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adoniadabrianene t

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yes they can. i was raised catholic and have checked and have studied all kinds of religions, and found that wicca makes the most since. there all kinds of names for God and if people would realize that we all worship the same God regardless of His name the wars would cease to exist. i am wiccan and God is love ineveryone and everything.

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Feb 3, 2010
 
adoniadabrianenet wrote:
yes they can. i was raised catholic and have checked and have studied all kinds of religions, and found that wicca makes the most since. there all kinds of names for God and if people would realize that we all worship the same God regardless of His name the wars would cease to exist. i am wiccan and God is love ineveryone and everything.
"wicca makes the most since" since what?
Since (that word again)has everyone believing in the same god stopped wars? History is littered with wars and battles between factions who believed in the same god (even today worshippers of allah are busy blowing each other up).
And just for the record I dont believe in god!

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(Sittin' here, scratchin' m'head in puzzlement) Why would a pagan *want* to be a christian?
adoniadabrianene t

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TO THOSE THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD. WELL YOU MUST NOT HAVE A BLESSED LIFE. DO YOU BELIEV IN ANYTHING? WELL ANY WAY YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOU CROSS OVER. SORRY FOR YOU, BUT GOD WAITS FOR YOU ON THE SIDE. WHY WOULD I WANT TO BE CHRISTIAN? BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN CHRIST. THAT IS MY BELIEF ALLOWED TO HAVE IT. BLESSED BE

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albion wrote:
<quoted text>"wicca makes the most since" since what?
Since (that word again)has everyone believing in the same god stopped wars? History is littered with wars and battles between factions who believed in the same god (even today worshippers of allah are busy blowing each other up).
And just for the record I dont believe in god!
Besides which, the God written about in the Bible is not a very nice God.

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adoniadabrianenet wrote:
yes they can. i was raised catholic and have checked and have studied all kinds of religions, and found that wicca makes the most since. there all kinds of names for God and if people would realize that we all worship the same God regardless of His name the wars would cease to exist. i am wiccan and God is love ineveryone and everything.
Here are a few:
Numbers: Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow![Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins.(31:28-29)] 31:1-54 28-29

Leviticus: God describes torments that he has planned for those who displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it", "I will send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children", and "ye shall eat the flesh of your sons .. daughters." 26:16-39

Exodus: 38. "The Lord is a man of war." Indeed, judging from his acts in the Old Testament, he is a vicious warlike monster. 15:3

Genesis: God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24

God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

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Feb 3, 2010
 
There are many who have blended elements of both Paganism and Christianity, and created a fulfilling spiritual path for themselves.

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Feb 3, 2010
 
It depends I guess. The bible doesn't treat pagans kindly, nor does witchcraft appear as it is. There is nothing wrong with Christians, but I couldn't be both. I converted from Christianity about five years ago. I was an atheist untill I discovered Wicca online. So, for about two years now, I've been a Wiccan.

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Feb 3, 2010
 
Raito9 wrote:
It depends I guess. The bible doesn't treat pagans kindly, nor does witchcraft appear as it is. There is nothing wrong with Christians, but I couldn't be both. I converted from Christianity about five years ago. I was an atheist untill I discovered Wicca online. So, for about two years now, I've been a Wiccan.
I would be interested to know how you found this path. In my case I experimented with many beliefs until I found a book titled Wicca: A Guide For The Solitary Practitioner by Scott Cunningham. That was the beginning. I continued to study and evolve. I no longer consider myself Wiccan but I have a strong foundation in the belief system.

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NM Desert Rat wrote:
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I would be interested to know how you found this path. In my case I experimented with many beliefs until I found a book titled Wicca: A Guide For The Solitary Practitioner by Scott Cunningham. That was the beginning. I continued to study and evolve. I no longer consider myself Wiccan but I have a strong foundation in the belief system.
Oh! I have that book!:)

Actually, I was born into a Christian family. I was a regular church goer and everything. But, when I got older I began to wonder why the bible excluded someone.

Oneday in Sunday school, when I was 12, we happened upon the topic of gay marriage. My teacher said it was wrong, and I disagreed. I feel love knows no age or gender. I couldn't understand why god (i never really believed in him when I was young either) would be so discriminating.

After a few more weeks of disagreement on other subjects, my pastor finally told me that I had no place in church if I was going to argue everything in the bible. So I never went back. I was never a solid Christian anyway.

I happened upon Wicca about two years later. I was looking up buddism on the internet (I have a really huge interst in asian culture and language!:)) The site began comparing Shinto, another nature religion, to Wicca. I've always been profoundly facinated by nature. My dad nurtered this by taking me with him to his landscaping jobs. I love plants, and I was always more comfortable outside surrounded by nature.

What really got me though was that Wicca had no 'rules' about the people. ANYONE could be a Wiccan. Any race, gender, sexual orientation, it didn't matter. Everyone was equal. I really liked that. I was actually afraid at first that I would make a poor Wiccan. I am a horror/gore fan, and I want to write stories like that. I've been writing since I was in elementary. I noticed the Wiccan rede said to hurt noone. I wasn't sure if that would count against me. But, I contacted a preistess on a website and talked to her. She said it was fine, as long as I didn't really hurt anyone for real.

