Why non-believers need rituals too

Why non-believers need rituals too

There are 29 comments on the The Raw Story story from Dec 27, 2013, titled Why non-believers need rituals too. In it, The Raw Story reports that:

The last time I put my own atheism through the spin cycle rather than simply wiping it clean was when I wanted to make a ceremony after the birth of my third child.

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EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#21 Jan 2, 2014
LCNin wrote:
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Again, Adolf Hitler was a Liar and a mass murderer.
Again, one cannot judge character by whether one is religious or not. That has been debunked many a time. Religionists aren't better or worse than non-religionists and nobody is better for simply being religious. Religious divisions have caused sectarian divisions and war, it isn't an agent of peace. Religion and religious faith is essential to Zionism and Islamism and worse that is in the world.

So, we only know what Pres Obama believes based on his public statements. Exactly the point I was making. What about Jim Jones? All you do if someone openly religious isn't 'good' is disown them.
LCNin wrote:
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In philosophy the idea of the material and non material world exist, one proved and the other of faith.
What philosophy is that? One might equally argue they must exist in the same world.
LCNin wrote:
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People of faith can not prove that God exists or that he created the universe.
Nor provide any serious evidence in support of such a proposition. You won't even define your god. Which one(s)?...
godchecker.com
LCNin wrote:
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If one takes a complete materialist view of the world the it is difficult to prove that beauty, friendship and love exist.
More jibberish. Such concepts are useful, defined, in dictionaries and familiar in all human's experience. They have absolutely nothing to do with religion or religious faith.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beauty
LCNin wrote:
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The number of people who believe in an idea does not indicate the validity of the idea?[
No. Religion is plainly man-made and usually parent-given, not revelation and god-given. Religion is a legacy of human historical development. Many people believed all kinds of things in the past.

Non-believers simply follow the evidence, we aren't more materialistic than you are.
LCNin wrote:
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Have a good day
Platitude to you too.

You seem a typical religionist. You regard witchcraft and voodoo as mumbo jumbo but defend belief in Abrahamic gods and every sort of nonsense imaginable - and without any success I might add. Science and education are undermining religious faith as it has undermined every other mumbo-jumbo. Religion is simply the last bastion of superstition.

And you still haven't defined your god or associated yourself with a religion, probably because you know how stupid you look when you do. Trust me, you don't look any better by trying to avoid these questions.

What god is it you refer to? Define him please.

What value is there in religion?

And why all and any religion rather than none at all?

If you've got anything to say at all, L, let's have it.
LCNin

United States

#22 Jan 2, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Again, one cannot judge character by whether one is religious or not. That has been debunked many a time. Religionists aren't better or worse than non-religionists and nobody is better for simply being religious. Religious divisions have caused sectarian divisions and war, it isn't an agent of peace. Religion and religious faith is essential to Zionism and Islamism and worse that is in the world.
So, we only know what Pres Obama believes based on his public statements. Exactly the point I was making. What about Jim Jones? All you do if someone openly religious isn't 'good' is disown them.
<quoted text>What philosophy is that? One might equally argue they must exist in the same world.
<quoted text>Nor provide any serious evidence in support of such a proposition. You won't even define your god. Which one(s)?...
godchecker.com
<quoted text>More jibberish. Such concepts are useful, defined, in dictionaries and familiar in all human's experience. They have absolutely nothing to do with religion or religious faith.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beauty
<quoted text>No. Religion is plainly man-made and usually parent-given, not revelation and god-given. Religion is a legacy of human historical development. Many people believed all kinds of things in the past.
Non-believers simply follow the evidence, we aren't more materialistic than you are.
<quoted text>Platitude to you too.
You seem a typical religionist. You regard witchcraft and voodoo as mumbo jumbo but defend belief in Abrahamic gods and every sort of nonsense imaginable - and without any success I might add. Science and education are undermining religious faith as it has undermined every other mumbo-jumbo. Religion is simply the last bastion of superstition.
And you still haven't defined your god or associated yourself with a religion, probably because you know how stupid you look when you do. Trust me, you don't look any better by trying to avoid these questions.
What god is it you refer to? Define him please.
What value is there in religion?
And why all and any religion rather than none at all?
If you've got anything to say at all, L, let's have it.
"You seem a typical religionist." :-)

I hope that you find the answers to the question you post.

Is your mind closed,
it might appear so to some,
but I can not make that judgment.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#23 Jan 2, 2014
This is just trolling....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_ (Internet)
A person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community" Unquote.(And note I give my sources, unlike you).
LCNin wrote:
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"You seem a typical religionist." :-)
I hope that you find the answers to the question you post.
Is your mind closed,
it might appear so to some,
but I can not make that judgment.
Yes, keep running L.

