Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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So you are admitting that you either don't know any or that you don't have any. Typical.
No, I'm saying that idiots like you think that evolution is tied to atheism somehow. That's why you vomit out your ignorance to atheists and honestly believe you have posed the ultimate gotcha question to those smart aleck atheists. When the only thing you have done is knock over all the chess pieces and sh!t on the chessboard.

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If you had actually been following this thread you would know that I didn't ask anyone, atheist or otherwise, for proof of evolution. I never ask atheists about evolution.....ever. Period.
Get it?
Is this not your post?
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Atheists NEVER post any evidence supporting their theology of evolution....because not one scientist has ever published a peer reviewed stand alone theory for them to copy & paste. And all these posers who can barely spell claiming to have PhD status? Horse feathers....or is it dinosaur feathers these days?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
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Argument from Motion ... if everything must be put in motion by something else, what put the "first motion" into motion??-- Refuted!!
Argument from Efficient Causes ... if everything must have a cause, what caused God??-- Refuted!!
Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument)... If God has always existed, then what God is made of also has always existed. If that something is 'pure energy' as some maintain, then energy has never been created nor destroyed, it only changes form. Also energy makes up everything else in the universe ... that is everything is made of 'pure energy'... therefore no creator is required.--- Refuted!!
Argument from Gradation of Being ...'... there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being ...." Again, what caused God?--- Refuted!!!
Argument from Design ... "...some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end..." What designed God??... also, just because a pattern is 'perceived', it does not mean it truly exists. Sometimes you will see a bunny or a dragon in a cloud formation. That does not mean there is actually a bunny or a dragon there, your mind simply perceives that pattern. This is the same thing with "ID", just because you believe you see a pattern of design, that does not mean it exists.--- Refuted!!!
Is that all you got dummy?
On a circle, where does it begin and where does it end?

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On a circle, where does it begin and where does it end?
I love it.....so zen.

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Is this not your post?
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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Of course it's my post, bubba.

And where in my post, pray tell, do you read any words that even remotely resembles moi posing a question about evolution to an atheist, hmmmmmmm......?

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<quoted text>I don't live in the 'reality' that you do, I live in the true reality, not the fake evolutionary one.
You mean your deluded fantasy-reality.

You keep getting mixed up.
Donkeys don't talk in reality, in your delusional mind they do.

It's funny how you think you live in reality.

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<quoted text>If you had actually been following this thread you would know that I didn't ask anyone, atheist or otherwise, for proof of evolution. I never ask atheists about evolution.....ever. Period.

Get it?
Because you realize it's a fact and that there's no point in arguing the facts?

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You mean your deluded fantasy-reality.
You keep getting mixed up.
Donkeys don't talk in reality, in your delusional mind they do.
It's funny how you think you live in reality.
A strawman served with a red herring garnished of snarky ad hominems?

Typical atheist wit,,,,,,

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Of course it's my post, bubba.
And where in my post, pray tell, do you read any words that even remotely resembles moi posing a question about evolution to an atheist, hmmmmmmm......?
It's implied, f--kwit. You're not very good at plausible deniability.

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Because you realize it's a fact and that there's no point in arguing the facts?
No, because there's no point in arguing with someone who erroneously believes opinions unsupported by any scientific evidence are called "facts". Get it?
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Gravity is a state of mind.

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No, because there's no point in arguing with someone who erroneously believes opinions unsupported by any scientific evidence are called "facts". Get it?
The entire field of biology says you're wrong.

If you think it's wrong then you should submit your research for peer review. You don't get to call it wrong and then not propose a replacement theory.

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It's implied, f--kwit. You're not very good at plausible deniability.
Here's what I posted, bubba:

"Atheists NEVER post any evidence supporting their theology of evolution....because not one scientist has ever published a peer reviewed stand alone theory for them to copy & paste. And all these posers who can barely spell claiming to have PhD status? Horse feathers....or is it dinosaur feathers these days?"

Which words "implied" I was asking or even inclined to ask an atheist anything about evolution?

You're not very good at admitting you're wrong when you're dead wrong, are you? TypicaL atheist....

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<quoted text>Little wooden dude!
How's things?!
I'll take that as your abject failure to rebuke me.

