Who exactly was Gjoub, and should I t...

Who exactly was Gjoub, and should I trust him?

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“Searching For Serenity.”

Since: Mar 09

225, Louisiana.

#1 Mar 30, 2009
In a desperate state of pain, I came across a website. It is called Spells4Free.com I think? Well they said they were having this special, for signing up for her newsletters she would do one spell for you, for free. Almost whatever you want. Normally I wouldn't trust such a thing and for so many reasons but I wasn't being rational. The person I hold dearest to my heart left me. You see I never gave him time to himself, I was always like be here. Ya know? I just always wanted him around. He used to love it but now he says he can't take it anymore, he needs his space. Well that would be fine but he was saying it would probably be years till he was ready again. I didn't know how he truly felt about me. && I was afraid that when he was 'ready' it wouldn't be me.I know he is the only one for me, I knew it before I met him. He always said the same but I suppose having to be with someone no matter what you want can make you lose sight of who the things you once liked about them. I mean it was no longer 'Yay I can spend time with her' but 'I have to be with her there is nothing I can do' Even if you didn't need your space, knowing it wouldn't matter if you did makes you feel terrible. I knew he loved me before, because I know him like I know myself. But I didn't know how he felt anymore. I came across that and told the woman my story, our names and birth dates. However I made sure to make it EXTREMELY clear that I didn't want a forced love spell, I would NEVER. I simply wanted a spell that would help rid him of the 'moment feelings' is what I call them. Like when you get really angry at something someone does and you seriously think you want nothing to do with them anymore. You really need them but you are so bent on being angry that it is hiding what you truly want from even yourself? In that case the spell would have not taken away the anger completely, but lessen it. Just enough for the person to realize how they truly feel, that they were only angry but they do need that person. Well she e-mailed me and said she had just cast it but she gave me a ritual to do within 72 hours of her casting the spell, to make the spell work faster and more effectively. This ritual, was to invoke Gjoub. I have seen plenty of people on forums say that they had done this as well, the free spell thing. They all say it worked so amazingly, but it's forums so you never know. I have never heard of Gjoub, just that he was an old witch or something. Do you know? Should I trust him? The whole thing?

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“Searching For Serenity.”

Since: Mar 09

225, Louisiana.

#2 Mar 30, 2009
Oh and also I seen him described as 'A spirit summoned for spells of love'
Like I said I don't want a forced love spell, so this is scaring me. If you read this and want to know how the ritual goes I will tell you, it's nothing big but I'm just so paranoid.
Makin Sense

United States

#3 Mar 30, 2009
Okay, as a long-time practitioner of magic, I am going to give you my opinion, though you may not like it.

First and foremost, I would like to say that I recommend against this action. Even if you are only taking away someone's anger, or other feelings, it is still interfering with their free will, and is therefore just as bad as doing a forceful love spell on them.

Sometimes, even though you feel a fateful connection with someone, it does not necessarily mean that you are meant to be together. Maybe the lesson you are supposed to learn is to have the self-control to be able to not be with this person, even if you love them with all your heart.

Instead of summoning an unknown spirit to help you with a spell, I would instead suggest trying to get in touch with your spirit guide (or perhaps with someone important to you who has already passed on) to try to get some good advice. If you need help getting in touch with your spirit guide, write back, I know a good meditation for that which would probably help.

On a more personal (non-spiritual) level, sometimes it is the best thing for us to be alone for awhile without a significant other. Many people have their best and most important personal growth during times of being alone. They can really get to know themselves, and come to understand their purpose in life when not distracted by a love relationship.

Let me reiterate, because I feel it is very important, it is always a bad idea to interfere with someone's free will.

Hope this has been helpful...

“everything she touches changes”

Since: Sep 08

Nanaimo

#4 Mar 30, 2009
Makin Sense wrote:
Okay, as a long-time practitioner of magic, I am going to give you my opinion, though you may not like it.
First and foremost, I would like to say that I recommend against this action. Even if you are only taking away someone's anger, or other feelings, it is still interfering with their free will, and is therefore just as bad as doing a forceful love spell on them.
Sometimes, even though you feel a fateful connection with someone, it does not necessarily mean that you are meant to be together. Maybe the lesson you are supposed to learn is to have the self-control to be able to not be with this person, even if you love them with all your heart.
Instead of summoning an unknown spirit to help you with a spell, I would instead suggest trying to get in touch with your spirit guide (or perhaps with someone important to you who has already passed on) to try to get some good advice. If you need help getting in touch with your spirit guide, write back, I know a good meditation for that which would probably help.
On a more personal (non-spiritual) level, sometimes it is the best thing for us to be alone for awhile without a significant other. Many people have their best and most important personal growth during times of being alone. They can really get to know themselves, and come to understand their purpose in life when not distracted by a love relationship.
Let me reiterate, because I feel it is very important, it is always a bad idea to interfere with someone's free will.
Hope this has been helpful...
Very well said, you are makin sense, lol. I second your advice. I also recommend looking into a co-dependency support group.

