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Opinion?? Was i right to say what i did???

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“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#1 Apr 1, 2008
ok well i found a PAGANISM V CHIRSTIANITY forum topic and well this is what i posted:

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I am a PROUD Pagan but i find it quite trivial how we seem to let Religion pull the world apart the way it is, we are ALL human beings, we all have families, we all have lives, yes not all of us are "good" persay but if you look at it the majority of today's hate crimes are performed by supposed "Christians." You all talk about how loving and caring GOD is yet look at your Bible:

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)

How does that not contradict itself? The Bible is full of them and no one can come up with a good arguement to back what is said. The only thing i can say is "Love Thy Neighbor" let Bigons be Bigons, dont try and run some one elses life if they are happy the way they are.
I have not closed my mind to the possibility of GOD and JESUS but i am PAGAN, we, in a sense, worship the changing of the seasons, we KNOW it happens we witness it all the time there for it exists, provide me with the exidence needed and i WILL bow down before GOD and seek his forgiveness, but until then let people live their lives let us be, we(pagans) are people too, we have lives we have families. I do NOT mean to offend, if what i have said offends you i am sorry but i must speak my mind.
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Was i wrong for what i said or did i make a valid point???

“Judgy not lest ye be judgied!”

Since: Feb 08

Farmington, NM

#2 Apr 1, 2008
I think you made some great points. And don't forget that God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son...

Freedom of Religion means ALL Religions, not just Christianity. Live and let live, we don't all have to believe/worship the same.

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#3 Apr 1, 2008
Wiccad wrote:
I think you made some great points. And don't forget that God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son...
Freedom of Religion means ALL Religions, not just Christianity. Live and let live, we don't all have to believe/worship the same.
Thank you i was beginning to think i was sounding like a jerk ^-^;
Laughing Cow

United States

#4 Apr 1, 2008
Pagan Heart wrote:
ok well i found a PAGANISM V CHIRSTIANITY forum topic and well this is what i posted:
__________
I am a PROUD Pagan but i find it quite trivial how we seem to let Religion pull the world apart the way it is, we are ALL human beings, we all have families, we all have lives, yes not all of us are "good" persay but if you look at it the majority of today's hate crimes are performed by supposed "Christians." You all talk about how loving and caring GOD is yet look at your Bible:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)
How does that not contradict itself? The Bible is full of them and no one can come up with a good arguement to back what is said. The only thing i can say is "Love Thy Neighbor" let Bigons be Bigons, dont try and run some one elses life if they are happy the way they are.
I have not closed my mind to the possibility of GOD and JESUS but i am PAGAN, we, in a sense, worship the changing of the seasons, we KNOW it happens we witness it all the time there for it exists, provide me with the exidence needed and i WILL bow down before GOD and seek his forgiveness, but until then let people live their lives let us be, we(pagans) are people too, we have lives we have families. I do NOT mean to offend, if what i have said offends you i am sorry but i must speak my mind.
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Was i wrong for what i said or did i make a valid point???
Whaddaya want...a medal?? Geeeez ok, have a pat on the back already!

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#5 Apr 1, 2008
Laughing Cow wrote:
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Whaddaya want...a medal?? Geeeez ok, have a pat on the back already!
Jerk -_-...i was just expressing an opinion and wondering if i went too far expressing it.....
Laughing Cow

United States

#6 Apr 1, 2008
Pagan Heart wrote:
<quoted text>Jerk -_-...i was just expressing an opinion and wondering if i went too far expressing it.....
It's time to grow up now.

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#7 Apr 1, 2008
Laughing Cow wrote:
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It's time to grow up now.
jeese are you just here to pick on me???
The Voice

AOL

#8 Apr 1, 2008
Pagan Heart wrote:
<quoted text>jeese are you just here to pick on me???
I'm very worried about you, Pagan Heart. PLEASE don't ever even THINK about taking your life!

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#9 Apr 1, 2008
The Voice wrote:
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I'm very worried about you, Pagan Heart. PLEASE don't ever even THINK about taking your life!
woah!!! when did i say i was going to take my life????? Im quite happy with my life thank you
The Voice

AOL

#10 Apr 1, 2008
No, Pagan Heart, you are not quite happy with your life. I've been watching you and you verbally assault others here, but you are hyper-sensitive to any criticism or abuse yourself. You also put that picture with your MtF status, but don't act as a stellar ambassador for transexuals -- just the opposite. You post to provoke people to attack you but the problem is you can't take it. You are young and fragile and have been abused terribly in real life. You are a bleeding open wound and all it will take is one intelligent, cruel troll to push you over the deep end. I have read about people committing suicide because they were tormented online and I see you as a prime candidate for that kind of tragedy the way you behave. Just an observation. Take care.

