Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,477

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

Since: Mar 11

United States

#5662 Feb 14, 2013
We have observable proof for Gabon but no for your Allah. I see genital mutilation when you were 10 killed many brain cells.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would I say that?
A comparison....
There is a country called Gabon in Africa.
Ive never been there, nor do I know anyone whos been there, nor have I met anyone from there. I dont know what it looks like or how its people live, but I do not doubt that it exists.
Do you?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#5663 Feb 14, 2013
Hill wrote:
1.

Well then ... we've pretty much established that the preponderance of Humanity "benefits" from the influence of one religion or another. It is from religion that we "must" derive a moral compass, else we would simply not know right from wrong. Yet, in your own words humans "kill and enslave and plan to kill and torture other humans and nations and groups which "

Religion (pick one) is the most vile, most destructive, most counter-productive construct of the Human mind ... ever. Even so, you people, you Religionists wave your holy books, feebly thump your empty chests, pat each other on the back and support each others delusions and for what?
Ans.

01. You are wrong, religions have not failed us, it is the people who misused religions to further their own interests.

I doubt if any religions wants its follower to exploit wealth and manpower of other nations “just to enjoy the fruits of life”.

What are religions but a set of beliefs and laws and directions as to how to fulfill your duties.

If its followers do not adhere to these laws, will it be fault of religions or people?

There are religions who have some thing wrong in their teachings itself (like the concept of Trinity, Divinity of Jesus and his dieing for the sins of humanity etc in Christianity), but if you look closely you will find that it is also the handiwork of the followers and not their prophets.

02. You “ferocious criticism” of all religions in those “venom filled” words speak of unbalanced nature and using emotions in place of reason and logic.

Anyone can used these words for any idea one does not like and pen down similar “high charged” words of criticism.

03. So the reality is that some followers of religion misuse their power and authority and use the name of religions to justify their own basic desires.

It is just like those “Social Democratic Republics” that are usually under the firm control of Dictators and Generals and have nothing to do with these words.

So if some one says that Socialism, Democracy and Republic teach Dictatorship, then whose fault is shall be?

The best way is to point out at the teachings of religions and check and verify which are right and reasonable and practicable.

You cannot sweep all religions and their teachings with one broom.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#5665 Feb 14, 2013
11. Teachings of Islam are based on Revelation from God and sayings and action of Prophet of God and no one has any higher authority than these.

12.Then Islam was established on firm footing during the life time of prophet itself and he left more than one hundred thousands of his dedicated followers who did not change the message after the prophet left the world.

13.The scriptures of Islam called Quran is fully preserved and kept in its original state and original language. In the same way, sayings of prophet and his biography is fully preserved and protected, which no other religion can match.

14. In Islam there is no “hierarchical priesthood” there are no Popes or Archbishops in Islam, who have “divine power” of interpretation Scriptures.

15. In Islam the rewards are based on how much every individual makes efforts for his salvation. There is no “savior” except God who can forgive their sins.

And there never was a time, when there was any restriction on acquiring knowledge in Islam.

16. That is why we saw that at the height of Islam coincided with Muslims being at the pinnacle of world, while in the case of Christianity it is reverse.

Now you can see, how much Islam and Christianity is different from each other. I cannot put all the details in one post, so I would request you to change your attitude and get rid of “all religions are just same” and “one you study one, you have studied them all” sort of attitude.

If you are sincere, you might find the true path.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#5666 Feb 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. You are wrong, religions have not failed us, it is the people who misused religions to further their own interests.
I doubt if any religions wants its follower to exploit wealth and manpower of other nations “just to enjoy the fruits of life”.
What are religions but a set of beliefs and laws and directions as to how to fulfill your duties.
If its followers do not adhere to these laws, will it be fault of religions or people?
There are religions who have some thing wrong in their teachings itself (like the concept of Trinity, Divinity of Jesus and his dieing for the sins of humanity etc in Christianity), but if you look closely you will find that it is also the handiwork of the followers and not their prophets.
02. You “ferocious criticism” of all religions in those “venom filled” words speak of unbalanced nature and using emotions in place of reason and logic.
Anyone can used these words for any idea one does not like and pen down similar “high charged” words of criticism.
03. So the reality is that some followers of religion misuse their power and authority and use the name of religions to justify their own basic desires.
It is just like those “Social Democratic Republics” that are usually under the firm control of Dictators and Generals and have nothing to do with these words.
So if some one says that Socialism, Democracy and Republic teach Dictatorship, then whose fault is shall be?
The best way is to point out at the teachings of religions and check and verify which are right and reasonable and practicable.
You cannot sweep all religions and their teachings with one broom.
So, if the religion is "straight from God", how can it be misused by mere mortals? God didn't see the distortions coming and could do nothing to prevent it? That would mean he can't be God, right?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#5667 Feb 14, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
A being that humans cannot fully know or define but is knowable and identified as a persona.
eg. Jehovah or satan
Here you say that Satan is theistic being.

