Tarot Myths: “Don’t Touch My Deck”

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“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#1 Jul 21, 2009
Since I was about 8, I have kept a Tarot Deck “stacked” for seasonal use. It is a deck that I use for daily readings, and to tune my intuition. It is a deck that has been married to my first morning tea (recently swapped for coffee) for as long as I can remember. When I was young this “stacking” taught me to appreciate and understand associations and meanings of the Tarot Cards. It takes a while to “stack” this deck and it takes a year to 13 months to run through it.

Recently a friend was over, they grabbed for this deck that was on the coffee table and I said “Don’t touch my deck”. They politely ceased the reach. My friend told me,“I have heard that some believe their Tarot Decks shouldn’t be touched, but I have handled yours before so I thought it would be ok”.

My friend thought it was the deck I didn’t want them to touch, when in actuality it was the labor that I didn’t want them to disturb. I had “stacked” the deck for seasonal use, and I was in the second season with spring blossoms behind me and summer in full heat. Stacked and ready to go as easily as sleep is surrendered to the new day. Yes this was a deck not to be touched, not because it is a Trot Deck that I owned but because it was a deck that I had stacked for a particular use. There is a difference.

In all likelihood, only those who stack a deck for a particular season will understand this. A seasonal deck understands that roses blossom differently in time than walkways are shoveled. Plants do not bloom at the same time they blossom, no matter what “intuition” has to say about it…leaves fall in the Autumn, bud in the spring, and create summer foliage, and disappear in the winter….and no ones “intuition” can change this.

After my friends visit? I can understand where the “myth” of “Don’t touch my cards” came from.

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#2 Jul 21, 2009
Well well... look what the cat dragged in.

“WOOH!!”

Since: May 08

Vallejo, CA

#3 Jul 22, 2009
It's always bad manners to touch anyone's magical/spiritual objects without asking permission first.

When doing a reading, I have the person I'm reading for cut the deck. That way, their energy is put into the deck for that reading. But after, the deck gets cleansed. But if somebody took it upon themselves to pick up a deck and start messing with it, I'd be pissed.

Of course, one way to protect those things we don't want handled is to keep them in a place not so easily accessible.
redcrone

Marion, IL

#4 Jul 22, 2009
I've been reading a lot of books & information this past year about the tarot and doing weekly spreads for practice, but i have never seen anything about stacking. care to sahare? how is it done? any places you suggest to look to learn more? thanks

“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#5 Jul 23, 2009
Sure there is a good book written by Lon Milo DuQuette entitled Tarot of Ceremonial Magick. Mr. DuQuette uses the associations of the Tarot Cards as held by The Golden Dawn that is slightly different then my traditional teachings, but are far more popular in the western traditions then the eastern associations I have been taught. Most western Tarot enthusiasts are more comfortable with the Golden Dawn Associations.

I stack my seasonal deck with the cards associated with each sign of the Zodiac there are five in each sign a Major a Court and three minor cards. Then I add the ace and page for the "Fixed" minor cards associated with the season, I separate the Major cards that represent all of the planets of the ancient world (except the Moon, more on that later.) Those 6 cards are added with every season in respect to As above so below.

If you do this with the entire deck you are left with 4 major arcana cards, The Fool, associated with Spring, The High Priestess associated with Summer, The hanged man associated with Fall and Judgment representing Winter.

Once this is done you will see that every seasonal deck has 18 cards, adding up to the 18th Major arcana card The Moon which rules all seasons and the 6 remaining planet cards are added to each seasonal deck bring the total number of cards for each season to 24.

It is now the summer season so my 24 cards for this season and the associations are:

The High Priestess
The Ace of Wands
The Page of Wands
Representing Summer
Queen of Cups
The Chariot
Representing Cancer
2 of Cups
3 of cups
4 of cups
Representing Cancer (cardinal)
King of Wands
Justice
Representing Leo
4 of wands
5 of wands
6 of wands
Representing Leo (fixed)
Knight of Coins
The Hermit
Representing Virgo
8 of Coins
9 of Coins
10 of coins
Representing Virgo (mutable)

These are the 18 cards of the season. Then add the Planet cards,(which are added to each season)

The Magician representing Mercury
The Empress representing Venus
The Wheel representing Jupiter
The Tower representing Mars
The Sun representing the Sun
The World representing Saturn

This is my summer seasonal deck, I will use it until we enter the sun sign of Libra, for quick, blunt personal daily readings. I like to use a triangular layout

...1...

...A...

2.....3

1. Where the energy of the day is at.
2. Where I am at, how I see myself.
2. How others will see me today
A. The tools I will need for the day

“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#6 Jul 23, 2009
If you run the seasons of a seasonally stacked deck for a couple of years, the intimacy that you develop with the Tarot is amazing.
shur

Columbia City, IN

#7 Jul 23, 2009
NiftyWitch wrote:
It's always bad manners to touch anyone's magical/spiritual objects without asking permission first.
When doing a reading, I have the person I'm reading for cut the deck. That way, their energy is put into the deck for that reading. But after, the deck gets cleansed. But if somebody took it upon themselves to pick up a deck and start messing with it, I'd be pissed.
Of course, one way to protect those things we don't want handled is to keep them in a place not so easily accessible.
I just came upon this. I'm always curious about the card reading.& wanted to have a reading,but I had 2 different card readers,even years apart,refuse to read for me..both said same negative type reasons for refusing..can you tell me why ? I can tell the whole story about it if needed,just didn't want to type all that if not ....