“Searching For Serenity.”

Since: Mar 09

225, Louisiana.

#5 Mar 31, 2009
Makin Sense wrote:
Okay, as a long-time practitioner of magic, I am going to give you my opinion, though you may not like it.
First and foremost, I would like to say that I recommend against this action. Even if you are only taking away someone's anger, or other feelings, it is still interfering with their free will, and is therefore just as bad as doing a forceful love spell on them.
Sometimes, even though you feel a fateful connection with someone, it does not necessarily mean that you are meant to be together. Maybe the lesson you are supposed to learn is to have the self-control to be able to not be with this person, even if you love them with all your heart.
Instead of summoning an unknown spirit to help you with a spell, I would instead suggest trying to get in touch with your spirit guide (or perhaps with someone important to you who has already passed on) to try to get some good advice. If you need help getting in touch with your spirit guide, write back, I know a good meditation for that which would probably help.
On a more personal (non-spiritual) level, sometimes it is the best thing for us to be alone for awhile without a significant other. Many people have their best and most important personal growth during times of being alone. They can really get to know themselves, and come to understand their purpose in life when not distracted by a love relationship.
Let me reiterate, because I feel it is very important, it is always a bad idea to interfere with someone's free will.
Hope this has been helpful...
I know, trust me. I have thought about it plenty and realized how wrong I was. I was just in a very irrational state of mind. I had been up for days straight so worried & scared. I was restless and emotional.

I had finally fallen asleep and when I woke up I thought about it a whole lot, but it didn't take me long to realize how wrong it was. & I know about the time to ones self very well, I always had my time. He worked 12 hours a day and hardly got a day off. When he wasn't here I always took that time to do for myself rather than just think about him. I would meditate and focus on my inner self solemnly. It was just so sudden I broke down instantly, thinking of him and him only.

Thank you very much for that though, if I had not been able to get some rest I would have needed that a lot.

About that meditation, I would really like to know it. I believe that would help a lot, if you don't mind telling me.
My e-mail is [email protected] or you can just reply to this post if you would like.

Thank you very much for everything.
Makin Sense

United States

#6 Mar 31, 2009
Hi, SpringsSakura
Glad you got some rest, that can really help.

Here is a link to a meditation that is very similar to the one I have used.
http://www.paganspath.com/meta/sprtmed.htm
In my meditation, I use the visualization of slowly walking down a path to a hidden garden that is beyond a gate. Sorry to get lazy on you, I had typed up my own meditation, but now I can't find it, and didn't want to type the whole thing again.

Don't worry if it doesn't work right away. For many people, meditation takes practice.

If you want more help in this area, there is a really good book called How to Meet and Work with Spirit Guides by Ted Andrews.

Good luck with everything.
jenna

Detroit, MI

#7 Apr 9, 2009
the weirdest thing is that!
i did the same thing
but even though im having the same problem as you with my guy
and hes with another girl right now
but i didnt ask her to help me with him
because iv already had my cards tell me we will be together along with a experenced phyic so i think
i just need my time to grow as well as he does even though i hate every min apart. i asked this woman from that website a dif thing
not about love it was because
every sence my grandmas passing i have knowtessed signs and stuff alot things i cant just ignore so i asked her if she knew a spell to help me understand better or find my guidence to my inner capabilitys or whatever just so i can see the msg clear basicly and she sent me the same msg about the same spirt. so im a bit lost why that sprit and why can he be used for love and for guidence thats a bit confusing
moses

Tokyo, Japan

#8 Apr 18, 2009
i have contacted MS DORIS to help me cus i have a lady that i love so much and she loves me too but i am a foreigner in her country and the only way i can have my docs leagal is to marry her but anytime i tell her about marriage she tlls me she is noy ready. can anyone advice me as to what i can do to win her thoughts on marriage?

by the way doris told me to invoke this same GJOUB for help but i have no idea about anything.

can someone tell me what to do? write to me on
[email protected]

THANKS

“Searching For Serenity.”

