How to Cast a Spell

May 11, 2008 | Posted by: WiccaNews | Full story: www.buzzle.com

Contrary to many people's beliefs, spell casting is not strictly for witches with broomsticks and sorcerers with magical potions.

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Ivy

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"If the spell calls for the task to be performed at night on a full moon, make sure you do it at night on a full moon as this is the specific required energy for that particular spell. And, if the spell requires that you be outside, then be outside. Some require to be cast in a wooded area at dawn or in the evening; if this is not a possibility, then your backyard is acceptable. The key is to follow the recipes as closely as you can. "

While I'm a big fan of doing research- I believe that the energy in creating and attuning to the spell contributes to its overall success- I don't think that you can really say that spells 'require' anything. I think that perhaps the full moon energy could be a specific preferred energy for a spell, but you aren't going to combust if you don't cast it on the full moon. There is a lot of trepidation, even within the Witchcraft community when it comes to doing spells. There are many witches that I know that don't spellcast, because they are anxious about doing it wrong. I feel that spreading this misinformation isn't going to help the fledgeling witches who really are serious about their craft, but instead, it will aid those who aren't serious at all, those who will feel that all they have to do is follow the recipe exactly and poof! Their dreams will come true.

Also, the author is an 'authority on wicca (sic) and pagan (sic) culture and tradition." I'd be interested to know what makes her an authority at all? The fact that she provides content for "Free Love Spells and Information?"

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I am generally suspicious of those who offer "free love spells" It just feels like they are trying to attract the desperate. I could be wrong, but it seems like the whole free love spells bit is the magickal version of a corny dateing site.

I'm not saying that pagans who caste spells to attract love are desperate, but I am saying that people who are not pagan and only caste love spells, especially those with a particular person in mind, are stepping outside of their own belief system out of desperation. I think that if you are not interested in anything spiritual regarding paganism, then you ought not dabble in it just because you can't find Mr. or Miss. Right. Magick is not a toy, its serious and shouldn't be approached without the respect it deserves, otherwise it is dangerous. Just like goofy teens playing with a ouija board, it can get out of control. Or it can give a person a false sense of control.

I will give you a real life example. I knew a girl when I was a teen who had a crush on a young man who wouldn't have given her the time of day. She didn't know much about magick but she cobbled together a love spell from a magazine that supposedly would make this boy love her forever. A while later she was at a party and he was there, he danced with me and a couple other girls and we noticed he was acting like he might have used some drugs, so we warned our friend to stay away from him. But she felt that he was acting funny because of her spell, and honestly she through herself at him. Of course he thought that was great (teenage boys are loaded weapons). Needless to say she woke up in the morning minus her virginity and plus a baby. He hit the road quick, never would have a thing to do with her again. She was 15 and devestated.

To this day I think she would have listened to us if she hadn't caste that stupid "love spell". It allowed her to convince herself she could get a guy who didn't want her. You can say she ran into the law of three, she tried to minipulate the free will of another person and it blew up in her face.

So if you are a teenage girl (or boy) and your cruising this forum, do not click on a link to some "love spell site" Do not dabble in magick with out your parents consent. If you think you might want to be a wiccan, wait until you are older and if you are still interested then spend alot of time learning about wicca before you try any spells. And never try to manipulate another human being, that is against the wiccan reed.

How did I end up on the soapbox twice in one day, sheesh.

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May 13, 2008
 
Tailkinker wrote:
I am generally suspicious of those who offer "free love spells" It just feels like they are trying to attract the desperate. I could be wrong, but it seems like the whole free love spells bit is the magickal version of a corny dateing site.
I'm not saying that pagans who caste spells to attract love are desperate, but I am saying that people who are not pagan and only caste love spells, especially those with a particular person in mind, are stepping outside of their own belief system out of desperation. I think that if you are not interested in anything spiritual regarding paganism, then you ought not dabble in it just because you can't find Mr. or Miss. Right. Magick is not a toy, its serious and shouldn't be approached without the respect it deserves, otherwise it is dangerous. Just like goofy teens playing with a ouija board, it can get out of control. Or it can give a person a false sense of control.
I will give you a real life example. I knew a girl when I was a teen who had a crush on a young man who wouldn't have given her the time of day. She didn't know much about magick but she cobbled together a love spell from a magazine that supposedly would make this boy love her forever. A while later she was at a party and he was there, he danced with me and a couple other girls and we noticed he was acting like he might have used some drugs, so we warned our friend to stay away from him. But she felt that he was acting funny because of her spell, and honestly she through herself at him. Of course he thought that was great (teenage boys are loaded weapons). Needless to say she woke up in the morning minus her virginity and plus a baby. He hit the road quick, never would have a thing to do with her again. She was 15 and devestated.
To this day I think she would have listened to us if she hadn't caste that stupid "love spell". It allowed her to convince herself she could get a guy who didn't want her. You can say she ran into the law of three, she tried to minipulate the free will of another person and it blew up in her face.
So if you are a teenage girl (or boy) and your cruising this forum, do not click on a link to some "love spell site" Do not dabble in magick with out your parents consent. If you think you might want to be a wiccan, wait until you are older and if you are still interested then spend alot of time learning about wicca before you try any spells. And never try to manipulate another human being, that is against the wiccan reed.
How did I end up on the soapbox twice in one day, sheesh.
Sometimes you find the soapbox. Sometimes it falls from the sky and bludgeons you in the head

Honestly the do-it-yourself spellbook writers really get at me. I think the ultimate victim in this whole affair is the bookshelves which have been so diluted with their pandering that it's hard to find any actual information worth building a faith on. If you want to cast a spell without any of the trappings of faith, join the OTO or Thelemites. Of course, they won't be too keen on having a newbie tossing spells around either.

