Wicca Exposed.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#249 Dec 15, 2013
Orchadman.. If any of this is true.. then do not come on to a public forum.. Report the monster. If your wife was what sounds to me as an assualt.. Then file a criminal complaint. that is what normal people do as a matter of fact. not come on to a public forum crying about it,.
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#250 Dec 15, 2013
Took you long enough to get here Gumby!

Don't worry about Orchadman's problems,he's doing the right thing by venting it out on this forum.

What are you trying to do? Get him to have a fight with his wife?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#251 Dec 15, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
Orchadman.. If any of this is true.. then do not come on to a public forum.. Report the monster. If your wife was what sounds to me as an assualt.. Then file a criminal complaint. that is what normal people do as a matter of fact. not come on to a public forum crying about it,.
the slight difficulty 'Kathwynn' is that my wife does not regard it as an assault. Has that occurred to you.
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#252 Dec 15, 2013
Yea,'Kathwynn' I'd like to know that too.

And you claim to be a wiccan priest.You must have delt with this kind of thing in you coven group before.
C Shine

Fletcher, NC

#253 Dec 16, 2013
Then you need to tell others who this group is because they are misrepresenting themselves and Wicca. There are many places that are especially for people looking to hook-up so why they bother to even have the Wiccan shingle out in relation to this? Because they are just using it as a means of manipulation. Unless they list themselves foremost as a group for this purpose and secondarily as spiritual then there is nothing honest about these people. Just because one person thinks that was what she was 'missing in her life' doesn't mean that for anyone else. At the least it is a pointless waste of time for people who are sure of what they are looking for to find out this group is nonsense and at the most it is a misuse of perceived power or authority to hold out spiritual guidance and comfort in exchange for something a person would not ordinarily give of their own free will.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#254 Dec 16, 2013
That may be true but they say they are part of the Feri tradition which has a reliance on physical involvement it seems. I dont believe that anyone is for ed to have sex but rather give themselves willingly. Its not much different from believing what someone tells you in any other sovial setting

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#255 Dec 16, 2013
You made it sound like she was manipulated/coerced into this arrangement. The founders of the Feri religion themselves are against that and do not require a group or practioners to practice sexual tantra with each other. Being sex-positive is not and never should be confused as to ignoring consent, coercing consent, pestering, belittling, arguing into or otherwise pressuring a person into consent. Period, never. No means no and the used car salesman pitch can be left in commercialism.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#256 Dec 16, 2013
You also respect existing relationships. If this woman developed feelings/desire for a leader in this group, an ethical leader and priest would have counseled, nay, required her to work that out with her current loyalty before any actions were made on that account. Being into alternative expressions is not a license to act irresponsibly.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#257 Dec 16, 2013
Orchardman wrote:
<quoted text>the slight difficulty 'Kathwynn' is that my wife does not regard it as an assault. Has that occurred to you.
Not an assault.. everything you stated would draw any reasonable person to a conclusion of it being an assault.. So either you are talking out of your @ss.. Or there was an assault.
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#258 Dec 16, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
Not an assault.. everything you stated would draw any reasonable person to a conclusion of it being an assault.. So either you are talking out of your @ss.. Or there was an assault.
Its hard to say about who did what sounds like.

But you being a Wiccan priest,I bet you was getting the poon all the time.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#259 Dec 16, 2013
There is little point engaging with a troll

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#260 Dec 17, 2013
That is what jumper is here. Thanks for noticing the fool in the room..

My question still stands though.. Was it an an assault or are you talking out of your @ss?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#261 Dec 17, 2013
It isn't an assault when the recipient wants it. You have the arrogance if the poorly educated which assumes that you must be right on each and every occasion. There must be some way of blocking your kind

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#262 Dec 17, 2013
Orchardman wrote:
It isn't an assault when the recipient wants it. You have the arrogance if the poorly educated which assumes that you must be right on each and every occasion. There must be some way of blocking your kind
Then what you are doing is blaming a group for something that your wife wanted.. If this were a christian church and your wife had an affair with the minister/pastor/priest. I do not think you would be so quick to to be condemning the entire religion.

So what we have here, in my opinion, is some one who wife had an affair. Regretted it. Now you, the wounded party, are here to hate everything Wicca.. Got it.

