Santeria? Voodoo? What's the Difference?

Santeria? Voodoo? What's the Difference?

There are 39 comments on the The Wildhunt Weblog story from Oct 15, 2008, titled Santeria? Voodoo? What's the Difference?. In it, The Wildhunt Weblog reports that:

David Silva at the San Diego CityBeat gently chides the national media for picking up the story of a local building fire that harmed and killed no-one simply because the AP labeled it a "Voodoo supply shop". ...

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Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#1 Oct 15, 2008
Yup.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#3 Oct 15, 2008
VooDoo is in many ways, much like HooDoo. Vodou is a religion just as Santeria is.

“WOOH!!”

Since: May 08

Vallejo, CA

#4 Oct 16, 2008
To those who aren't educated on the topic, any spiritual practice that has any elements at all in common with Voodoo is going to be classified as such.

Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#5 Oct 16, 2008
Lili - question for you...
What can you tell me about Florida Water? I understand that it's quite useful for burning herbs. Is there a particular significance to it? I know it's used alot in Vodou and Santeria, but not sure if it's a "dedicated" tool.

“Please don't feed the trolls.”

Since: Apr 08

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#6 Oct 16, 2008
I wear Florida Water cologne. It has a lovely citrusy-floral fragrance. I have worn it for years, and never knew it was used for cleansing purposes until recently. You pour a bit in your cupped hands after a bath or shower and use it like after-bath splash. Very refreshing, and my husband loves it.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#7 Oct 16, 2008
DaBroad wrote:
Lili - question for you...
What can you tell me about Florida Water? I understand that it's quite useful for burning herbs. Is there a particular significance to it? I know it's used alot in Vodou and Santeria, but not sure if it's a "dedicated" tool.
Quick response and more in depth later:

It is used for cleansing, warding and protection...yourself, your possessions, your home. I use it as a floor wash on my bare floors (wood, tile, linoleum), have used it around all my doorways and window frames and I've used it in a carpet cleaning machine.

That is the quick, easy, "simple" answer.....I'll get ya more on it next week when I really have some time to work on it (out of town this weekend, but next week is fall break so lots of free time for me).

“WOOH!!”

Since: May 08

Vallejo, CA

#8 Oct 16, 2008
Is there a recipe available, or is it something that you have to purchase?

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#9 Oct 17, 2008
NiftyWitch wrote:
Is there a recipe available, or is it something that you have to purchase?
You can buy it from many botanicas...or you can make your own. I make my own.

Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#10 Oct 17, 2008
They even carry it at Walgreens. I kid you not. Murray and Lanman brand, in the men's aftershave area. That's what sparked my interest - I have a very small cauldron I'd like to burn herbs and incense in, but cant seem to get things to light and stay lit in there. Charcoal tabs even have difficulty. I believe it has something to do with draft and air flow. I wish I had room for something larger, but the space I have for all this is about 12*24, and it's a bit crowded already.

I'd read and been told of folks using FW to soak and ignite herbs as part of some rituals, as it's very flammable and quite pleasant to smell. So, when I came across it while picking up my husband's fave body spray scent, I picked up a bottle.

The scent is wonderful, and seems to change on the skin - sometimes I smell cedar, sometimes lemon, sometimes bergamot, other times I can't put my finger on it.

I'm loathe to use a tool that is "dedicated" as a tool for another set of deities - I don't want to step on any divine toes, or dial a wrong number, so to speak. That's why I'm asking.

Since: Aug 08

United States

#11 Oct 17, 2008
DaBroad wrote:
I have a very small cauldron I'd like to burn herbs and incense in, but cant seem to get things to light and stay lit in
Hi, Just a suggestion, try filling the cauldron with sand almost to the top. It helps to absorb the heat and allows more air to reach the charcoal.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#12 Oct 23, 2008
DaBroad wrote:
They even carry it at Walgreens. I kid you not. Murray and Lanman brand, in the men's aftershave area. That's what sparked my interest - I have a very small cauldron I'd like to burn herbs and incense in, but cant seem to get things to light and stay lit in there. <snipped for brevity and relevence> I'd read and been told of folks using FW to soak and ignite herbs as part of some rituals, as it's very flammable and quite pleasant to smell.