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#11 Apr 1, 2008
omg ur kidding me right??? Nice April Fools Voice, im not about ready to put a bullet in my head or something like that, i have people that care about me and that i care about, i am NOT MtF i am FtM and it just really pisses me off when people do that to others, put them down like that, every one has a right to be who they want no matter what.
The Voice

AOL

#12 Apr 1, 2008
Pagan Heart wrote:
omg ur kidding me right??? Nice April Fools Voice, im not about ready to put a bullet in my head or something like that, i have people that care about me and that i care about, i am NOT MtF i am FtM and it just really pisses me off when people do that to others, put them down like that, every one has a right to be who they want no matter what.
No April Fool's, you're a boiling cauldron of rage and insecurity which is a deadly combination, especially since you're so young. And I meant FtM I just typed wrong. And don't give me that bull that it just pisses you off when people put others down-you put down/bully people all over Topix and have been spoken to about your behavior before. You are looking to take your rage out on anyone you can, but I guarantee it will only turn back on yourself in the end.

“living is learning”

Since: Sep 07

Nanaimo BC

#13 Apr 1, 2008
Voice? I don't know this P.H. that you are talking to, but it sounds to me as if you are projecting some of your own feelings on to him? Your words are so cut and dry, I just really don't think you can get that much info on anyone by their internet postings...

I'm sure that PH would appreciate your concern more if it sounded more compassionate and less judgmental.
The Voice

AOL

#14 Apr 2, 2008
bondgrrl27 wrote:
Voice? I don't know this P.H. that you are talking to, but it sounds to me as if you are projecting some of your own feelings on to him? Your words are so cut and dry, I just really don't think you can get that much info on anyone by their internet postings...
I'm sure that PH would appreciate your concern more if it sounded more compassionate and less judgmental.
Point taken. I don't have a relationship with PH so I'm trying to cut right to the chase and probably failing. He seems like a nice highschool kid from reading his MySpace, but I am worried that he won't be able to take what he's dishing on Topix due to his young age and vulnerability. Maybe I've just seen too many Dateline shows about kids who are different being driven over the edge via the Net, but I'm going to keep an eye out for him and if I see him get hurt I'll contact him either here or through his MySpace. Thanks for your input bondgrrrl.:)
Wes the Wiccan

Hartsville, TN

#15 Apr 2, 2008
........uh......ok then I think Ill leave this convesation alone...haaa

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#16 Apr 2, 2008
The Voice wrote:
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Point taken. I don't have a relationship with PH so I'm trying to cut right to the chase and probably failing. He seems like a nice highschool kid from reading his MySpace, but I am worried that he won't be able to take what he's dishing on Topix due to his young age and vulnerability. Maybe I've just seen too many Dateline shows about kids who are different being driven over the edge via the Net, but I'm going to keep an eye out for him and if I see him get hurt I'll contact him either here or through his MySpace. Thanks for your input bondgrrrl.:)
um...i dont know whether to be thankfulive got some one watching over me or creeped out....
Wes the Wiccan

Hartsville, TN

#17 Apr 2, 2008
Ahh..ya way to weird of a conversation...Hey Pagan Heart...how old are you....Im 20..Married,
I have a 3 month old..haa..just in case your not suposed to be talking to strangers... by the way these guys here talking to you sound as if you 13 or something..

“Blessings to you and yours.”

Since: Dec 07

Washington DC

#18 Apr 2, 2008
Pagan Heart, It sounds like you have a stalker. The Voice thinks you are young and vulnerable and may try to take advantage of the vulnerability in some way. I would be creeped out and cautious.
As to your original post, I don't think you went to far. Unfortunately, when dealing with Uber-Christians, you have to be blunt to get their attention.
I think you have a good head on your shoulders and a good heart. Blessings to you.

“Dont judge me.”

Since: Dec 07

New Port Richey, FL

#19 Apr 2, 2008
Wes the Wiccan wrote:
Ahh..ya way to weird of a conversation...Hey Pagan Heart...how old are you....Im 20..Married,
I have a 3 month old..haa..just in case your not suposed to be talking to strangers... by the way these guys here talking to you sound as if you 13 or something..
im 17....
Laughing Cow

United States

#20 Apr 2, 2008
bondgrrl27 wrote:
Voice? I don't know this P.H. that you are talking to, but it sounds to me as if you are projecting some of your own feelings on to him? Your words are so cut and dry, I just really don't think you can get that much info on anyone by their internet postings...
I'm sure that PH would appreciate your concern more if it sounded more compassionate and less judgmental.
No. What Voice says is all true. Pagan heart comes here acting like an innocent victim but he is a vicious insulter on other forums. On this forum he is an actor. On other forums he is a predator.

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