Who exactly was Gjoub, and should I trust him?

[Makin Sense]

Hi, Charlie

I would like to assure you that there is NO WAY someone has put any kind of curse or anything on you to make you sick and/or hurt you financially. When someone does a spell, whatever they put out comes back on them also (most people believe that what comes back on them is 3 times more powerful than what they put out). Please do not let anyone talk you into thinking a curse has been put on you - this is the first step in many victimizations.

In my opinion, you are having a life with a lot of very difficult lessons for you. The best way to improve on your life is to #1-Figure out what these lessons are and learn from them,#2-Think positively about the future and visualize your life getting better,#3-Start taking your life back for yourself and become proactive; I know you said you are disabled, but perhaps there is still something you can do, like volunteer to read to children for a library's story hour, or visit with lonely people in an elderly folks home. You may end up meeting other people and end up helping each other, but more importantly, you will build some self-esteem and feel like you are doing something to improve your life.

While there are some real Wiccans, etc. on the internet that are legitimate, there are many more that are not. It is best to avoid them unless you have a SOLID recommendation from someone you really trust that you know in real life. In my experience, magic performed for a stranger has a lot less impact than magic done for one's self or one's friends, anyway. If you are interested in improving your life by magical means, you could study some magic yourself. If your local library has tolerant views, you can find appropriate books there to read. I suggest anything by Scott Cunningham; he is widely regarded to be a good source for information, and also did a good job of explaining the ethics behind magic (which are very important). All you really need to start with are the will to improve your life, and the imagination to visualize. Magic doesn't happen instantly, it works best with repitition.

I hope this is helpful to you, and I wish you the best.

[Clark Griswold]

Wow Charlie, your story is a real bummer. I sympathize with you, but I don't think that all happened because of a curse. Sometimes we just end up victims, and one way or another, like all things, this comes from within. Instead of focusing on breaking a curse, take comfort in the fact that you've bottomed out and that it's now time to start working your way back up the hill. Take a deep breath. Today's a brand new day. Our inner energy is what determines our destiny. Focus yours on the positive. Good luck.

[Sora]

I requested a spell from Doris to help bring my ex boyfriend back.

If you read the instructions carefully, you'll notice that you don't HAVE to summon this "Gjoub" spirit. Doing so only helps add more power to the spell.

Having said that, I don't plan on summoning anything. I know what I want, and my own inner energy should be enough to help it happen (if the spell is indeed real).

I've also not found anyone with a decent answer on this. I'll post back in 5 weeks to let you guys know what happens - even if it's just a bunch of junk mail!

[Clark Griswold]

Sora wrote:

I requested a spell from Doris to help bring my ex boyfriend back.
If you read the instructions carefully, you'll notice that you don't HAVE to summon this "Gjoub" spirit. Doing so only helps add more power to the spell.
Having said that, I don't plan on summoning anything. I know what I want, and my own inner energy should be enough to help it happen (if the spell is indeed real).
I've also not found anyone with a decent answer on this. I'll post back in 5 weeks to let you guys know what happens - even if it's just a bunch of junk mail!

You guys playing with love spells have to understand something... a love spell directed at a particular person goes against nature. I've had 2 spells backfire on me in my life. One was a revenge spell against someone who had wronged me. The end result was it bounced off of him and bit me in in the ass hard. The other was a spell to turn a friend into a lover. She and I weren't meant to be. It did bring us together for a short time, however it was terrible. We simply weren't meant for each other. Had been right, there would have been no need for a spell. Magik may bring someone to you, but it can't change human nature. In both of these instances I was dealing in dark magik. The first spell was cast with the intent to do harm. The other had the intent to influence someone's free will. The only play here for you is focus on bringing positive energy in to your life and let nature take it's course. The other important thing to remember about love spells is: anyone offering to cast a love spell for money is a charlatan... no exceptions. I've learned a lesson from both of the experiences I told you about. Hopefully you will learn from yours too Sora.

[Makin Sense]

Just want to chime in with my two cents. Clark is absolutely right. How would you like it if someone cast a spell on you so that you acted like their puppet? Not a very nice thought, is it? Love spells interfere with another person's free will and are just plain wrong. No matter what your spiritual beliefs are, the "golden rule" is always appropriate: treat others as you wish to be treated.

[Charlie]

If there is anyone out there, who can help me get my luck and health back, I would REALLY appreciate it. I used to have friends who practiced magic, but have lost touch, over the years. I just want what was mine, back. My health, money, power and luck at the casino. It's hard being me. I know this sounds "whiney", but you can't imagine what it's like going from $190,000 a year to $0.00 per year, and, on top of that, having my inheritance ripped from me.

[CShine]

Charlie, hon- this is something you seriously have to come to terms with on your own, and only than can you begin to understand how to 'fix it'- if indeed, that is even the answer.

Only you know. I cannot tell you and I cannot exert my Will on circumstances that are very removed from my own knowledge and understanding.

Would a lawyer represent a case in court from nothing but a heresay letter from a client? No, they would interview the client, research the case, look for outside evidence or perspectives on the matter, and probably much more than that before they ever got to court and argued their client's case.

