter. Highlight the good stuff, forget the bad stuff. At the end, the person with the most used up highlighters wins.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#8006 Apr 4, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>A strawman served with a red herring garnished of snarky ad hominems?

Typical atheist wit,,,,,,
Actually, I've just stopped treating him like a semi sane individual due to the fact that he thinks the Earth is only 6'000 years old, that there are not billions of planets yet he can't say how many there are, the fact that he thinks Pluto is still in debate as a planet when it hasn't been for at least 7 years, and that carbon dating is unreliable...yet his god, without any evidence behind it, trumps all that has massive evidence and proof behind them.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#8007 Apr 4, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>No, because there's no point in arguing with someone who erroneously believes opinions unsupported by any scientific evidence are called "facts". Get it?
Again, the theory of evolution is to explain how the observed fact of evolution works. Just like the theory of gravity is used to explain how the observed fact of gravity works.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#8008 Apr 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>You will notice there are some on here that have to have things black and white. There is either a god or not, an afterlife or not,you are either an athiest or a creationist, there are no room for maybes..according to some.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Atheism and creationism are not opposite each other, for atheism has no belief system as to how people came to be.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#8009 Apr 4, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicely done!
Point, set, match.
Next.....
LOL! Only in a game of 'pigeon chess'

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8010 Apr 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Devout atheist? When you get mad do you always slip up using Kurt Cameron/ Ray Comfort talking points or are we just lucky?
As for the rest of your creationist site collection of arguments may I say... Yawn... Been soundly refuted hundreds of times before.
Perhaps Ray Comfort has some other good talking points for you?
<quoted text>
I don't have any idea who either of those people are (note. I'm from England, not bible-bashing USA).

Creationism is a belief that God created every living being in a matter of 7 days. It's a Christian concept.

I've already told you repeatedly that I don't believe in creationism because it has been easily disproved by Darwin's beliefs. Plus other scientific enquiries which state that it is far more likely that the earth is millions of years old rather than a few thousand.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8011 Apr 4, 2013
You gotta be kidding wrote:
<quoted text>
I am very glad you have posted the following line "I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution", at least you are honest in that you "believe in" the myth of evolution. One issue I have is where is the evidence you mention, no one seems to have it, perhaps it has been lost or misplaced, perhaps it does not actually exist and your "I believe in" statement is closer to the truth.
As an agnostic does your inquiry include the possibility that there is a god or that GOD and the BIBLE are actually correct?
Personally my belief in evolution has nothing to do with my agnostic beliefs.

Because I see evolution as fact, there is proof all around us, even if you look at parent-child relationships you can see how the child mimics the phenotype of his / her parents.

As an agnostic, yes I say that the Bible COULD be correct, but I also believe it COULD be wrong. I'm not convinced enough either way so I just don't follow atheism or christianity. However, I do lean more towards athiesm than chrisianity, because the concept of a Bible created around 2000 years ago, by human beings, that supposedly explains the meaning of life, DOES seem a bit too farfetched.
Thinking

Staines, UK

#8013 Apr 4, 2013
Unfortunately, the quackery that is creationism isn't just limited to christians...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar
Kesla15 wrote:
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I don't have any idea who either of those people are (note. I'm from England, not bible-bashing USA).
Creationism is a belief that God created every living being in a matter of 7 days. It's a Christian concept.
I've already told you repeatedly that I don't believe in creationism because it has been easily disproved by Darwin's beliefs. Plus other scientific enquiries which state that it is far more likely that the earth is millions of years old rather than a few thousand.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8014 Apr 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
But why would you even bother with showing one isn't there?
Perhaps if at the start of this you hadn't been so gung ho about screaming idiot at me for my factually correct statement and had slowed down.... Again this whole debate was your doing, Pascal's wager and conservapedia terms aren't the strongest points for you to employ though I must say.
<quoted text>
Apologies if I came across like a "screaming idiot", perhaps if you hadn't insisted on patronising my original opinion then we wouldn't have ended up in this rather pointless argument (CONSIDERING I SHARE YOUR VIEW POINT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS ARGUMENT).

Once again, I am NOT conservative. I am socialist.

Incase your short-term memory loss occurs again, once more I AM AGNOSTIC.

I'm not a parrot, so i'm not going to repeat myself again.

Hope you have a nice day, respond to me if you actually have anything relevant to say.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8015 Apr 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Damn we really need a slam dunk icon!
<quoted text>
*bangs head against wall*

You obviously have some chip on your shoulder against anyone who doesn't agree with your views.

In the same way I smile and wave at Christian zealouts, I do the same to you, i'm happy that you have found a belief that you are certain of. However, not all of us are convinced either way. Because as of yet, no religion has been proved or disproved.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8016 Apr 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>You will notice there are some on here that have to have things black and white. There is either a god or not, an afterlife or not,you are either an athiest or a creationist, there are no room for maybes..according to some.
What's more so is that in this context a black or white can't be proven either way. If atheism is black and zealous religion is white... then I consider myself a very dark shade of grey.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#8017 Apr 4, 2013
RHill wrote:
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, while the wise, so full of doubt." <Bertrand Russel>
Brilliant !:)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#8018 Apr 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>You will notice there are some on here that have to have things black and white. There is either a god or not, an afterlife or not,you are either an athiest or a creationist, there are no room for maybes..according to some.
once again. the creationist moves the goalposts instead of addressing the proof factor behind her erroneous beliefs
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#8019 Apr 4, 2013
zink wrote:
well I THINK atheism will replace religion but probably not for a few hundred years..
In the nuclear age mankind will die earlier in an atomic inferno!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#8020 Apr 4, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
In the nuclear age mankind will die earlier in an atomic inferno!
Haven't you heard!?!? This is the 'Information Age'... the Nuclear Age having passed with a whisper.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#8021 Apr 4, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry no. It's merely a lack of belief in a god. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because atheists don't believe in a god has no bearing on whether one exists or not.
<quoted text>
Exactly, lack of knowledge. That's why one can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist. Can you see why it's important to distinguish between the two?
<quoted text>
Why do you think that taking anything on faith is a reasonable thing to do? The only good reason to believe something is if it is backed up with evidence. The complete opposite of faith.
<quoted text>
Really? What tenets do atheists follow? What atheists doctrine is written down anywhere? What established rules do atheists follow? If atheism is a religion, why aren't atheist foundations tax exempt?
Sorry, no god and so on. Right?
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#8022 Apr 4, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible says that all religion will be stopped except for the true one. Revelations 17,18
but people today are hardly religious themselves,
The bible at its best are fairy tales!

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#8023 Apr 4, 2013
You gotta be kidding wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok so we finally get back to what I originally asked for and that is proof, real, 100% infallible scientific proof that you faith in evolution is fact. No speculation no stupid articles and papers full of "we think", "we believe", "might have", I want you proof 100% factual. GO FOR IT do your best.
Don't back out now post you factual proof, that is what I have been asking for since this thread began.
No science will give you 100% proof

The best that science does is to provide theories which represent our very best explanations.

Science has provided many theories to explain observable phenomena.
How many theories? I don't know - probably many thousands.

You know what?

Not one of those theories has used magic as an explanation.

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