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#105 Feb 27, 2008
Why would someone not want to worship God who will give them eternal life? Why would someone not want to follow Christ who loves unconditionally, helps you and cares for you? We are only on this earth for a short time. Is it because God has rules that a person has to live by?

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#106 Feb 27, 2008
Lobos suck wrote:
How often do you have to slaughter and sacrifice a goat?
Wiccans don't do sacrifices.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#107 Feb 27, 2008
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>LOL, Sorry, you seem to think that the supposed "non-judgmental nature" should be applied when your belief system is being openly attacked as "junk" and a "gimmick"? That would be extremely obtuse of you.
I am what I am.
I do not follow Christianity, nor am I bound by any dogma which prohibits being judgmental.
Whether or not you "believe in it" when referring to Wicca or any other religion is NOT my concern, when you openly attack or downplay them, you leave yourself open to the exact same judgment as that which you "offer" others.
Turnabout is fair play and NOT in any method fashion or form against my beliefs.
You receive what you offer others, before you complain about what others have said, take a look at the words you have said to others, learn your lesson, and move on.
I RESPECT YOUR COLL, CALM, AND COLLECTIVE MANNER!

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#108 Feb 27, 2008
a question wrote:
Why would someone not want to worship God who will give them eternal life? Why would someone not want to follow Christ who loves unconditionally, helps you and cares for you? We are only on this earth for a short time. Is it because God has rules that a person has to live by?
My spirit is eternal, no one has to give that to me. When my spirit has grown as much as it needs to, through as many incarnations as that takes, it WILL rejoin the Divine Source. The only Divine love I need comes from my own Gods, I don't need anyone else's. My religion gives me everything I need. It has nothing to do with rules, it has to do with the fact that I don't believe in Deity as described by Christianity. You asked Knit and Pray, and there is my answer.
IRISHJOE

United States

#109 Feb 27, 2008
a question wrote:
Why would someone not want to worship God who will give them eternal life? Why would someone not want to follow Christ who loves unconditionally, helps you and cares for you? We are only on this earth for a short time. Is it because God has rules that a person has to live by?
Show me proof and I'll accept. Other than that everything you speak is mythology. Me and Christ are cool, he understands me, I understand him. He told me he's pissed at you for all the intolerance and closed-minded thinking.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#110 Feb 27, 2008
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
My spirit is eternal, no one has to give that to me. When my spirit has grown as much as it needs to, through as many incarnations as that takes, it WILL rejoin the Divine Source. The only Divine love I need comes from my own Gods, I don't need anyone else's. My religion gives me everything I need. It has nothing to do with rules, it has to do with the fact that I don't believe in Deity as described by Christianity. You asked Knit and Pray, and there is my answer.
Well Said.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#111 Feb 27, 2008
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>Well Said.
Thanks :)

Since: Dec 07

United States

#112 Feb 27, 2008
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>Wiccans don't do sacrifices.
Pagans do, they have done millions look at the history of paganism.

“Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ”

Since: Dec 07

Long Island

#114 Feb 27, 2008
Paganism: Any religion that's not Islam, Christianity, or Judiaism.

Covers a lot of ground, doesn't it?

So exactly which history are you referring to? Mayan? Aztec? Egyptian? Buddhist? Hindu? Shinto? Any number of different African Tribal religions? Neo-Paganism? Celtic?

I could go on, but you've got about 30 years of research to go do with the list provided above, K&P.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#115 Feb 27, 2008
knit and pray wrote:
<quoted text>Pagans do, they have done millions look at the history of paganism.
LIE. WICCANS do not do ritual sacrifice(or even simulated ritual sacrifice/cannibalism). All Pagans are not Wiccan. All Pagans do not do Sacrifices. Interestingly Christianity once DID do sacrifices as is noted in the story of Cain and Able.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#116 Feb 27, 2008
Lobos suck wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you hire someone to do it for you?
No. it is not done, period. I believe you are talking about Voodoo and Santeria, both of which do use animals in ritual.
Jim E

