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Bruce

Santa Clara, CA

#1 Jun 6, 2010
Most people are ignorant and think that Messianic Jews are not Jews. However, this is oviously false. It is OUR Nation and at the end of the age, ALL of Isra’el who will inhabit The Holy Land will ALL be Messianic Jews. As a messianic Jew, I am glad to proclaim that while I believe most of Christianity today is in typical error in-that it stripped itself away from its True Jewishness and made it a seperate Religion, I do believe that those “Christians” who love and pray for Isra’el and The Jewish people will also be saved. They will be the ones coming from the other nations to receive Torah from G-d through Y’shua (Isaiah 2:2-4, 66:23, ZecharY-H 14:16-21). With all of this in mind let us focus on this:

Gen 12:1 Now YY had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Psa 122:6 Pray for the peace of Yerushalayim: they shall prosper that love thee.

So enemies of Isr’ael and The Jewish people (The Isra’elites-Ruled by The Tribe of Yhudah Genesis 49:10), only boast and act top their own eternal destruction from G-d. May G-d make Yeshu`a return soon and Establish His Kingdom in Yerushalayim.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
ex-mess

Hoschton, GA

#2 Jun 8, 2010
Bruce wrote:
Most people are ignorant and think that Messianic Jews are not Jews. However, this is oviously false. It is OUR Nation and at the end of the age, ALL of Isra’el who will inhabit The Holy Land will ALL be Messianic Jews. As a messianic Jew, I am glad to proclaim that while I believe most of Christianity today is in typical error in-that it stripped itself away from its True Jewishness and made it a seperate Religion, I do believe that those “Christians” who love and pray for Isra’el and The Jewish people will also be saved. They will be the ones coming from the other nations to receive Torah from G-d through Y’shua (Isaiah 2:2-4, 66:23, ZecharY-H 14:16-21). With all of this in mind let us focus on this:
Gen 12:1 Now YY had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Psa 122:6 Pray for the peace of Yerushalayim: they shall prosper that love thee.
So enemies of Isr’ael and The Jewish people (The Isra’elites-Ruled by The Tribe of Yhudah Genesis 49:10), only boast and act top their own eternal destruction from G-d. May G-d make Yeshu`a return soon and Establish His Kingdom in Yerushalayim.
Prayerfully,
Bruce
Yes, in Bruce Almighty's opinion, those Jewish rabbis don't believe messianics are Jews. Guess what - they are no longer Jews. Jews who convert to idolatry are apostates. Not my ruling, this is what the Torah says, and this what the rabbis say.
Bruce

AOL

#3 Jun 9, 2010
Jewish rabbis are not G-d and thus are not infallable. No ONLY source of ABSOLUTE TRUTH is G-d, Yeshua and all of His Biblical Prophets. This thread was made for the intention of prayer and meditation. The fact that you have no respect for that by barging in here to disrupt its intent shows even more what falsehood you believe in. Furthermore, there is nothing in The Torah or tanakh that suggests that those who believe in HaMoshiach are "apostates". More falsehood from you.
Prayerfully,
Bruce
Bruce

AOL

#4 Jun 9, 2010
How dare you. This thread was made with the intention for serious prayer and meditation. Not for blasphemous ranting and raving. The rabbis are nog g-d, nor any of The Biblical Prophets. Therefore, they are fallable and thus cannot be my authority. My Authority is G-d, Yeshua dna all of His Biblical Prophets. And it is more falsehood from yuou that "The Torah Says" belief in HaMoshiach is idolatry. YOu ahve absolutely no SCRIPTURAL verses to justify that.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
ex-mess

Hoschton, GA

#5 Jun 9, 2010
How dare you take the Tanakh and use it for your idolatrous ravings. Your whining is really laughable. Serious meditation - yeah right...like the Levites 'sacrificing' themselves so you christians can meditate about your obsession with blood. You've said it in the past - you only take the parts of Torah that YOU have determined are correct, That is blasphemy.
Bruce

AOL

#6 Jun 9, 2010
CHANA: How dare you take the Tanakh and use it for your idolatrous ravings.

BRUCE: I have only treated The Tanakh with the utmost of respect and reverence. This charge is just more slander from you.