Since: Mar 09

225, Louisiana.

#9 Apr 18, 2009
jenna wrote:
the weirdest thing is that!
i did the same thing
but even though im having the same problem as you with my guy
and hes with another girl right now
but i didnt ask her to help me with him
because iv already had my cards tell me we will be together along with a experenced phyic so i think
i just need my time to grow as well as he does even though i hate every min apart. i asked this woman from that website a dif thing
not about love it was because
every sence my grandmas passing i have knowtessed signs and stuff alot things i cant just ignore so i asked her if she knew a spell to help me understand better or find my guidence to my inner capabilitys or whatever just so i can see the msg clear basicly and she sent me the same msg about the same spirt. so im a bit lost why that sprit and why can he be used for love and for guidence thats a bit confusing
I am not very sure if the whole thing is real or not. I know I've seen a few people that have done it say that it was a scam; that after the five weeks she just sends a bunch of advertisements to your e-mail. It has not been five weeks since I received it so I do not yet know.
My sweetheart came back about 2 or 3 days after I got that e-mail & at first I was paranoid and thought maybe it was because of that & maybe she did a forced love spell anyway.
& it hurt to think of it that way.
However I have been trying to get in touch with my spirit guides, I haven't technically heard any of them yet. But every time I do the meditation I get this warm feeling that just tells me he is back for the right reasons & not because of a free online spell caster.
I know it wasn't a forced spell I asked for but I do not know the priestess and she had all the information she would need for any spell so it could have easily been forced.
This made me think a whole lot on the topic.
My conclusion and advice to you is don't give someone online all your information because you never know what type of magic they are going to do.
I still have not connected with my spirit guides in some senses but I can feel them with me everywhere I go and I may not have heard them speak but when I do the meditation I find solace and answers to whatever my problems may be. I highly recommend that if you are looking for answers to anything,you should at least give it a try. I always feel much better after my meditation even the times I feel I did not find what I was looking for.(Which is very uncommon)
I cannot wait to be able to sense my guides, the excitement and solace I get just tells me they are there. If I am right, and they are here for me then they are there for you as well with answers to any questions you may have. A spirit guide can be anyone at all, who knows maybe your grandmother or someone else once held dear to you.
I'm sure if you just give it a try you won't be disappointed.:)
The whole Gjoub thing, I am not personally sure who he was or if he was even real but everyone that has asked for anything from that priestess has received that e-mail so I'm sure she has said that for plenty of different situations. Maybe he is made up, maybe he is real & not who she makes him out to be or maybe he is just like a spirit guide, plenty of answers to plenty of situations. I'm not sure at all.
Charlie

United States

#10 Apr 19, 2009
I thought that, since there were some knowlegable people here, that I would ask, if anyone knows how to pronounce Gjoub. I asked for a spell to help me get my money back, that someone had taken from me. I was given a spell and told to invoke Gjoub. In the spell, it gives me Gjoub's name, to invoke, but I have no idea how to pronounce it. Is it like "JOBE", or "JOWB" or what? I'm not being argumentative, or trying to make fun, but I just don't know and don't want to invoke the wrong spirit.
My ex-wife took everything from me, when I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Now I can't work, and have nothing. I had retired and had a nice income, from my businesses, but she took them all, PLUS sold my car.
The lawyers said that since she sold it, before we'd filed for divorce, it was legal, because it was in both of our names. ANYWAY, I just want my back, what I had gained before she took it from me. LOL Of course a little more, wouldn't hurt.:)
smiley

Canada

#11 May 2, 2009
well i contacted doris on email and she said that she had cast a spell for my problem to bring a lover close to me. My boyfriend's family are just in the way. she told me to go ahead and light incense and call upon Gjoub but i'm scared too. reason behind it is that what if ???? what if he or she stays behind and makes banging sounds at night or lights go on and off? i'm really scared of that cuz my gf did the ouija board at her house and things happend and they never leave!! when doris said that she casted a spell for me, is this good enough and leave it like that? need an answer so i dont have to do it alone. and what about going over to a friend's house and doing it there. can i do that? my friend said she will do hers and then i do mine. what do u guys say out there?

bzediva

AOL

#12 May 13, 2009
I received my e-mail today from the High Prietest Doris. WOW! I didn't expect to receive such instructions!