Satisfied, I began my new Wiccan life. After doing research about it, I actually felt somewhat fullfilled...I guess? I'm not sure how to word it.:) But, being a Wiccan wasn't without the bad side. I foolishly let slip at school my new found path and became the brunt of everyones disdain and meanness. But, during this time, I found new friends who were accepting of me. Even a few were Wiccan's too!

I admit that I follow science. It wasn't the gods who attracted me to Wicca. I don't really think of the Goddess as an actual being, but rather a connecting, personified energy. If that makes sense.

Wicca held what I already believed: all people were equal, karma, and hurt noone. You know, be kind, find peace and so on. And now here I am, a few years later.

Wow, that was kinda long! Sorry about the novel!

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Feb 4, 2010
 
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Oh! I have that book!:)
Actually, I was born into a Christian family. I was a regular church goer and everything. But, when I got older I began to wonder why the bible excluded someone.
Oneday in Sunday school, when I was 12, we happened upon the topic of gay marriage. My teacher said it was wrong, and I disagreed. I feel love knows no age or gender. I couldn't understand why god (i never really believed in him when I was young either) would be so discriminating.
After a few more weeks of disagreement on other subjects, my pastor finally told me that I had no place in church if I was going to argue everything in the bible. So I never went back. I was never a solid Christian anyway.
I happened upon Wicca about two years later. I was looking up buddism on the internet (I have a really huge interst in asian culture and language!:)) The site began comparing Shinto, another nature religion, to Wicca. I've always been profoundly facinated by nature. My dad nurtered this by taking me with him to his landscaping jobs. I love plants, and I was always more comfortable outside surrounded by nature.
What really got me though was that Wicca had no 'rules' about the people. ANYONE could be a Wiccan. Any race, gender, sexual orientation, it didn't matter. Everyone was equal. I really liked that. I was actually afraid at first that I would make a poor Wiccan. I am a horror/gore fan, and I want to write stories like that. I've been writing since I was in elementary. I noticed the Wiccan rede said to hurt noone. I wasn't sure if that would count against me. But, I contacted a preistess on a website and talked to her. She said it was fine, as long as I didn't really hurt anyone for real.
Satisfied, I began my new Wiccan life. After doing research about it, I actually felt somewhat fullfilled...I guess? I'm not sure how to word it.:) But, being a Wiccan wasn't without the bad side. I foolishly let slip at school my new found path and became the brunt of everyones disdain and meanness. But, during this time, I found new friends who were accepting of me. Even a few were Wiccan's too!
I admit that I follow science. It wasn't the gods who attracted me to Wicca. I don't really think of the Goddess as an actual being, but rather a connecting, personified energy. If that makes sense.
Wicca held what I already believed: all people were equal, karma, and hurt noone. You know, be kind, find peace and so on. And now here I am, a few years later.
Wow, that was kinda long! Sorry about the novel!
Interesting post. I asume you are still studying. What kind of books are you studying now?
adoniadabrianene t

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WOW that sounds exactly right and more. Of course I always believed the bible was created by man. In a vast of stories made up. I believe God is all loving and loves all of His souls. I believe that the bible is symbolic. For how would He except incest with adam and eve's children. My belief is they were colonies of people.
I also read that book. It was such and enlightment,I guess because it was something I liked to hear. I also love buddism, fengshui, they are definitely and enlighting people. I love nature and worship it everyday.I thank God for all my blessings all through the day. Yeah I bend His ear alot. LoL.
I also love anything horror or gory the gorrier the better. There is nothing wrong with being an individual, so as long as you are not hurting someone intentially. But I believe in reincarnation, and as scary as it seems I believe we have to live every life there is to live. I have to many de jevu's don't know if I spelled that right but do know I have lived this life before. Anyway, thanks for listening catch you all tom. Blessed Be and God Bless.

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Feb 4, 2010
 
Currently, I'm only able to study online. My local library carries no wiccan books. It's kinda sad. People destroyed them.

A good website I look at is religioustolerance.org . Very helpful!
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Can pagans be Christians? Why not? Christians do a pretty good job of being pagans. Especially when it comes to downing others and killing people.

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Feb 4, 2010
 
Raito9 wrote:
Currently, I'm only able to study online. My local library carries no wiccan books. It's kinda sad. People destroyed them.
A good website I look at is religioustolerance.org . Very helpful!
That's sad about your Library. Mine at least does have a few good books (Buckland, Cunningham etc.)
I like that website and have used it from time to time to try and explain things to the Fundies. LOL
I do like Witchvox though because at least you can locate local groups, events and even other people to communicate with.
Also Yahoo Groups has a large number of online groups.

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Feb 4, 2010
 
Raito - start here for a list of Yahoo groups:
http://www.pagan.com/Groups/index.html

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Feb 4, 2010
 
And this one is in Ohio:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paganohio/

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Feb 4, 2010
 
Thanks very much Puffin!:)(That's cute!)

I'll look when I have time to sit and research. Int he middle of a move/remodel job now, so...
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An Ex-Liberal wrote:
(Sittin' here, scratchin' m'head in puzzlement) Why would a pagan *want* to be a christian?
Perhaps because they've found corrolation and bonds between the the spirituality of a Pagan faith and teachings of Christ they were either raised to believe in or were inspired by.

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Feb 12, 2010
 
Heather wrote:
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Perhaps because they've found corrolation and bonds between the the spirituality of a Pagan faith and teachings of Christ they were either raised to believe in or were inspired by.
Interesting post. How about adding more on this topic? I would like to hear your argument.

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