What is Ritual Sex?

Nov 2, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: About.com

I keep seeing references to the Great Rite and "ritual sex." I was sure I read somewhere that Wiccans didn't have sex in rituals.

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Ritual sex is when people take their natural and normal human sexuality and dress it up in a lot of pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo for one or more of three reasons:

1) It's the only way they can get anyone to have sex with them;

2) It's they only way they can have sex without feeling guilty about their own desires;

3) They have become so jaded that it's the only way they can make sex at all interesting for themselves anymore.
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achyfi wrote:
Ritual sex is when people take their natural and normal human sexuality and dress it up in a lot of pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo for one or more of three reasons:
1) It's the only way they can get anyone to have sex with them;
2) It's they only way they can have sex without feeling guilty about their own desires;
3) They have become so jaded that it's the only way they can make sex at all interesting for themselves anymore.
Spot on with your comment,i've met many pagans recently met two witches who were barmaids ( such is the intelligence level) could not help but notice how undesirable and butch they were,and the male witches i met were also pretty dam fat and ugly too.There is also though a more serious side to ritual sex when newcomers are swore to secrecy blindfolded then bondaged whipped and then some pervert copulates with them,they call it initiation,i call it abuse.
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Ken Ra wrote:
There are many versions of the Great Rite some are extremely spiritual and NOT for beginners ( dangerous to your future happiness ) others are used as a way for the un-layable to get laid. Surprise! Christianity has its OWN Version!! called the Heiros Garnos.
Please explain"dangerous to your future happiness"? Please also explain "extremely spiritual"? are you confusing extreme sex with spirituality?
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Apr 7, 2014
 
I don't know if I understand any of this, but Pinch 111 I think you are a very clever person and say great things.
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I know the difference between extreme sex and Spirituality. I said spiritual I mean spiritual. Sex is physical, Love is emotional Spiritual is something more that helps connect you to the Divine. We are all connected to the divine but not all of us are aware of it. The Great Rite as I know it, is the connection between the Goddess and the God Linked to the connection between the Man and the Woman linked to the connections of coitus. It brings the Divine into physical reality. Incidentally linking Man and woman together permanently whether or not they are suited for each other. Make a bad choice and you are stuck for the rest of your lives. Try the rite when you cannot pull it off magically and you do not get another chance in this life. NOT for BEGINNERS.! Can there be a Homosexual great rite? I do not know, but it would not be God and Goddess. Be suspicious of anyone who tells you that they have done the rite. It is intense enough and personal enough that those who have done it are uncomfortable talking about it.