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Honestly the do-it-yourself spellbook writers really get at me. I think the ultimate victim in this whole affair is the bookshelves which have been so diluted with their pandering that it's hard to find any actual information worth building a faith on. If you want to cast a spell without any of the trappings of faith, join the OTO or Thelemites. Of course, they won't be too keen on having a newbie tossing spells around either.
Even those ritual magician people, who practise magick without any spirituality appreciate the importance of knowing what you are doing. I do worry about some of the teens that I run into occasionally on Topix. They generally appear to be interested in magick because they want a sense of control, or they are rebelling against their parents or just the world in general. Alot of those sites that advertise love spells or whatever are preying on them. Trying to sell them something, or get their e-mails so they can spam them for products. Its important that we intervene where we can. For their sake, and for the sake of the reputation of the pagan community. I saw what happened to that young lady, she kept the baby and eventually became a stripper to provide for him. It ruined her life. It wasn't the only cause of her downfall, she had family problems too, but it was deffinatly part of the problem.
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The only spells that work in english are shadowmagic and healing or cursing. I prefer the dead language of Cuspilla, but my husband is the only one that speaks it. So I write down whatever spells he has, and I cast my magic that way. Most of my spells consist of weather changing, very few summoning spells, and my favorite is cursing. Those that threaten me struck first.
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I hope that someday there will be an advancement, where humans wont need vocal spells, just meditate on a thought, but that seems a bit hard on this planet.
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May 14, 2008
 
Oh and its always good to use a salt circle, no matter what spell you do.

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ninetailedfox wrote:
The only spells that work in english are shadowmagic and healing or cursing. I prefer the dead language of Cuspilla, but my husband is the only one that speaks it. So I write down whatever spells he has, and I cast my magic that way. Most of my spells consist of weather changing, very few summoning spells, and my favorite is cursing. Those that threaten me struck first.
Got any kind of reference on that language? I can't seem to find it in any kind of search anywhere. Ethnologue doesn't even have it.

I can't say I've met anyone who practices the way that you do. Got a name for your practice?

It just seems a little suspect. All this talk of your favorite kinds of spells and dead languages only one person speaks sounds more like something off of 'Charmed' than real life.
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ninetailedfox, how can cursing sombody be in any way something to brag about.

It pretty much violates every aspect of wicca/paganism. Revenge doesnt seem to be any form of excuse either.

The pomposity of people like yourself really does give us all a bad name. Spellcasting works only as a form of self-empowerment and is fine whatever language you use.

Again (as has previously been touched on by Ivy) the use of bizaare teminology, references to "dead languages" does nothing except create an atmosphere of a teenage girls cult that is exclusive and deters people from exploring their spirituality further.
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ninetailedfox, how can cursing sombody be in any way something to brag about.
It pretty much violates every aspect of wicca/paganism. Revenge doesnt seem to be any form of excuse either.
The pomposity of people like yourself really does give us all a bad name. Spellcasting works only as a form of self-empowerment and is fine whatever language you use.
Again (as has previously been touched on by Ivy) the use of bizaare teminology, references to "dead languages" does nothing except create an atmosphere of a teenage girls cult that is exclusive and deters people from exploring their spirituality further.
I dont need some peacenik human to tell me how to do a spell. Watch it!
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I hope youre aware of the Otherkin walking around this planet, im guessing you are not.
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Oh and in case you werent paying attention, i wait for someone to strike at me before i strike at them. I dont sit back and take stuff like that. My husband was the highpriest of a coven before he became a solitary Pagan.

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I hope you have something better than bad linguistics to back the existence of your otherkin.

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Ivy wrote:
"If the spell calls for the task to be performed at night on a full moon, make sure you do it at night on a full moon as this is the specific required energy for that particular spell. And, if the spell requires that you be outside, then be outside. Some require to be cast in a wooded area at dawn or in the evening; if this is not a possibility, then your backyard is acceptable. The key is to follow the recipes as closely as you can. "
While I'm a big fan of doing research- I believe that the energy in creating and attuning to the spell contributes to its overall success- I don't think that you can really say that spells 'require' anything. I think that perhaps the full moon energy could be a specific preferred energy for a spell, but you aren't going to combust if you don't cast it on the full moon. There is a lot of trepidation, even within the Witchcraft community when it comes to doing spells. There are many witches that I know that don't spellcast, because they are anxious about doing it wrong. I feel that spreading this misinformation isn't going to help the fledgeling witches who really are serious about their craft, but instead, it will aid those who aren't serious at all, those who will feel that all they have to do is follow the recipe exactly and poof! Their dreams will come true.
Also, the author is an 'authority on wicca (sic) and pagan (sic) culture and tradition." I'd be interested to know what makes her an authority at all? The fact that she provides content for "Free Love Spells and Information?"
Are you really sure these spells work and are not part of selective interpretation of the results or wishful thinking? I am open minded but also critical.