Otherwise your wife would be making a criminal complaint as it could be a good case of assault and possibly rape. Regardless of whether she consented at the time.. By your own admission. You say she felt manipulated. That is a criminal and a civil case. Though do consult with an attorney. Then file charges.

Again you are coming across as a wounded husband and are just b*tching that your wife had an affair. Now using that as an excuse to hate everything that is Pagan.
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#263 Dec 17, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
Then what you are doing is blaming a group for something that your wife wanted.. If this were a christian church and your wife had an affair with the minister/pastor/priest. I do not think you would be so quick to to be condemning the entire religion.
So what we have here, in my opinion, is some one who wife had an affair. Regretted it. Now you, the wounded party, are here to hate everything Wicca.. Got it.
Otherwise your wife would be making a criminal complaint as it could be a good case of assault and possibly rape. Regardless of whether she consented at the time.. By your own admission. You say she felt manipulated. That is a criminal and a civil case. Though do consult with an attorney. Then file charges.
Again you are coming across as a wounded husband and are just b*tching that your wife had an affair. Now using that as an excuse to hate everything that is Pagan.
Are you judging that guy because he has a problem with his wife getting involved with some sick preverted cult? Or because he said somthing that defamed your belife that sexual misconduct does not happen in wiccan covens?

I may be a troll but,I still see you are setting a double standard here.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#264 Dec 17, 2013
I was not referring to you as a Troll Jumper. In any case it is not a problem. It is clear that this wicca nonsense is just that. Far from being a religion it is a collection of widely differing approaches which seem to be used as an excuse for whatever the individuals involved favour.
C Shine

Fletcher, NC

#265 Dec 18, 2013
Since you continue to refuse to be frank about who this is, I sincerely hope you are following this up with the local Pagan community in your area, and other Feri tradition groups so that they can be aware of what happened. Your willingness to discuss personal details has only brought out Jumper the pervy troll hanging on creepily to your every word about the affair, while you refuse to discuss the practical and ethical impact of this group's actions. I hope you are doing something more productive than this, or that you have learned how you can. Avoid pervy creepy questions about personal details of the acts themselves, as that is unhelpful and counter-productive; and stick to the facts about the dishonesty and pressure and manipulation that did happen.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#266 Dec 18, 2013
Orchardman wrote:
I was not referring to you as a Troll Jumper. In any case it is not a problem. It is clear that this wicca nonsense is just that. Far from being a religion it is a collection of widely differing approaches which seem to be used as an excuse for whatever the individuals involved favour.
I will echo CShine. I hope that you are doing more than sitting on this public forum B*tching.

Your wife had an affair. Or she was manipulated into one.

The former is something that you and her need to talk to a marriage councilor about.. The latter is a matter of you sitting down with a lawyer to explore what if any criminal complaint you might want swear out. As well what civil complaint in the form of a suit you can either bring against the group or individuals.

And for the record. Any one coming onto topix as you have done. Hating everything Pagan and Wiccan. Thinking that no one would swing back. Is either a fool troll or an idiot.. Your attempts at projecting your stupidity on to me is noted and laughed at for sheer stupidity.

The next time you have an issue with Pagans and or Wicca. Posting both your hate and disdain for the Pagan religions in general and Wicca specifically. Expecting any one to treat you kindly. You are either delusional or a fool bigot. To be honest I don't care which at the moment.

Take this up to the christian forums. There you will find all the "sympathy" you seemingly need.

I and Cshine offered you the best suggestions that you are likely get on any public forum.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#267 Dec 18, 2013
you really are clowns. I have said nothing about details. In fact I know little of the intimate detail.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#268 Dec 18, 2013
Orchardman wrote:
you really are clowns. I have said nothing about details. In fact I know little of the intimate detail.


Orchardman Wrote
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/pagan-wic...
My wife was invited to take part in a 'coven' on the basis that they did good and were into herbs and healing and things. The woman who introduced her just wanted her to be one of her husband's playmates and that's what happened.

Orchardman
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/pagan-wic...

No it was not forced. She was gradually led to the point where she believed group sex was perfectly appropriate and she admits that after he fucked her once she wanted more. She recognises that it was not what she thought it was but also admits she enjoyed it immensely."

Those are details.. So yes you have been posting details.

The only clown here is you..

My suggestion.. Seek a marriage counselor.

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