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PINCH111 wrote:
<quoted text>Spot on with your comment,i've met many pagans recently met two witches who were barmaids ( such is the intelligence level) could not help but notice how undesirable and butch they were,and the male witches i met were also pretty dam fat and ugly too.There is also though a more serious side to ritual sex when newcomers are swore to secrecy blindfolded then bondaged whipped and then some pervert copulates with them,they call it initiation,i call it abuse.
I have nothing against pagans or Wiccans. My comments apply just as much to "tantric sex", "Satanic sex" and any other attempts to make something mystical out of a penis and a vagina.
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Ken Ra wrote:
I know the difference between extreme sex and Spirituality. I said spiritual I mean spiritual. Sex is physical, Love is emotional Spiritual is something more that helps connect you to the Divine. We are all connected to the divine but not all of us are aware of it. The Great Rite as I know it, is the connection between the Goddess and the God Linked to the connection between the Man and the Woman linked to the connections of coitus. It brings the Divine into physical reality. Incidentally linking Man and woman together permanently whether or not they are suited for each other. Make a bad choice and you are stuck for the rest of your lives. Try the rite when you cannot pull it off magically and you do not get another chance in this life. NOT for BEGINNERS'.! Can there be a Homosexual great rite? I do not know, but it would not be God and Goddess. Be suspicious of anyone who tells you that they have done the rite. It is intense enough and personal enough that those who have done it are uncomfortable talking about it.
"NOT for BEGINNERS" you say.So why do traditionalist covens initiate beginners into their covens with brutal BDSM style sex? are they just a bunch of perverts keen to convert novices to their sick ways?There is no such thing as magic,spirits,gods, goddesses,they exist only in the minds of the believers,it is no accident that research shows that the percentage of "fantasy prone personalities"is much higher within all religious groups than in the population as a whole.I think religious groups do attract perverts who like to abuse their power over others,i also think that Paganism attracts more perverts than other religions because it in itself via its so called sex magic and great rites etc is in fact,truth, perverse.
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joX wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly CShine. Spot on my friend. For the sleazy, perverts and sex-starved individuals out there, that expect being a Witch and joining a Coven; means you have lots of sex and or orgy's: then Wicca is not for you.(sorry to disappoint). The Great Rite is a very sacred and special time for Wiccans (who have spent their life seeking their magical partner) who want to move on and have their own teaching coven. No PHYSICAL sex is involved in a TRUE coven. If that happens to any of you out there then leave and go! Within my religion sex is a symbology between the Goddess and the God. The Great Rite is so overated and its only given to those people, through years of study and spiritual development than can attain this blessing BB Jox
Cunning,liar.
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Kathwynn wrote:
The great Rite is something that should only be done by two people that are lovers. It is a sacred union that when done properly is one of great joy and reverence for the two people in involved.
It is not something to take lightly as many posters have pointed out. The Great Rite is of beauty and sharing on many levels.
Though it does amuse me when christians do think that all Wiccans/witches do is go to orgies. In all the years that I have been a Wiccan I have never heard of nor have I ever been to an orgy. So I really do not know where these good upstanding christians would have heard of Wiccans/Witches having an orgy. As it is not their religion. And would it not be a sin to even acknowledge such going on let alone gossip about something like this?
At the same time many christians that have told me that these do go on. Can never seem to provide an address or a date. Curious. I wonder do christian just make it up.. Naw lying would be a sin.. Right?
I know it is the Illuminati at work.. Yeah that is it.. That is the ticket. Cause every one knows the Illuminati is real.. Yeah that's the ticket..
So can you please describe and explain Gardnerian or Alexandrian initiation leaving nothing out?,have ever witnessed or taken part in any?
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Oh Yea! I want to hear how Kathwynn deals with rituals and nudity and such matters of lust.
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I was initiated Alexandrian in 1969 The Great rite is not until third Degree, if then. Brutal S&M forced sex are not condoned within the religion.. I should expect slurs like this from a religion who's GOD raped Mary without her consent who then murdered his son "Jesus" and then promoted cannibalism " eat of his blood and body " Christianity is an EVIL religion that is only occasionally perverted into doing good.
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Ken Ra wrote:
I was initiated Alexandrian in 1969 The Great rite is not until third Degree, if then. Brutal S&M forced sex are not condoned within the religion.. I should expect slurs like this from a religion who's GOD raped Mary without her consent who then murdered his son "Jesus" and then promoted cannibalism " eat of his blood and body " Christianity is an EVIL religion that is only occasionally perverted into doing good.
No not a slur or even a lie i have read wiccan books and what i say is true.Very stupid but to be expected of you to presume i am Catholic i must say,i have no religion at all and need no religion to guide me through this one and only life i am not that weak.So please describe your Alexandrian initiation.I have spoken to many Wiccans and former Wiccans in research and some described their initiations as hair raising and were not fully warned of what was to come beforehand i also remember one who became all shaky and nuerotic at the mention of initiation.
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Ken Ra wrote:
I was initiated Alexandrian in 1969 The Great rite is not until third Degree, if then. Brutal S&M forced sex are not condoned within the religion.. I should expect slurs like this from a religion who's GOD raped Mary without her consent who then murdered his son "Jesus" and then promoted cannibalism " eat of his blood and body " Christianity is an EVIL religion that is only occasionally perverted into doing good.
You seem to have fallen silent on the subject of your first degree initiation,would you like me to describe it for you and precisely how you were subjected to the blindfold, binding,led like a dog into the circle and the flogging with the scourge and exactly how many strokes you received?
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Jumper The Wise wrote:
Oh Yea! I want to hear how Kathwynn deals with rituals and nudity and such matters of lust.
Well i think you are in for a long wait on that subject,he/she/it tends to get very secretive on the subject.Something to hide perhaps?
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PINCH111 wrote:
<quoted text>Well i think you are in for a long wait on that subject,he/she/it tends to get very secretive on the subject.Something to hide perhaps?
Maybe the winnie?

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<quoted text>'Often abused","easily abused in groups"'Some Traditions have worked out ways of limiting the abuse".So from a Wiccan the truth there is abuse within Wicca.You speak of limiting as if that is enough,its not.
Your bigotry is always is boring and stupid..
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I have a limited tolerance for BS and lies. BTW my First Degree did not include anything sexual nor my Second. In Wicca bad apples to OK run about 1 to 100. From my viewpoint Christianity runs 3 bad to 1 good. With the exception of The Society of Friends. I have never seen a bad apple there.
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Kathwynn wrote:
TROLLIN', TROLLIN' TROLIN' TTTRRROOLLL ONNNN!!!
Trollin, Trollin, Trollin, on the Ribuh!(Proud Mary)

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Ken Ra wrote:
I have a limited tolerance for BS and lies. BTW my First Degree did not include anything sexual nor my Second. In Wicca bad apples to OK run about 1 to 100. From my viewpoint Christianity runs 3 bad to 1 good. With the exception of The Society of Friends. I have never seen a bad apple there.
And like you I have not run into a bad apple. Pinch is not interested in facts. Just his own bigotry. His posts here and on other forums proves this opinion justified.

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Ken Ra wrote:
From my viewpoint Christianity runs 3 bad to 1 good. With the exception of The Society of Friends. I have never seen a bad apple there.
I'd suggest that is because there are far too many people who call themselves "Christians", but in no way practice the Christian faith other than (maybe) going to church on Sunday. If Wicca was as widespread and popular as Christianity, it would have the same percentage of embarrassments. Human nature is what it is.

I do agree that most of the Quakers I've met have been fairly admirable people.

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