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Are you really sure these spells work and are not part of selective interpretation of the results or wishful thinking? I am open minded but also critical.
We believe they work. If nothing else they are channeling of will toward a goal. Focusing intent on a goal through structured ceremony is very common in self-help books and actually has a good rate of success. So essentially, no, we don't have any specific studies showing that it is more effective than an empowerment mantra, but we don't particularly need it either.

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We believe they work. If nothing else they are channeling of will toward a goal. Focusing intent on a goal through structured ceremony is very common in self-help books and actually has a good rate of success. So essentially, no, we don't have any specific studies showing that it is more effective than an empowerment mantra, but we don't particularly need it either.
Are the particulars of the ceremony essential. Does it have to be precise words or gestures? And what are the limits as far as what one should attempt?
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Garrig, the words and gestures are not all-important. They just help you focus and enter a trance.
Im a wiccan, but also a scientist. They are not mutually exclusive. science is on the verge of discovering energies and dimensions (loop dimensions, string theory, it all feeds into my beliefe). Its these energies i believe are maleable and can be 'persuaded'.

and ninetailed fox, if your husband was a 'head' of a coven, he should be the first to tell you that:
A) such titles are completley irrelevent in his faith. Mantles & titles are nothing more than administration tools to 'get stuff done'. Most covens rotate leadership.
B) revenge is no reason to break the wiccan code.

The internet should be praised for bringing pagans from all walks of life together again after centuries of hiding, but otherkin and the like seem to be doing their level best (along with teenage girls with romantic, gothic fantasies) to make us a laughing stock.

sorry if i double posted but i posted a similar reply ages ago and it hasnt come up yet.
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Garrig, the words and gestures are not all-important. They just help you focus and enter a trance.
Im a wiccan, but also a scientist. They are not mutually exclusive. science is on the verge of discovering energies and dimensions (loop dimensions, string theory, it all feeds into my beliefe). Its these energies i believe are maleable and can be 'persuaded'.
and ninetailed fox, if your husband was a 'head' of a coven, he should be the first to tell you that:
A) such titles are completley irrelevent in his faith. Mantles & titles are nothing more than administration tools to 'get stuff done'. Most covens rotate leadership.
B) revenge is no reason to break the wiccan code.
The internet should be praised for bringing pagans from all walks of life together again after centuries of hiding, but otherkin and the like seem to be doing their level best (along with teenage girls with romantic, gothic fantasies) to make us a laughing stock.
sorry if i double posted but i posted a similar reply ages ago and it hasnt come up yet.
Hes not wiccan, i think thats the point i should make. Wicca to him is a bunch of fluff heads that dont exactly get it.
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super-pete wrote:
Garrig, the words and gestures are not all-important. They just help you focus and enter a trance.
Im a wiccan, but also a scientist. They are not mutually exclusive. science is on the verge of discovering energies and dimensions (loop dimensions, string theory, it all feeds into my beliefe). Its these energies i believe are maleable and can be 'persuaded'.
and ninetailed fox, if your husband was a 'head' of a coven, he should be the first to tell you that:
A) such titles are completley irrelevent in his faith. Mantles & titles are nothing more than administration tools to 'get stuff done'. Most covens rotate leadership.
B) revenge is no reason to break the wiccan code.
The internet should be praised for bringing pagans from all walks of life together again after centuries of hiding, but otherkin and the like seem to be doing their level best (along with teenage girls with romantic, gothic fantasies) to make us a laughing stock.
sorry if i double posted but i posted a similar reply ages ago and it hasnt come up yet.
sorry to say i am not a wiccan or a pagan and i dont believe in covens its just a waste of time. the idea that magic is some how useable in any of the "modern" laungages is a joke since real magic dates back to the first 7 laungages of the planet and can not be used otherwise. i am also a self proclaimed god who walks the path of nature and of the gods them selves. i am not of any label other than a spiritualist which shows me that all life is connected to each other thru a being that is called a creator being it has no sex no name or face. i am also of the dragons of ancient times. i do not feel that a pagan or a wiccan of any sort should allow some one to walk all over them it is better to stand and fight than die laying down. even i have reasons for justice not venegence. justice is served when those who can stand up agianst the injustice of others.
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May 15, 2008
 
i beg your pardon ninetailedfox. I read in another reply of yours that your not wiccan, so i got off on the wrong assumption and thought you were a hypocrite. I was wrong.

I still dont like your belief but im not about to preach to you about mine.

I have to be honest though, any religion uncompatable with science makes my skin crawl. Even "world religions" as they like to call themselves can marry into basic physics.

without wanting to get into any kind of battle with you 2 (especially "god") your beliefs amount to nothing other than a conspiracy theory.

In fact, again ninetailedfox, i apologise. You havent actually outlined your beliefs so that last remark is not directed at you.

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