Boise, ID

#117 Feb 27, 2008
Todd in some states you are right, in some states if you shoot someone in the back and they broke into your house, and they are still in your house, you can get in trouble, new mexico and arizona isn't one of them, i think california is tho, you shoot them in the back in calif in your home the DA can prosecute you, and depending on the circumstances they will. In AZ and NM if you shoot them in the back in your home, and it's obviously a burglary the DA looks the other way. The DA in AZ didn't even think about talking to me twice, it was 3am in the morning, i was in bed, they scared the hell outta me, i panicked, and unloaded my clip, half of the clip hit them in the back and side, and the rest of the clip hit my kitchen wall lol when your scared aiming isnt exactly the first thing on your mind.
Wes

Carthage, TN

#118 Feb 27, 2008
knit and pray wrote:
<quoted text>Pagans do, they have done millions look at the history of paganism.
....Im a Wiccan....Now if were going to talk about Wicca lets have a true Wiccan present to back up the acusations thrown at the religon..

Since: Dec 07

United States

#119 Feb 27, 2008
So why might I ask would you believe in a religion that has sacrificed millions of people ?

Since: Dec 07

United States

#120 Feb 27, 2008
And please do not bring up the Crusades, your pagan religion has killed many more people. How many wars have Chrstians started? Not any in the past several hundred years or even more than that.

Since: Dec 07

United States

#121 Feb 27, 2008
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>No. it is not done, period. I believe you are talking about Voodoo and Santeria, both of which do use animals in ritual.
They also use humans.

Since: Dec 07

United States

#122 Feb 27, 2008
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>LIE. WICCANS do not do ritual sacrifice(or even simulated ritual sacrifice/cannibalism). All Pagans are not Wiccan. All Pagans do not do Sacrifices. Interestingly Christianity once DID do sacrifices as is noted in the story of Cain and Able.
When did Christians use human sacrifice? LOL!

Since: Dec 07

United States

#124 Feb 27, 2008
1 The man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have produced a man with the help of the LORD."
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Next she bore his brother Abel. Abel became a keeper of flocks, and Cain a tiller of the soil.
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In the course of time Cain brought an offering to the LORD from the fruit of the soil,
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while Abel, for his part, brought one of the best firstlings of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering,
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but on Cain and his offering he did not. Cain greatly resented this and was crestfallen.
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So the LORD said to Cain: "Why are you so resentful and crestfallen?
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2 If you do well, you can hold up your head; but if not, sin is a demon lurking at the door: his urge is toward you, yet you can be his master."
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Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let us go out in the field." When they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
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Then the LORD asked Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" He answered, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?"
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The LORD then said: "What have you done! Listen: your brother's blood cries out to me from the soil!
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Therefore you shall be banned from the soil that opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand.
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If you till the soil, it shall no longer give you its produce. You shall become a restless wanderer on the earth."
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Cain said to the LORD: "My punishment is too great to bear.
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Since you have now banished me from the soil, and I must avoid your presence and become a restless wanderer on the earth, anyone may kill me at sight."
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3 Not so!" the LORD said to him. "If anyone kills Cain, Cain shall be avenged sevenfold." So the LORD put a mark on Cain, lest anyone should kill him at sight.
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4 Cain then left the LORD'S presence and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

“Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ”

Since: Dec 07

Long Island

#125 Feb 27, 2008
Wait a tick...

I FINALLY understand! You just want to be cruel and perpetuate inaccurate stereopypes and use the holy book of your faith to justify your own hatred and bigotry! Even while those who share your faith are literally chomping at the bit to separate themselves from you!

You just want to rile us all up until we funally snap, call you names, get yourself banned for what is OBVIOUSLY harrassment, THEN claim you are an innocent victim and the "ebil paginz" are being mean to you!

My dear, my dear... You are doing more damage to your fellow Christians than you can ever know by being so horrible to other human beings. You are forgetting why Christ became so popular: He preached love. I hope those who share your faith and not your bigotry, are unaffected by what you do to others.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#126 Feb 27, 2008
knit and pray wrote:
So why might I ask would you believe in a religion that has sacrificed millions of people ?
Paganism isn't one religion. Why would you believe in a religion that tortured and killed people who refused to convert? Inquisition anyone? Killed thousands and thousands. Charlemagne, considered one of the Greatest Kings of Europe and slaughtered those who refused to convert to Christianity.

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