'Constantine's Sword' Angers Catholics

'Constantine's Sword' Angers Catholics

There are 176 comments on the abcnews.go.com story from Apr 20, 2008, titled 'Constantine's Sword' Angers Catholics. In it, abcnews.go.com reports that:

Call it coincidence or providence. A new documentary about Christian anti-Semitism that has drawn the ire of some Catholic groups premiered Friday in New York -- the same day Pope Benedict XVI visited a synagogue on the city's Upper East Side. ...

Pope Benedict even makes an appearance in the film, when he visits a synagogue in Cologne, Germany, shortly after his installation as pope. There he condemns the Nazi genocide but characterizes it as an outgrowth of neo-paganism.

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“Judgy not lest ye be judgied!”

Since: Feb 08

Farmington, NM

#62 Apr 25, 2008
heythere wrote:
<quoted text>I know one that does. I also know someone who says he is wiccan and worship the devil and he is proud he does.
I'm sure.

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#63 Apr 25, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>I suggest you read about Catholicism before you make anymore comments. You are embarrassing yourself.
Considering all she asked was whether or not you had read the book, I believe it would be you who would be embarrassed here. If you had quoted some of her other statements this would have made sense, but your choice to quote this one was a little odd.

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#64 Apr 25, 2008
heythere wrote:
<quoted text>I know one that does. I also know someone who says he is wiccan and worship the devil and he is proud he does.
Does he say he is Wiccan or a witch? There's a big difference as many satanists call themselves witches. On the other hand I have yet to hear of any single Wiccan or pagan in general who claims to worship the christian devil aside from your friend. As such I don't know that I buy your story. Sounds like a very poor example of a wiccan if he does as the sorts of things the christian devil is typically charged with fall well outside the ideals of the Rede.

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#65 Apr 25, 2008
for your info wrote:
<quoted text>Lay people never had a say in who is going to be the Pope, the cardinals vote on who is going to be the Pope. EWTN is a good source for Catholics. And those wanting to be Catholic. The Pope now , has been on ewtn a few times and so has Pope John PaulII. The web page and tv are a great help for Catholics to get to know their religion better, the Pope has praised it, So has Pope John PaulII. Mother Angelica did us a great service, God Bless Mother Angelica! Also an encyclical is written by a Pope. Every Catholic Church in my Diasece hands out programming for ewtn.
I retract my earlier statement. The laity never had a direct vote, but for many hundreds of years could essentially veto the selection. Even when laity approval and monarch approval, as was the case for a while as well, was abolished, several conclaves were said to have decided on candidates who were often well below Cardinal under duress from a populace who demanded an Italian pope.

I consider it the mark of a well-founded faith that recognizes a system that doesn't function as it should and corrects it. This was meant more as a compliment to the church fathers who did abolish laity consent and imposed strict rulings on conclaves, than a criticism on the failings of the past.

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#66 Apr 25, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>I have read about pagans and wiccans. I know the wiccans started in the nineteen fifties, I know witchcraft and the occult go against God, I know pagans and wiccans worship many gods which are false gods. You also worship what God created but you will not worship the Creator. You worship little fairies and such which are mythical, and people say they see them but in reality they are demons. Christians are taught to stay away from such things as they are against God.
Well, based on this comment, the only thing you actually know about our faith that stands outside the teachings of the Catholic church are a bits of hearsay from friends and one piece of actual historical knowledge. Granted that one date you mentioned is wrong by a decade or two, but that's splitting hairs.

I'm glad you stick to your guns as to how your god views other deities and faiths, but I'm not sure your god would object to learning about other faiths.

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#67 Apr 25, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>Where do you get your ideas from? tv? you are naive about Catholicism.
Well, my mother, aunts, and uncles as well as my father-in-law were all the recipients of corporal punishment in Catholic school. I think that counts. They, by the way, are almost all still Catholic. I agree that many people are naive about catholicism, but I would consider comments from current Catholics to be a reliable source, wouldn't you?

“Judgy not lest ye be judgied!”

Since: Feb 08

Farmington, NM

#68 Apr 25, 2008
Aremis Asling wrote:
<quoted text>
Does he say he is Wiccan or a witch? There's a big difference as many satanists call themselves witches. On the other hand I have yet to hear of any single Wiccan or pagan in general who claims to worship the christian devil aside from your friend. As such I don't know that I buy your story. Sounds like a very poor example of a wiccan if he does as the sorts of things the christian devil is typically charged with fall well outside the ideals of the Rede.
Thank you Aremis, for saying what I was too tired and frustrated to.