I'm tired of pounding on a puppy. You're fortunate that you can't see how you appear.
LCNin

United States

#24 Jan 2, 2014
EdSed wrote:
This is just trolling....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_ (Internet)
A person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community" Unquote.(And note I give my sources, unlike you).
<quoted text>Yes, keep running L.
I'm tired of pounding on a puppy. You're fortunate that you can't see how you appear.
Abolition of religion and all that rot practiced in the Soviet Union.
This does sound
a bit like you?

"Marxist–Leninist atheism is a part of the wider Marxist–Leninist philosophy the type of Marxist philosophy found in the Soviet Union
which rejects religion :-)
and advocates a materialist understanding of nature :-)
Therefore, Marxism-Leninism advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism.:-)

The above does sound a bit like You,
does it not?

LOL
Jim

Scunthorpe, UK

#25 Jan 3, 2014
LCNin wrote:
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Hitler was basically a Liar, who murdered many Atheists, Agnostic, Christians and Jews.
He wrote pro Christian statements and in "the Table Talk" attacked Christianity.
He lied to advance his agenda of murder.
He had no problem murdering children in gas chambers
The only liar here is YOU! You cant accept the damning history of your cult.
Jim

Scunthorpe, UK

#26 Jan 3, 2014
LCNin wrote:
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The number of people who believe in an idea does not indicate the validity of the idea?
Have a good day
Says the Creationist Cult member / Christian Propoganda Liar who was earlier arguing that Atheism was wrong because not enough people *believed* in it.

LCNin's word not to be trusted!
Jim

Scunthorpe, UK

#27 Jan 3, 2014
LCNin wrote:
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Abolition of religion and all that rot practiced in the Soviet Union.
This does sound
a bit like you?
"Marxist–Leninist atheism is a part of the wider Marxist–Leninist philosophy the type of Marxist philosophy found in the Soviet Union
which rejects religion :-)
and advocates a materialist understanding of nature :-)
Therefore, Marxism-Leninism advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism.:-)
The above does sound a bit like You,
does it not?
LOL
Dimwitted & cowardly Creationist Cult Members cannot argue against Atheism, so they bring up Marxism and Liberalism instead.
LCNin

United States

#28 Jan 4, 2014
Some good tidings in the United Kingdom

In her traditional message to the nation and Commonwealth, the 87-year-old monarch spoke of the dramatic change in life that parenthood has brought for George’s mother and father, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, since his arrival on July 22.

“Here at home my own family is a little larger this Christmas,” she said in the address, recorded in the blue drawing room at Buckingham Palace.

“As so many of you will know, the arrival of a baby gives everyone the chance to contemplate the future with renewed happiness and hope.

“For the new parents, life will never be quite the same again.”

Her words were accompanied by footage of William bouncing George up and down in his arms, with Kate by his side, as they chatted to relatives outside the Chapel Royal, St James’s Palace, before their son was christened by the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby on October 23.

There was also film of a photoshoot that included an historic picture of the Queen with three future monarchs – Princes Charles, William and George – at Clarence House later that day. A voice, thought to be that of photographer Jason Bell, could be heard saying:“One, two, three" as a group picture was taken of the baby prince, his doting parents, the Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Charles and Camilla, and Prince Harry.

Wish them well
Jim

Scunthorpe, UK

#29 Jan 5, 2014
LCNin wrote:
Some good tidings in the United Kingdom
In her traditional message to the nation and Commonwealth, the 87-year-old monarch spoke of the dramatic change in life that parenthood has brought for George’s mother and father, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, since his arrival on July 22.
“Here at home my own family is a little larger this Christmas,” she said in the address, recorded in the blue drawing room at Buckingham Palace.
“As so many of you will know, the arrival of a baby gives everyone the chance to contemplate the future with renewed happiness and hope.
“For the new parents, life will never be quite the same again.”
Her words were accompanied by footage of William bouncing George up and down in his arms, with Kate by his side, as they chatted to relatives outside the Chapel Royal, St James’s Palace, before their son was christened by the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby on October 23.
There was also film of a photoshoot that included an historic picture of the Queen with three future monarchs – Princes Charles, William and George – at Clarence House later that day. A voice, thought to be that of photographer Jason Bell, could be heard saying:“One, two, three" as a group picture was taken of the baby prince, his doting parents, the Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Charles and Camilla, and Prince Harry.
Wish them well
More Queenspam from Creationist Cult Member lost for words.

Peace.

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