How flammable it is will depend upon the alcohol content..the higher the content, the more flammable. To guarantee flammability you can make your own to make sure it has a high enough alcohol content.(If using liquor, it must be 90 proof or above and there are special ways to process it for use in Florida Water and Floor Washes so it won't smell like liquor.)
DaBroad wrote:
I'm loathe to use a tool that is "dedicated" as a tool for another set of deities - I don't want to step on any divine toes, or dial a wrong number, so to speak. That's why I'm asking.


You can dedicate Florida Water to whatever deities you work with; many even use them "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost"...so they can be used/dedicated to your deity/deities. To my knowledge (especially in store bought), it is not specifically decicated to any one, or set of, deity until you make it so. The dediation comes in when you are MAKING or USING your FW or other Floor Washes. Yes, some of the ingredients are *associated* with certain deities/Lwa/Orisha, but they are also associated with deity of many diverse pantheons. The vast majority of washes are more associated with/dedicated to creating or removing a situation or circumstance within the building in which you use it. Such as: removing negativity, bringing in business, bringing in luck/love/happiness/money, removing bad tricks laid against you (hexes, curses et al), protecting your home/business/family/friends etc.

I have more information (how to make, how to use, what they are for) on Florida Water and other Floor Washes if you are interested. Just let me know and I'll post it.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#13 Oct 23, 2008
dediation = dedication...

I really MUST get a new keyboard and fingers! LOL!

“Please don't feed the trolls.”

Since: Apr 08

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#14 Oct 23, 2008
Tap water, when blessed and dedicated, becomes Holy Water...just as Florida water cologne can be dedicated to whichever deity or deities you prefer. You canalso wear it as cologne. I do, and it's lovely. Crackers and grape juice are blessed for the Sacrament, but my kids eat them every day at lunch. Intent, and not content, are key.

Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#15 Oct 23, 2008
Hey - I'm all about the recipes. I'm looking forward to some day moving into an apartment or house where I can spend some time in the kitchen brewing up some good stuff. Our current apartment has a kitchen that is too small with too little counter space and bad air and energy flow.

Been trying different herbal aids and remedies for myself and the home; I'll be bringing in and drying my herbs starting this week. Got a bumper crop of Thyme, but I've had this plant for at least 12 years, and it has travelled with me thru a couple of residences. Lemon balm looks good, as does my Winter Savory. Chives are growing crazy. The Chamomile were growing beautifully until I went out to Jersey for a couple months, and it was dead when I got back home. Only harvested a couple baggies of dried flowers from it in early spring; my husband tried, but he didn't dry them before he bagged them - moldy! Skullcap is still too new, as is the Valerian.

There's a wonderful fellow at Present Moment, a little herbal/homeopathic/pagan sort of store in Minneapolis, who has worked there since I can remember. He can put together some wonderful herbal mixtures. He also does all the weighing and measuring for bulk herbs and other supplies (soap flakes, salts, gelatin caps, etc).

“Please don't feed the trolls.”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#16 Oct 23, 2008
I wish there was a shop like that here! I have no talent for growing plants, but love fresh herbs.

As for making one's own Florida Water...I'd love to see that recipe!

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Since: Sep 08

Ankh-Morpork

#17 Oct 23, 2008
I love flowers, herbs, and just any kind of plant.
But I can not grow anything.
My mom would say I had the worst case of black thumb she had ever saw.
She still let me help with the spring planting.
But everything I touched died.
So my apartment is filled up plastic flowers and such.
=(

Since: Feb 08

ANOKA, MN

#18 Oct 23, 2008
I have to re-pot some cacti and a couple other plants on the kitchen window. One cactus that I thought was on it's way out (my son bought it when he was 3) suddenly sprouted two new bumps or heads on the side. First time it's ever done that. I'm taking it as a sign that it wants a bigger pot.

I'm thinking about bringing some of my herb plants in for the winter. The thyme and winter savory in particular, since they've traveled with me and we might move before spring thaw, and the Valerian and Skullcap since I just started them this year and I don't want to start over again when we do move.