“Farewell”

Since: Mar 08

GREENWOOD

#69 Apr 25, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>I do not think so, anyone can write a book, What he wrote were lies. I suggest you read about the Popes. Find the real answer , not from an athiest or new age person who is prejudesed against Christians or the Catholic Church. Harry potter is not allowed in the parochial schools here because of it does not have Chrsitian values and it talks of occultism. It is innocent in the beginning hooking children and parents but the later books are sympathetic of the occult. If a person is set straight and confident in their own Christianity then it is okay to read but not for children who are learning about their religion. In the bible it says you are not to cast spells or have anything to do with witchcraft because it goes against God. The Chronicals of Narnia are alot better for children. I suggest you read about the Popes by going to the vatican web site or ewtn.
You say in one sentence that anyone can write a book, condemn the book being discussed as lies, and then tell us to read about the popes so that we'll find the "real answer". This is an extremely contradictory statement.

“Farewell”

Since: Mar 08

GREENWOOD

#70 Apr 25, 2008
I feel that many Christians are afraid of anyone who thinks for themselves because it spotlights their own dependence on priests, popes and anyone else in the Christian hierarchy that tells them what to do and what to believe. The Christians cannot think for themselves so they despise those who can. We don't need to be lead like sheep and so we face the disdain of those who cannot walk on their own.
Clint

Scarborough, UK

#71 Apr 29, 2008
Wasn't he in the Hitler youth
Clint

Scarborough, UK

#72 Apr 29, 2008

Since: Jan 08

Mestre, Venezia - Italy

#73 Apr 29, 2008
Clint wrote:
Wasn't he in the Hitler youth
see "Papal hopeful is a former Hitler Youth" at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/a...

“Here to stay!”

Since: Oct 07

Pasco, WA

#74 Apr 29, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>I have read about pagans and wiccans. I know the wiccans started in the nineteen fifties, I know witchcraft and the occult go against God, I know pagans and wiccans worship many gods which are false gods. You also worship what God created but you will not worship the Creator. You worship little fairies and such which are mythical, and people say they see them but in reality they are demons. Christians are taught to stay away from such things as they are against God.
Where do you get off being such a religious biggot? You have NO CLUE on what you are talking about. Hey sheep, I thing you are straying away from the flock... Shouldn't you get back?

Since: Mar 08

Middleton, WI

#75 Apr 29, 2008
Clint wrote:
Wasn't he in the Hitler youth
He was, but in all fairness, all german kids his age were. It was compulsory. There is no indication that he ever believed the eugenic doctrines of nazism.

Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#76 Apr 29, 2008
Hello, everyone - don't you realize that this person is actually K&P hiding behind different monikers? Why are you even arguing with her? She's just trying to get you to feed her persecution and messiah needs...

Remember, Falls City NE = K&P.

bloodyvisigoths

Since: Apr 07

Courtland, CA

#77 Apr 29, 2008
ding dong your wrong wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, ol' Adolph loved the occult, you know tarot card readings etc, Adolph had spiritual advisors on the occult. Adolph hated Jews , Christians with a passion. He was infatuated with the roman gods. I guess that makes him a pagan.
You obviouly choose to ingnore NYPagan's post. Hitler was one of your christians, not a pagan.

You're an idiot.

bloodyvisigoths

Since: Apr 07

Courtland, CA

#78 Apr 29, 2008
hey fool wrote:
<quoted text>He did not believe he was doing gods work, he hated God and anything that had to do with Christianity, open up a history book and find out for yourself.
I like your name; it brings out your personality so well. You could try reading "Mein Kampf" for yourself, but naw, you're not gonna do that, are ya, scooter? You just keep living in your own fantasy world.
john

Overland Park, KS

#79 Apr 29, 2008
sodypop wrote:
Ding Dong would you happen to know Knit and Prey? Considering you are coming from a town of just over 5,000 and a county of just over 8,000, just wondering.
You live in an inbred state.

bloodyvisigoths

Since: Apr 07

Courtland, CA

#80 Apr 29, 2008
hey there wrote:
<quoted text>He was a pagan, He detested
God and all God stood for. He wanted to be a god, therefore he was a pagan, How could someone be Christian and want to be a god? He could not. He was therefore a pagan.
You're not fooling anyone with your name change, K&P.

bloodyvisigoths

Since: Apr 07

Courtland, CA

#81 Apr 29, 2008
for your info wrote:
<quoted text>Lay people never had a say in who is going to be the Pope, the cardinals vote on who is going to be the Pope. EWTN is a good source for Catholics. And those wanting to be Catholic. The Pope now , has been on ewtn a few times and so has Pope John PaulII. The web page and tv are a great help for Catholics to get to know their religion better, the Pope has praised it, So has Pope John PaulII. Mother Angelica did us a great service, God Bless Mother Angelica! Also an encyclical is written by a Pope. Every Catholic Church in my Diasece hands out programming for ewtn.
Hi, K&P! How's that ol' multiple personality thing working out? Off your meds again, I see. No matter how many different names you use, your ISP location gives you away. So how's the weather in Nebraska?

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