Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#6255 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"None of the stories in the bible have any evidence to support them besides the existence of a geological location."
When I debunk this then you are completely debunked.
You use words like "None" and 100%
That leaves you no room to back peddle. You atheist make this way to easy!
"Until very recently, there was no evidence outside the Bible for the existence of King David. There are no references to him in Egyptian, Syrian or Assyrian documents of the time, and the many archaeological digs in the City of David failed to turn up so much as a mention of his name. Then, on July 21, 1993, a team of archaeologists led by Prof. Avraham Biran, excavating Tel Dan in the northern Galilee, found a triangular piece of basalt rock, measuring 23 x 36 cm. inscribed in Aramaic. It was subsequently identified as part of a victory pillar erected by the king of Syria and later smashed by an Israelite ruler. The inscription, which dates to the ninth century BC, that is to say, about a century after David was thought to have ruled Israel, includes the words Beit David ("House" or "Dynasty" of David"). It is the first near-contemporaneous reference to David ever found. It is conclusive; it does strongly indicate that a king called David established a dynasty in Israel during the relevant period as stated in the Bible. Archaeologist continue to find the evidence to substantiate the story's in the Bible as accurate."
For all we know you could have written that right now, please provide a source.
Also, for all we know, you could have a source that is religiously biased and doesn't actually have evidence...such as the last guy who gave a link.
"This guy that we can't prove existed says that Jesus existed and therefore Jesus existed."
That's not evidence.

Also, I wrote the above before actually reading what you wrote.
Now, after reading it, I see you ARE insane.
A guy in a story exists, therefore the story itself is true?
So Abraham Lincoln really WAS a vampire hunter!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#6256 Feb 23, 2013
https://vridar.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/the-t...

The crux of the problem in the interpretation of this lexeme is the absence of a word divider between the apparent two parts: &#1489;&#1497;&#15 14; (Beth) and &#1491;&#1493;&#14 91; (DWD). This suggests that the lexeme expresses a single word idea, not two words like house and David. In support of this Athas points out that elsewhere in the Tel Dan inscription word dividers are used regularly in expressions constructed from two or more concepts:on the ground of El-Baytel,the king of Israel,and thousands of horsemen,their land.

What next shroud of turin? Half Wit screws up again with his linkless spam.
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Until very recently, there was no evidence outside the Bible for the existence of King David.

Since: Apr 12

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#6257 Feb 23, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>No, my assertions are right.

"It says plants were growing before there was a sun."

Plants growing
Genesis 1:12:
"The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good."

The sun was not created until Genesis 1:16:
"God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

"The Noah's Ark story is absurd.
140,000 birds on a boat lined with tar!? Have you cleaned up a cage with one bird in it?"

Anybody can read the Noah's Ark story. Noah was told to take 7 pairs of each type of bird, and there are 10K species of birds. Do the math. And the story says the boat was lined on the inside and outside with "pitch", which is just another word for tar.
"It says plants were growing before there was a sun."

So? They were growing before there was a Sun but not before there was light.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.

The First Book of Moses, Called
Genesis
1

The Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: 2 Cor. 4.6 and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

"10K species of birds"

The Bible uses the word "Kind" not species. All Ducks would be one "kind" even though there are many Duck species.

Try educating yourself on the Bible before you choose to hate it.

Since: Apr 12

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#6258 Feb 23, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>What?

I stated that I do not believe in gods or a god, so why would I have to prove that I do not believe in something. That makes no sense at all; it is for you to present the proof of your statement that there is a god.

If you cannot defend your belief with proof then just say so and that will be that.
So.

Since: Apr 12

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#6259 Feb 23, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>You go ahead and live in your fantasy world where the bible is right.

We'll stick around here, in reality.
Thanks for your permission to do what I'm doing.

Since: Apr 12

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#6260 Feb 23, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>For all we know you could have written that right now, please provide a source.
Also, for all we know, you could have a source that is religiously biased and doesn't actually have evidence...such as the last guy who gave a link.
"This guy that we can't prove existed says that Jesus existed and therefore Jesus existed."
That's not evidence.

Also, I wrote the above before actually reading what you wrote.
Now, after reading it, I see you ARE insane.
A guy in a story exists, therefore the story itself is true?
So Abraham Lincoln really WAS a vampire hunter!
Use Google.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#6261 Feb 23, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text> https://vridar.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/the-t...