If some practionor chooses to take this on, you should expect them to attempt to make a thourough understanding of things and mostly guide you through the steps of finding clarity and problem solving, or else, as Clark keeps pointing out, you're only putting a band-aid on a mortal wound.

[The Real Lori]

Charlie, I mean this with love and a firm resolve to be helpful. You have a gambling problem, you need to quit looking at everyone else as the cause of your personal loneliness and lack of friends, and you need to get a lawyer if you think you have been stolen from. Whining and wishing only work in fairy tales.

[sandra]

well my 5 weeks are up got an email from high preistess doris this morning and no her spell did not work she sent me to another website.she said something is blocking her spell from working so thats it she told me to email her back so i did.

[Clark Griswold]

sandra wrote:

well my 5 weeks are up got an email from high preistess doris this morning and no her spell did not work she sent me to another website.she said something is blocking her spell from working so thats it she told me to email her back so i did.

Yes, her bad karma is blocking it.

[Makin Sense]

sandra wrote:

well my 5 weeks are up got an email from high preistess doris this morning and no her spell did not work she sent me to another website.she said something is blocking her spell from working so thats it she told me to email her back so i did.

Please don't fall for this. This is a typical way to victimize someone. Before you know it, greater and greater amounts of money will be demanded to "remove the block" and eventually someone will convince you that you have been cursed and that the only way to "cure" it is to hand over your life savings.

[sandra]

maybe so tell me clark did the spell work for you.and my spell was not a love spell more of a good luck spell.

[DaBroad]

sandra wrote:

maybe so tell me clark did the spell work for you.and my spell was not a love spell more of a good luck spell.

Do you know a Maeve Riordan? She's also from Trinidand & Tobago, and claimed she was bringing all sorts of bad curses on us on a different thread.

[sandra]

sorry dabroad don't know that person i join on june 15th 2009 and never heard that name before.

[Clark Griswold]

sandra wrote:

maybe so tell me clark did the spell work for you.and my spell was not a love spell more of a good luck spell.

Things have been going well for me lately Sandra. Not sure what you're saying... if you're telling me you sent me positive energy I thank you.

[Strawbery]

In reply to this message! I second this! I fear for those interfering with others free will. I just left a comment like this for someone who said they "wanted" this man so bad...blah blah blah and they did a spell. I told her it is okay to ask for the "qualities" you want or some type of growth for yourself, but NEVER EVER interfere with another person's heart because one is playing with fire...and it may seem okay to begin with, but...(I don't need to finish this)...

I am glad you wrote this and more need to understand this nature of the law of three

Blessed be,
Strawbery

Makin Sense wrote:

Okay, as a long-time practitioner of magic, I am going to give you my opinion, though you may not like it.
First and foremost, I would like to say that I recommend against this action. Even if you are only taking away someone's anger, or other feelings, it is still interfering with their free will, and is therefore just as bad as doing a forceful love spell on them.
Sometimes, even though you feel a fateful connection with someone, it does not necessarily mean that you are meant to be together. Maybe the lesson you are supposed to learn is to have the self-control to be able to not be with this person, even if you love them with all your heart.
Instead of summoning an unknown spirit to help you with a spell, I would instead suggest trying to get in touch with your spirit guide (or perhaps with someone important to you who has already passed on) to try to get some good advice. If you need help getting in touch with your spirit guide, write back, I know a good meditation for that which would probably help.
On a more personal (non-spiritual) level, sometimes it is the best thing for us to be alone for awhile without a significant other. Many people have their best and most important personal growth during times of being alone. They can really get to know themselves, and come to understand their purpose in life when not distracted by a love relationship.
Let me reiterate, because I feel it is very important, it is always a bad idea to interfere with someone's free will.
Hope this has been helpful...

[bondgrrrl]

The Real Lori wrote:

Charlie, I mean this with love and a firm resolve to be helpful. You have a gambling problem, you need to quit looking at everyone else as the cause of your personal loneliness and lack of friends, and you need to get a lawyer if you think you have been stolen from. Whining and wishing only work in fairy tales.

Lori, I understand and appreciate the the understanding you are trying to have, but I have seen nothing in any of Charlie's posts to indicate that he is a gambler. Please think twice before posting. Things like this are how fights get started.

[The Real Lori]

He stated he had problems losing money at a casino...if it is a habit, and he is habitually unlucky, that certainly sounds like a problem. He said it, I didn't.

[Liz]

Arguments start because people, like many on this site, use the opportunity to chastise others for having certain beliefs and make fun.

I haven't read on this post, one question to indicate that someone wanted an opinion of whetether or not they were being taken advantage of or if the spel they requested is stupid, yet and still there are many opinions focused on what other should be doing and what not...

For once I would like to see posts respecting another's beliefs ..If you can't answer the question that is posted.. Perhaps silence is best.

[Makin Sense]

Liz wrote:

Arguments start because people, like many on this site, use the opportunity to chastise others for having certain beliefs and make fun.
I haven't read on this post, one question to indicate that someone wanted an opinion of whetether or not they were being taken advantage of or if the spel they requested is stupid, yet and still there are many opinions focused on what other should be doing and what not...
For once I would like to see posts respecting another's beliefs ..If you can't answer the question that is posted.. Perhaps silence is best.

And yet, it's okay for you to chastise others and tell them how you want them to act, huh?