Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

[Pietro Armando]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Well at least atheists don't strap bombs to their chest and go on suicide missions like you Jewish wannabes do.
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Atheists are necessarily more peaceful, they can and do commit violence, sometimes on a large scale.

[Pietro Armando]

Lacez wrote:

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You lose your head quite often, I see.

Laces out.

[Pietro Armando]

Givemeliberty wrote:

I advocate the separation of church and state.
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As do I. Perhaps you would like to eradicate all reference to religion or a deity in the public square. You could start by beginning s campaign to rename any American city that has a religious name, such as St.Louis, St.Paul, or Corpus Cristi. Remove "In God We Trust" from our currency. Certain professional sports teams would also require a name change. No more Angels, Saints, Devils, even the Padres. That's a start for now. Get to work.

[Givemeliberty]

Atheists have that as well, we just don't attribute it to some made up god as your ilk does.

Pietro Armando wrote:

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No but neither is a sense of passion and wonder.

[Pietro Armando]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Atheists are necessarily more peaceful, they can and do commit violence, sometimes on a large scale.

That should have read "aren't "

[EdSed]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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That should have read "aren't "

That's true, but it isn't motivated by religion or the absense of belief(s) in god(s). Zionism, Islamism and other religions do motivate people to do harm. Fundamentalists see themselves as motivated by religion. That's what they say, not me. They say they are 'defending Islam' or refer to 'Christian duty', or 'my beliefs dictate'.

Religion = superstition and the results of superstition in any society have never been good.

[Givemeliberty]

But for every violent atheist you find there is easily 100,000 violent believers.

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Atheists are necessarily more peaceful, they can and do commit violence, sometimes on a large scale.

[Pietro Armando]

Givemeliberty wrote:

But for every violent atheist you find there is easily 100,000 violent believers.
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That atheist can murder 100,000 believers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

[Pietro Armando]

EdSed wrote:

<quoted text>That's true, but it isn't motivated by religion or the absense of belief(s) in god(s). Zionism, Islamism and other religions do motivate people to do harm. Fundamentalists see themselves as motivated by religion. That's what they say, not me. They say they are 'defending Islam' or refer to 'Christian duty', or 'my beliefs dictate'.

The end result is still the same. Violence is still violence. Atheists lack of belief can also be a compelling motivation. Stalin had no issue with mass murder.

Religion can, and has, motivate people to help their fellow man, to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, house the homeless, educate children and adults, care for widows and orphans, etc.

Religion = superstition and the results of superstition in any society have never been good.

Religion can, and has evolved. It can also incorporate science, law, medicine, and other areas of intellectual pursuit into its belief systems.

[Givemeliberty]

Hitler was a catholic Stalin went to priest school an is to this day a saint in the Russian Orthodox Church. All if these men were totalitarians. Do show where one of them stated they were having people killed in the name of atheism and not because of consolidating power?

Unlike Christians who gush over killing for Jesus like Hitler who dubbed the Jews Christ killers who were going to pay for that.

Pietro Armando wrote:

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That atheist can murder 100,000 believers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

[Givemeliberty]

You mean saint Stalin in the Russian Orthodox Church? Again he never once stated or wrote that he had people killed in the name of atheism.

You are flailing badly.

Pietro Armando wrote:

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The end result is still the same. Violence is still violence. Atheists lack of belief can also be a compelling motivation. Stalin had no issue with mass murder.
Religion can, and has, motivate people to help their fellow man, to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, house the homeless, educate children and adults, care for widows and orphans, etc.
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Religion can, and has evolved. It can also incorporate science, law, medicine, and other areas of intellectual pursuit into its belief systems.

[Buck Crick]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Well at least atheists don't strap bombs to their chest and go on suicide missions like you Jewish wannabes do.
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You wanna' bet on that?

[Buck Crick]

Givemeliberty wrote:

You mean saint Stalin in the Russian Orthodox Church? Again he never once stated or wrote that he had people killed in the name of atheism.

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You wanna' bet on that?

[Buck Crick]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Hitler was a catholic Stalin went to priest school an is to this day a saint in the Russian Orthodox Church. All if these men were totalitarians. Do show where one of them stated they were having people killed in the name of atheism and not because of consolidating power?
Unlike Christians who gush over killing for Jesus like Hitler who dubbed the Jews Christ killers who were going to pay for that.
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No.

Hitler was born into the Catholic Church, but hated Christianity and planned to eradicate it from Germany. Plans were already being implemented for completion as soon as they got rid of the jews. The Nuremberg documents prove this beyond any doubt, and it is not even debatable, except in certain isolated circles of christian-haters and nazi-sypathizers.

Hitlers philosophy was,...wait for it,...wait for it,...

DARWINISM!


Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda:

"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."

How, dear GiveMeLiverwurst, do you manage to be wrong on every single thing you say?

Seriously, how do you do it? Most people can be right once in a while just due to statistical probability.

How you can be wrong 100% of the time is mind-boggling.

Did you have a reverse NDE? Are you hallucinating about not being born yet?

You should submit yourself to scientific study. Your brain is truly a miracle in error.

[Buck Crick]

Givemeliberty wrote:

But for every violent atheist you find there is easily 100,000 violent believers.
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WRong again, GiveMeLiverwust.

Atheist mass murder in the last 75 years dwarfs the murders by believers in all of history.

What is it about atheists, that when they get a position of power, they start mass-murdering their own people?

Are they all - like you - just stupid as hell?

[Richardfs]

Buck Crick wrote:

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WRong again, GiveMeLiverwust.
Atheist mass murder in the last 75 years dwarfs the murders by believers in all of history.
What is it about atheists, that when they get a position of power, they start mass-murdering their own people?
Are they all - like you - just stupid as hell?

Why are so called christians and their god even committing murder in the first place?

[RHill]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Personally, I sense there's more beyond this physical existence. Can it be empirically proven? Not that I'm aware of. Is it your belief we came into existence from non existence and return to non existence?

Our senses, it turns out, suck at judging reality. Our personalities probably begin to form in the womb, we eventually become a sum of our experiences. We 'return to non-existence' when our brain activity stops. It's really not rocket science.

[RHill]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Indoctrination comes in many forms, religion is but one.

You're right about that! And those who get first crack at it have the advantage.

[RHill]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Ohhhh...but of course, after all you are one of the "civilized" people as opposed to the rest humanity....the savage masses yearning to be "civilized" under the tutelage of the elite. We are not worthy to be in your presence...the wise and civilized secular sage know as "Giveme liberty", we thought you but a legend, but now we know you are a legend in your own mind.
In the words of the great philospher, Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon"!
Where would Western Civilization be if not for the influence of, good, bad, or ugly, religion in general, and Christianity in particular?
Now back to the Wise and Wonderful Wizard of Give me liberty.......give us a break...Madone!

Maybe there wouldn't be a Western Civilization and an Eastern Civilization trying to kill each other.

[RHill]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Oh yes...secularistic, and or atheistic belief system never infringe upon others. Some are more equal than others.

How can we infringe on anybody? Make all knowledge accessible, then give people the freedom to choose. We're almost there.