The crux of the problem in the interpretation of this lexeme is the absence of a word divider between the apparent two parts: &#1489;&#1497;&#15 14; (Beth) and &#1491;&#1493;&#14 91; (DWD). This suggests that the lexeme expresses a single word idea, not two words like “house” and “David”. In support of this Athas points out that elsewhere in the Tel Dan inscription word dividers are used regularly in expressions constructed from two or more concepts:“on the ground of El-Baytel”,“the king of Israel”,“and thousands of horsemen”,“their land”.

What next shroud of turin? Half Wit screws up again with his linkless spam.
http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q9_historica...

"There is little proof of the use of slaves in Egypt or of the Exodus, of the conquering of the Canaanites by the Israelites or (prior to 1993) of King David’s reign. But absence of proof is not proof of absence. It only takes one find to change that picture.

For example, until 1993 there was no proof of the existence of King David or even of Israel as a nation prior to Solomon. Then in 1993 archeologists found proof of King David's existence outside the Bible. At an ancient mound called Tel Dan, in the north of Israel, words carved into a chunk of basalt were translated as "House of David" and "King of Israel" proving that he was more than just a legend.

Then in 2005 Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar found King David's palace relying on the Bible as one of her many tools. She says,“What is amazing about the Bible is that very often we see that it is very accurate and sometimes amazingly accurate.”(from Using the Bible As Her Guide http://www.thetrumpet.com/... accessed March 1, 2011 )

In 1990 Frank Yurco, an Egyptologist at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, used hieroglyphic clues from a monolith known as the Merneptah Stele to identify figures in a Luxor wall relief as ancient Israelites. The stele itself, dated to 1207 B.C. celebrates a military victory by the Pharaoh Merneptah.“Israel is laid waste” it reads. This lets us know the Israelites were a separate people more than 3,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele )

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#6262 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So.
Just a statement.

So you admit that you cannot defend your position with any proof?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#6263 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"None of the stories in the bible have any evidence to support them besides the existence of a geological location."
When I debunk this then you are completely debunked.
You use words like "None" and 100%
That leaves you no room to back peddle. You atheist make this way to easy!
"Until very recently, there was no evidence outside the Bible for the existence of King David. There are no references to him in Egyptian, Syrian or Assyrian documents of the time, and the many archaeological digs in the City of David failed to turn up so much as a mention of his name. Then, on July 21, 1993, a team of archaeologists led by Prof. Avraham Biran, excavating Tel Dan in the northern Galilee, found a triangular piece of basalt rock, measuring 23 x 36 cm. inscribed in Aramaic. It was subsequently identified as part of a victory pillar erected by the king of Syria and later smashed by an Israelite ruler. The inscription, which dates to the ninth century BC, that is to say, about a century after David was thought to have ruled Israel, includes the words Beit David ("House" or "Dynasty" of David"). It is the first near-contemporaneous reference to David ever found. It is conclusive; it does strongly indicate that a king called David established a dynasty in Israel during the relevant period as stated in the Bible.
I looked for this and found...
"It is the first near-contemporaneous reference to David ever found. It is NOT conclusive; BUT it does strongly indicate that a king called David established a dynasty in Israel during the relevant period."

The emphasis is mine, but I wanted to point it out.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H...

Where did you get your quote from?

This source also says:
"The Bible is not - and was never intended to be - a historical document."

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#6264 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"It says plants were growing before there was a sun."
So? They were growing before there was a Sun but not before there was light.
Again, showing that the story is just a myth. Light for plants to grow, in fact, day and night, before there wasn't a sun. Absurd.
Langoliers wrote:
<
The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The First Book of Moses, Called
Genesis
1
The Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: 2 Cor. 4.6 and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
"10K species of birds"
The Bible uses the word "Kind" not species. All Ducks would be one "kind" even though there are many Duck species.
Try educating yourself on the Bible before you choose to hate it.
"Kind" isn't a species? Then where did all the species come from after the flood? Did they evolve?

Since: Apr 12

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#6265 Feb 23, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>Just a statement.

So you admit that you cannot defend your position with any proof?
So what?

I've only said that a thousand times.

Faith:

faith\ˈfāth\
noun
1 : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust

Just like atheism! No proof of no God or gods.