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I'll take that as your abject failure to rebuke me.
Bye.
How can I rebuke a cute little wood chip like you.

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I agree. The love of money does indeed corrupt, and there's a mountain of irrefutable empirical evidence extending back over 12 thousand years of civilization for support support that argument which is a standard proverb in all religious texts, not just the "good book".
That said, nothing about Flew's life suggests a love of money influenced his decision to change his religion from atheism to deism. Flew said he came to believe in a Creator God as a result of the scientific evidence and philosophical argument. Maybe he, a philosopher, was finally confronted with real science, i.e. that it's mathematically impossible that the present diversity of life on this planet could have evolved from a random mix of swamp soup by accident in the short span of 4.6 billion years. Ya think?
Maybe we can apply "Occam's Razor" ... which is simpler? He had this amazing philosophical reversal as a result of "scientific evidence" (?) which the rest of us have somehow missed or he wanted to enrich himself by selling his book to a receptive audience?

As for "mathematically impossible" I remind you that we have far too few life-bearing planets in our database to calculate the odds in any meaningful way. We look with a measure of optimism towards Mars, Europa and even tiny Enceladus as possibly supporting life. The Kepler mission is finding hundreds of planets, some of which orbit in their star's "habitable zone" and the latest estimates place literally trillions of planets in our Universe.

4.6 billion years is hardly a "short span" and represents an appreciable chunk of the age of the Universe. At least you concede the Earth is that old ... I congratulate you for that.

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The entire field of biology says you're wrong.
If you think it's wrong then you should submit your research for peer review. You don't get to call it wrong and then not propose a replacement theory.
LOL Dream on, bubba.

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-- Robert Jastrow, American astronomer, physicist and cosmologist, Noble Laureate, and agnostic, from his book, "God and the Astronomers" ( p. 107)

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Hiya,
I suppose you coud argue it that way.
To me, agnosticism is purely a state of 'not knowing' what there is out there. While I accept the fact that there may or may not be a God, or an afterlife, i'm unable to commit to either idea because I don't have enough evidence to point me either way.
Personally, I think a majority of people who identify as athiests are actually agnostic, because athiesm in itself is a very devout belief that there is nothing afterwards, and I think everyone, no matter how firm they are in their beliefs, always have a nagging feeling at the back of their head; "what if i'm wrong?"
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, while the wise, so full of doubt." <Bertrand Russel>

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Hiya,
I suppose you coud argue it that way.
To me, agnosticism is purely a state of 'not knowing' what there is out there. While I accept the fact that there may or may not be a God, or an afterlife, i'm unable to commit to either idea because I don't have enough evidence to point me either way.
Personally, I think a majority of people who identify as athiests are actually agnostic, because athiesm in itself is a very devout belief that there is nothing afterwards, and I think everyone, no matter how firm they are in their beliefs, always have a nagging feeling at the back of their head; "what if i'm wrong?"
You will notice there are some on here that have to have things black and white. There is either a god or not, an afterlife or not,you are either an athiest or a creationist, there are no room for maybes..according to some.

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Maybe we can apply "Occam's Razor" ... which is simpler? He had this amazing philosophical reversal as a result of "scientific evidence" (?) which the rest of us have somehow missed or he wanted to enrich himself by selling his book to a receptive audience?
As for "mathematically impossible" I remind you that we have far too few life-bearing planets in our database to calculate the odds in any meaningful way. We look with a measure of optimism towards Mars, Europa and even tiny Enceladus as possibly supporting life. The Kepler mission is finding hundreds of planets, some of which orbit in their star's "habitable zone" and the latest estimates place literally trillions of planets in our Universe.
4.6 billion years is hardly a "short span" and represents an appreciable chunk of the age of the Universe. At least you concede the Earth is that old ... I congratulate you for that.
There's certainly no need to speculate about his reasons for reversing his beliefs about God as they are clearly stated and thoroughly explored in his book: "There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed his Mind."

One might say that Flew simply experienced the "worst fate of philosopher" phenomena which Nietzsche humorously described, i.e. to successful argue your position for decades, finally convert your opponents, and then become aware that you have serious doubts about that very same position

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