You also said that the Church of Satan do not recognise a theistic being.
Siro wrote:
Indeed it is, the church of satan is 100% atheist.

It does not recognise any theistic being ....
In other words, you appear to be saying that Satan is not a theistic being.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#5668 Feb 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Religion is not the “only” thing that prevents humans from turning into beasts, but it has a very strong “restraining power” if some one wants to turn into beast.
It is religion which gives you hope and stability and some thing to lean on, when the goings get tough. Atheists have no support and would “just end their lives with suicide when the goings get tough”. What else they have to lean on?
It's 'religion" that tells you it's "acceptable" to strap explosives to your body and detonate yourself in a crowded market! Commiting suicide and taking multiple innocent lives with you is strictly a religious thing.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#5669 Feb 14, 2013
Allah commands this. If god exists and cares how could people misuse religion? Why wouldn't he quickly step in and correct it?

It's almost as if the whole thing was made up an people do with it as they wish.
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>It's 'religion" that tells you it's "acceptable" to strap explosives to your body and detonate yourself in a crowded market! Commiting suicide and taking multiple innocent lives with you is strictly a religious thing.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#5670 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Allah commands this. If god exists and cares how could people misuse religion? Why wouldn't he quickly step in and correct it?
It's almost as if the whole thing was made up an people do with it as they wish.
<quoted text>
Nooooo!? Say it ain't so! That would mean religion is nothing but fantasy... and anything based on it would also be fantasy... and anything based on fantasy and claimed as "truth" would be dishonest at best! It's almost like the religious leader are playing their members for fools! naaa... that could never happen in THIS day and age! Right? LOL!!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#5671 Feb 14, 2013
Zeus forbid!
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Nooooo!? Say it ain't so! That would mean religion is nothing but fantasy... and anything based on it would also be fantasy... and anything based on fantasy and claimed as "truth" would be dishonest at best! It's almost like the religious leader are playing their members for fools! naaa... that could never happen in THIS day and age! Right? LOL!!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#5672 Feb 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why didn't you just say "fictional", then?
<quoted text>
Ouch!
We really need a "slam dunk" judge-it icon.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#5673 Feb 14, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Those institutions are created to help religion implant (infiltrate?) itself within a society. They do "good", true enough, but only by virtue of the qualities of the people working within them. Humans are, by nature, compassionate and altruistic....
Why do these fairy tales exist in the first place?
Certainly schools, run by a church, are ill-disguised religious indoctrination centers.
Secular schools also indoctrinate.
Hospitals and relief organizations use their religious affiliations to....
So close'em all down. It they have no virtue, are simply "con" centers of big business, no need for them to exist, now is there.

To Bind Up the Wounds: Catholic Sister Nurses in the U.S. Civil War

Sister Mary Denis Maher. To Bind Up the Wounds: Catholic Sister Nurses in the U.S. Civil War. Reprint. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1999.

The Civil War broke upon the American scene with a ferocity not witnessed in previous wars. The sheer number and severity of casualties overwhelmed the unprepared Union and Confederate medical services. Each side desperately sought to meet the need for hospitals, trained surgeons, medical supplies, and nurses, with varying degrees of success. Both sides employed the services of six hundred nuns from twelve different orders and twenty-one separate religious communities throughout the Union and Confederate territories. Despite a general lack of primary source material, Sister Mary Denis Maher presents compelling evidence that the Catholic nuns were the most qualified nurses available. She points out that the tasks of sisters in mid-nineteenth-century America were "teaching, caring for orphans, nursing the sick and providing spiritual assistance for the dying" (p. 2).