“WOOH!!”

Since: May 08

Vallejo, CA

#8 Jul 23, 2009
shur wrote:
<quoted text>I just came upon this. I'm always curious about the card reading.& wanted to have a reading,but I had 2 different card readers,even years apart,refuse to read for me..both said same negative type reasons for refusing..can you tell me why ? I can tell the whole story about it if needed,just didn't want to type all that if not ....
Without knowing what the reasons were for their refusal, I won't be able to answer your question.

“everything she touches changes”

Since: Sep 08

Nanaimo

#9 Jul 26, 2009
thanks for sharing the info on the seasonal stacking. i have never heard of that before. I think I may try it.
Marty Luther King

Boise, ID

#10 Aug 3, 2009
is this ok to do? stacking the deck sounds like cheating.
Natalia Tikimirova wrote:
Since I was about 8, I have kept a Tarot Deck “stacked” for seasonal use. It is a deck that I use for daily readings, and to tune my intuition. It is a deck that has been married to my first morning tea (recently swapped for coffee) for as long as I can remember. When I was young this “stacking” taught me to appreciate and understand associations and meanings of the Tarot Cards. It takes a while to “stack” this deck and it takes a year to 13 months to run through it.
Recently a friend was over, they grabbed for this deck that was on the coffee table and I said “Don’t touch my deck”. They politely ceased the reach. My friend told me,“I have heard that some believe their Tarot Decks shouldn’t be touched, but I have handled yours before so I thought it would be ok”.
My friend thought it was the deck I didn’t want them to touch, when in actuality it was the labor that I didn’t want them to disturb. I had “stacked” the deck for seasonal use, and I was in the second season with spring blossoms behind me and summer in full heat. Stacked and ready to go as easily as sleep is surrendered to the new day. Yes this was a deck not to be touched, not because it is a Trot Deck that I owned but because it was a deck that I had stacked for a particular use. There is a difference.
In all likelihood, only those who stack a deck for a particular season will understand this. A seasonal deck understands that roses blossom differently in time than walkways are shoveled. Plants do not bloom at the same time they blossom, no matter what “intuition” has to say about it…leaves fall in the Autumn, bud in the spring, and create summer foliage, and disappear in the winter….and no ones “intuition” can change this.
After my friends visit? I can understand where the “myth” of “Don’t touch my cards” came from.

“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#11 Aug 4, 2009
Marty Luther King wrote:
is this ok to do? stacking the deck sounds like cheating. <quoted text>
ROFLMAO, in a poker game I suppose it is. My stacked deck is for my personal use, stacked to seasons, more for self examination then divination.

I also have one deck that I stack to be used as a lunar calendar.
Marty Luther King

Boise, ID

#12 Aug 4, 2009
Natalia Tikimirova wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFLMAO, in a poker game I suppose it is. My stacked deck is for my personal use, stacked to seasons, more for self examination then divination.
I also have one deck that I stack to be used as a lunar calendar.
i see. i am new to the pagan world.

“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#13 Aug 4, 2009
"pagan world"? Whats that, a title to a new song?
Marty Luther King

Boise, ID

#14 Aug 4, 2009
Natalia Tikimirova wrote:
"pagan world"? Whats that, a title to a new song?
lol. i guess it could be. no offense meant. i just feel as if i am in a new world. i have been learning things and looking at the "world" in a different way. a more positive way and people have been responding to me in a different manner. not that paganism comes up all the time, it is just happening.

“Just a Koldunia”

Since: Jan 08

Kostroma

#15 Aug 4, 2009
Looking back is hard to tell? Kinda like rain on a windshield?

No offence taken.
AnalWartz

Boise, ID

#16 Aug 4, 2009
Don't touch my rear deck or you will be sorry. Does anyone have a spell to clear up a condition?
Amy

Buffalo, NY

#17 Aug 14, 2009
Uhm, alright, I see that this thread has been dead for a little but I wanted to respond to it anyway. Personally, I don't mind who touches my cards, my fiance uses them, I let my four year old nephew think hes using them [very carefully supervised!] When I read for friends and family I let them cut the deck, I'm a very open person and love contact with people.

As I view all magickal tools as a sort of extension of oneself I sort of feel as if they absorb our traits, and silly is it may sound, if I were a deck I wouldn't want to be handled exclusively by one person. Though, if someone is being particularly cynical or are sending off bad vibrations I prefer not to let them touch them.
Razor

United States

#18 Aug 14, 2009
Ifeel pretty much the same way, don't care who touches them. I think what Natalia was saying was that it is a myth that cards shouldn't be touched and that she only objected to the cards being touched because she had them stacked for a particular purpose.

“Please don't feed the trolls.”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#19 Aug 14, 2009
Most people I have had read my cards, encouraged me to not only touch them, but to shuffle and select the cards myself. I suppose it is a personal choice, like whether or not you let a stranger pet your dog, or whether you allow someone to pat your pregnant tummy. Emotions, personality, and personal space all need to be taken into consideration. Of course, before you touch anything that is not yours...good manners dictate asking first.
DarrenGregg

Poulton, UK

#20 Jul 11, 2012
Sorry, but as Tarot reader since 1979, this is, as someone said above, cheating. There is NO need EVER to stack a deck for ANY REASON. The whole point is it's "randomness".

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