I would really like to know if anyone has completed their 5 weeks waiting period and what are the positive and negative results, if any?

Also, is there anyone out there who "DID NOT" do the ritual and still receive the results they were hoping for?

Please send feel free to share your experience with me by sending me at an e-mail:
bzediva @aol.com.... knowing that this is something positive could make a world of difference! Thank you everyone and God bless you all with much LOVE, SUCCESS and a life time of HAPPINESS!!!! NEVER STOP BELIEVING!
Liz

AOL

#13 May 13, 2009
I have received my instructions But I am also waiting to hear how others have fared with their spells.
I have researched and many seem to be happy.
I am eagerly awaiting my 72 hours. Can't wait to get mine done so that I can sleep peacefully finally realize positive results.
Please post your results ASAP
Thanks
Peace and Blessings
Jessica

Preston, UK

#14 May 14, 2009
I too have come across this spell with Doris. I am open minded, as I am willing to try anything to help my situation!! It's only been almost 48 hours and so far no results. But I will wait and see :)
Lori

Palm Harbor, FL

#15 May 29, 2009
I cast this same spell with this same service
spells4free. Has anyone got any results at all?
I have tried other things similar in the past and with those the results have been nothing. So I am hopeing this one maybe different but my luck in everything i seem to do seems pretty bad my entire life LOL.
Liz

AOL

#16 May 29, 2009
Well it has been 2 weeks and nothing of any major significance has happened. Maybe the only change that I have noticed is that I don't hurt quite so much anymore and that I am in kind of "Whatever" mode.

I can at least get through my day with out hurting and thinking of him constantly so if that means it's working...then it is.

Please don't get me wrong..If he called and said let's do it I want you back...I am so there!!!! but I am ok if it takes a little longer...HE'LL BE BACK!!!!

“everything she touches changes”

Since: Sep 08

Nanaimo

#18 May 31, 2009
I really feel the need to stress to everyone who is trying these free online spells: if you seek the answers to your problems from outside, you will never find what you seek. All the answers and all the power that you need is found within yourselves. You are more powerful than you may believe. Once you are truly empowered, you will find that it is much harder for others to hurt you and it is much easier to manifest your own destiny.
Tailkinker

Holland, MI

#19 May 31, 2009
I wonder how many people on this thread are robo-posters that are trying to advertise this site?

To any of you guys who are real. Alot of your stories sound to me like you need to do pathwork to figure out what you are doing that may be attracting unhappiness or problems into your lives that are helping to make these issues more difficult.

I had been (and am still having) some troubles in my life, and I have been noticing more and more all these negative things I am doing that makes these issues less possible to deal with. So many good friends have advised me to do a great deal of soul searching and pathwork to help me see what I am doing that is counter-productive. And then to help me resolve to seek a better outlook, and better ways to do things.

It hasn't caused an instant change, but it has shown me a path to making the changes that I need. We are all growing all the time, and every little negative, un-helpful, or counter-productive choice we make brings us a step closer to real growth and real personal strength.

Blessed Be, I hope this helps a little.

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#20 May 31, 2009
Tailkinker wrote:
I wonder how many people on this thread are robo-posters that are trying to advertise this site?
Sure seems like that doesn't it? Strange that this one thread gets started and all of a sudden 6 new people pop up out of nowhere... all having questions about this scammer witch.
bondgrrrl wrote:
I really feel the need to stress to everyone who is trying these free online spells: if you seek the answers to your problems from outside, you will never find what you seek. All the answers and all the power that you need is found within yourselves. You are more powerful than you may believe. Once you are truly empowered, you will find that it is much harder for others to hurt you and it is much easier to manifest your own destiny.
Right on Bondgrrl. Invoking spirits to work spells is nonsense. And do you think it makes any difference if you substitute a spanish olive for an eye of knewt in your recipe? It all comes from within. However... if you truly believe in the power of this Gjoab or Gandolph or Frodo, this belief will strengthen your focus, and no spell will ever work unless you believe it will. So I guess it comes down to whatever floats your boat. Myself... If I was going to believe that there were spirits to invoke with spells, I'd probably rather just buy into the whole christianity nonsense instead, as they've got a much larger support group..and I hear those church picnics are a great place to get laid.
Tailkinker

Holland, MI

#21 May 31, 2009
Clark Griswold wrote:
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..and I hear those church picnics are a great place to get laid.
It might be a great place to get laid, but will it be a great lay? After all everyone knows pagans are better lovers, lol.

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