Historically, European orders had been involved in nursing for several hundred years. In the United States, beginning in the early 1800s, orders such as the Sisters of Charity (which provided the largest number of nursing nuns) had been founded primarily, but not solely, as nursing orders. The Sisters of Charity had had prior experience in establishing and administrating cholera hospitals in the epidemics of 1828, 1832, and 1848. They also administered the Baltimore Clinic, the forerunner of the University of Maryland Medical School and Hospital. Other orders had established hospitals (e.g., St. Vincent's Hospital in New York City, 1836).

The Catholic nuns, unlike Protestant women nurses, had already "lived in an organized and structured form of benevolent missionary association" (p. 21). They were also accustomed to a sparse lifestyle that allowed them to readily develop the flexibility to cope with the chaotic situations accompanying war. These attributes, when added to their nursing skills, made them superior. In general, Union and Confederate physicians praised them warmly and actively sought their services. Amazingly, there were instances when they had "immunity of the Cloth," able to freely cross the lines to serve the wounded.

The contributions of Catholic nuns to the nursing in the Civil War have been largely forgotten. These women set a high standard for the fledgling profession, and gained the respect of physicians and patients -- yet the knowledge of their accomplishments faded with the passing of time. The nuns were not self-seeking and generally did not record their experiences. What little primary source material there was has not, unfortunately, been preserved.

In the final analysis, the contributions of the nursing nuns, like those of "the buffalo soldiers" on the western frontier, had to await the arrival of a time in our history relatively unclouded by the prejudices of the past. This is an American story of a group of remarkable women who helped bring order to chaos, providing kindness, humanity, and nursing skills to many Union and Confederate soldiers who, without their presence, would not have survived.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#5674 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Your imaginary friend doesn't count.
<quoted text>
Nor does your inflatable girl! Where's Brady? Awwww...ya went and took down his picture.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#5675 Feb 14, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>And even then, there is no evidence of his existence.
Conveniently, there is never evidence to support the bible's *stories.*
Because that's all they are; stories.
There is no evidence of your existence.
You are nothing more then words in cyber space.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#5676 Feb 14, 2013
Siro wrote:
Indeed it is, the church of satan is 100% atheist.
It does not recognise any theistic being and operates on the 'if it feels good then do it' mantra like the atheist scumbags on this site
If one doesn't believe in a magical fairy in the sky named god, then one doesn't believe in it's children named angels.
Ergo one does not believe in satan since according to your fairy tales, he is a fallen angel.

Therefore satanism has nothing to do with atheism.

You religious nuts have nothing better to do than to deny reality and fact.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#5677 Feb 14, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I say that?

A comparison....
There is a country called Gabon in Africa.
Ive never been there, nor do I know anyone whos been there, nor have I met anyone from there. I dont know what it looks like or how its people live, but I do not doubt that it exists.
Do you?
The only difference between that and your fairy tales is that there is EVIDENCE of a place's existence.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#5678 Feb 14, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>There is no evidence of your existence.
You are nothing more then words in cyber space.
The fact that you're reading what I write is evidence that I exist.

Otherwise you're just talking to yourself and you're just crazier than originally thought.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#5679 Feb 14, 2013
Lacez wrote:
The only difference between that and your fairy tales is that there is EVIDENCE of a place's existence.

Jesus? He's no myth rather recorded historic fact. Get over it. Your caveman? Not so much.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#5680 Feb 14, 2013

Islam Will Conquer Italy and the Entire West

CAIRO, EGYPT – The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has released excerpts from a transcript of a televised sermon by Egyptian cleric Salem Abu Al-Futuh. Airing on Al-Nas TV on August 18, Al-Futuh's predicted that Islam would conquer the entire West, starting with Italy and ending with the Americas.
www.worthynews.com/9243-islam-will-conquer-it...


Moscow - Europe's Muslim Capital

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socci

Plattsburg, MO

#5681 Feb 14, 2013
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#5682 Feb 14, 2013

CBN Special Report: Islamization of France

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