Since: Apr 12

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#6266 Feb 23, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>Again, showing that the story is just a myth. Light for plants to grow, in fact, day and night, before there wasn't a sun. Absurd.

Langoliers wrote, "<
The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The First Book of Moses, Called
Genesis
1
The Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: 2 Cor. 4.6 and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
"10K species of birds"
The Bible uses the word "Kind" not species. All Ducks would be one "kind" even though there are many Duck species.
Try educating yourself on the Bible before you choose to hate it. "

"Kind" isn't a species? Then where did all the species come from after the flood? Did they evolve?
You'll be able to bring up your frustration with the creator one day

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#6267 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So what?
I've only said that a thousand times.
Faith:
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
1 : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
Just like atheism! No proof of no God or gods.
I can respect that, but not believing in something is not based in faith it is based in non-belief.

At least you are honest with yourself.

Since: Apr 12

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#6268 Feb 23, 2013
You know what's really funny?

Because God and Heaven and Hell all exist outside of time. No past, present or future. That means all these atheist are already in Hell. And the Theist are seating in heaven right now.

Since: Apr 12

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#6269 Feb 23, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>I can respect that, but not believing in something is not based in faith it is based in non-belief.

At least you are honest with yourself.
Very true agnostic are like that, but not atheist.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#6270 Feb 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
You know what's really funny?
Because God and Heaven and Hell all exist outside of time. No past, present or future. That means all these atheist are already in Hell. And the Theist are seating in heaven right now.
If there is no time for God, Heaven or Hell, then they can't exist, that requires time.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#6271 Feb 23, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is no time for God, Heaven or Hell, then they can't exist, that requires time.
time
/t&#299;m/
Noun
The indefinite continued progress of existence and events in the past, present, and future regarded as a whole.

Did you catch that? Bet not, here let me emphasize for you;

THE INDEFINITE CONTINUED PROGRESS OF EXISTENCE ....

Get it? Bet not!!

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#6272 Feb 23, 2013
Your shroud of Turin style fantasy has already been soundly debunked. Sorry the bible is a myth.

Even if a King David was found it doesn't prove it was the bible one nor does it prove any of the miracles in the bible. Spider-Man met Obama who is real but that doesn't mean there really is a Spider-Man fighting Venom in NYC.

Your faith is built on a hallow lie.
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q9_historica...
"There is little proof of the use of slaves in Egypt or of the Exodus, of the conquering of the Canaanites by the Israelites or (prior to 1993) of King David’s reign. But absence of proof is not proof of absence. It only takes one find to change that picture.
For example, until 1993 there was no proof of the existence of King David or even of Israel as a nation prior to Solomon. Then in 1993 archeologists found proof of King David's existence outside the Bible. At an ancient mound called Tel Dan, in the north of Israel, words carved into a chunk of basalt were translated as "House of David" and "King of Israel" proving that he was more than just a legend.
Then in 2005 Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar found King David's palace relying on the Bible as one of her many tools. She says,“What is amazing about the Bible is that very often we see that it is very accurate and sometimes amazingly accurate.”(from Using the Bible As Her Guide http://www.thetrumpet.com/... accessed March 1, 2011 )
In 1990 Frank Yurco, an Egyptologist at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, used hieroglyphic clues from a monolith known as the Merneptah Stele to identify figures in a Luxor wall relief as ancient Israelites. The stele itself, dated to 1207 B.C. celebrates a military victory by the Pharaoh Merneptah.“Israel is laid waste” it reads. This lets us know the Israelites were a separate people more than 3,000 years ago."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele )

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#6273 Feb 23, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>If there is no time for God, Heaven or Hell, then they can't exist, that requires time.
Nice closed mind!

They do not exist in this universe and are not held to this universes laws of physics.

Since: Apr 12

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#6274 Feb 23, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>time
/t&#299;m/
Noun
The indefinite continued progress of existence and events in the past, present, and future regarded as a whole.

Did you catch that? Bet not, here let me emphasize for you;

THE INDEFINITE CONTINUED PROGRESS OF EXISTENCE ....

Get it? Bet not!!
How dumb can one be? You are
Just plain Stupid.

You're going to try and hold God to a dictionary definition of the word "time" in a sad attempt to counter the definition of the word you use to describe your religion.

LMAO.

What a Dolt!

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