BTW, Present Moment does sell their herbs online, if you have an interest in bulk herbs at all. Just Google Present Moment Minneapolis.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#19 Oct 23, 2008
Floor Washes: Uses and how to perform them:

Floor washings are used to take off harmful witchcraft spells, to clear away spiritual messes, to keep away negativity, to protect against harmful tricks and intents and to bring in positive/desired influences and conditions.

In performing a ritual floor washing to increase luck, attract customers/business, bring in a lover or friend, or help prepare the way for good influences to enter, it is common to rise before dawn and before one ever speaks a word to anyone, scrub the front doorstep inward, to draw in what is wanted. This is usually performed in silence, either for 9 days in a row for a special desire or on Wednesdays and Fridays as a continuing practice, as at a store or place of business.

The earliest floor washes were made by mixing salt (with or without added saltpeter), washing soda, ammonia, turpentine, lye, or herbs (such as Devil's Shoestring) to get rid of evil influences, or mixing diluted urine (chamber lye) in water, with or without added sugar, salt, saltpeter, blueing, or herbs (such as Cinnamon or Vanilla), to draw in customers/business, money, and love.

There are almost as many recipes for these down-home floor-wash combinations as there are people to tell them -- most calling for three ingredients plus water -- and they are often used in combination with incense fumigation of the premises the day before the washing to enhance their beneficial effect.

Floor washes are used in a very specific manner, and this procedure should be used every time you magically cleanse your house. Clean your home from the back of the house toward the front door. Mop the floors and wipe down the floor boards and the window sills with the floor wash, praying the entire time. The idea is that you are whisking the energy from the deepest parts of your home out the front door. If you have carpeted floors you can dampen a broom with the floor wash and lightly stroke it across the carpet (keeping in mind that some floor washes WILL stain, so use good judgment in how you apply them.) You can always wipe down the floor boards and window sills with a dampened rag no matter what. Work from the top downward, from the back of the house to the front door.

Once you have reached the threshold of the front door, wipe down the entire molding of the door and the threshold. This crucial area is usually given an extra-thorough scrubbing and it may also be swept while wet and sprinkled with salt, especially if the intent is to keep away evil visitors. Some will then take the bucket of mop water and mop from the sidewalk inward toward your front door. This is supposed to bring in the desired influences (positivity, luck, money, protection, etc.) I do not do this; I use a new bucket of wash and new mop to do this...I use a wash that is formulated to bring in that which I desire. Finish at the threshold of the door, wipe down the molding from the outside of the house and the threshold.

To dispose of the used wash you can take the bucket of used mop water to the crossroads and throw it over your left shoulder into the center of the crossroads toward the rising sun and walk away without looking back. Alternatively, the bucket can be tossed at a very large and sturdy tree, as it will absorb and earth the residual energy. Toss the bucket in the name(s) of your Deities, Spirits, Lwa, Orisha, etc., walk away, don't look back, and KNOW that your work is done and WILL work.

“Just Li'l ol' me....LiLi”

Since: Jun 07

Like many others

#20 Oct 23, 2008
FLORIDA WATER #1
oil of bergamot 3 fluid ounces
oil of lavender 1 fluid ounce
oil of lemon 1 fluid ounce
oil of cloves 1 1/4 fluid drachms
oil of cinnamon 2 1/2 fluid drachms
oil of neroli 1/2 fluid drachms
essence of jasmine 6 fluid ounces
essence of musk 2 fluid ounces
alcohol 8 pints
rose water 1 pint

Mix and, if cloudy, filter through
magnesium carbonate.
-- From "Fortunes in Formulas For Home, Farm, and Workshop"
edited by Garner D. Hiscox, M.E. and
Prof. T. O'Conner Sloane, A.B., A.M., Em., Ph.D.
(The Norman B. Henley Publishing Company, 1937)

FLORIDA WATER #2

oil of bergamot 3 fluid ounces
oil of lemon 1 fluid ounce
oil of ylang ylang 1 fluid ounce
oil of lavender 1/2 fluid ounce
oil of cinnamon 20 drops
oil of cloves 12 drops
oil of neroli 10 drops
alcohol 1 gallon
rose water 1 pint
(or distilled water plus light rose scent)

There's a couple for you for Florida Waters. I have many other "washes" as well.

“Please don't feed the trolls.”

Since: Apr 08

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#21 Oct 23, 2008
Thank you! 8^)

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