CHANA: Your whining is really laughable. Serious meditation - yeah right...like the Levites 'sacrificing' themselves so you christians can meditate about your obsession with blood.

BRUCE: Why don’t you bust into some Messianic Congregations and yell at them in the middle of their services? I wouldn’t put it past you.

CHANA: You've said it in the past - you only take the parts of Torah that YOU have determined are correct, That is blasphemy.

BRUCE: This is yet more slander from you. You are only making more and more slander. Is there anything you say that is not slander??? I have never said what you claimed I said. If you can quote anything i’ve stated in Topix xince I started posting here last year, then please do. Until you can do this, then I am calling this charge nothing more than slander. The more you slander people, the less credibility you have. I never, ever said or implied that ANY of The Torah is in any question regarding its integrity! So go through all the hundreds of pages in Topix since last year and look for yourself. But you don’t believe in being able to back up your slander before you state it. If you could, then it wouldn’t be slander.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Miami, FL

#7 May 14, 2011
[b]Formal vote being planed in just four months by the UN to create a Palestinian state

This time the ‘ovens’ will be turned on by Hamas, Fatah and the UN [/b]

- Dr. Laurie Roth Thursday, May 12, 2011

"While all the distraction of Obama’s latest, contrived birth certificate, debt ceiling arguments, Osama Bin Laden’s demise and who might be the next President, we have a potential death knell circling our best ally in the Middle East, Israel. Anyone home?

Two deadly Muslim terrorist groups have now combined, Hamas and Fatah. For many years they were at each others throats, but now have joined. They have now set their weapons and rage aside to become one group that will run the ‘Palestinian state,’ steal more land from the Jews, and plan the deaths of countless more.

Just a small little detail with all the ‘getting along’‘peace making’ fun between these two groups Hamas and Fatah. They both have a written and declared goal to exterminate and destroy Israel. They also both have a bloody and prolific history of attacking and murdering Israelis. A two state solution effort is old news and has been put on the table again and again and again. Now, we see three crime families emerging, Hamas, Fatah, and the UN. Will the United States become the 4th crime family with Obama at the helm?

The horror of this time is not only the unification of these two Muslim terror groups, but a formal vote being planed in just four months by the UN to create a Palestinian state, manipulating, no doubt putting endless international and media pressure on Israel to give away even more land. They will be pressured, if not ‘forced’ by the UN to give away the heart of Jerusalem and ‘more land for contrived peace’ AGAIN.

The plan and pressure of this UN vote coming up in four months is to gut Jerusalem and give it to the Palestinians, give over the Golan Heights, much of Galilee and Negev. This would force Israel back to the 1967 lines, while Hamas and Fatah are planning the rest of their demise.

The playbook is old and boring already. Obama, the UN and even Hamas and Fatah all are standing with their ‘liberation’‘stand for the underdog’ costumes on. They have been standing against evil Apartheid all these years and it is only right to take back major chunks of land from Israel, while the world and media looks on in self righteous satisfaction.“You all get a whole bucket of victim candy for best ‘Destroy Israel costumes.’

This is a deadly and serious time for Israel. Israel must stand against ANY more schemes from ANYONE to give away one more inch of land anywhere in their country! No matter what the cost to Israel is, they must stand boldly with God and for what is right for them! It is time for a political and timely response given to Obama, the UN, Hamas and Fatah regardless of any vote, Muslim decree, meeting, threat list, or Obama wish list is:

We are a sovereign nation and will never again consider giving away more land. We will ONLY consider talking of a two state solution when Hamas and Fatah totally renounce Muslim terror and murders against Jews, rewrites their charters to say that Israel has the right to exist next to them, then advertise this to the Muslim world, and stops demanding another shred of fought for sovereign Israeli land.

Since none of this will happen, the only response to Obama, the UN, Hamas and Fatah from Israeli leadership should be: KISS MY JEWISH GRITS!"

Just Who is this Annie Oakley of the airwaves?
Laurie Roth has a Ph.D. in counseling and a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, is happily married and currently resides in Washington State. She is a singer/songwriter with five CD albums to her credit. She plays the piano, keyboard, and violin and has a voice that can penetrate your very soul. 
 

Laurie is also an accomplished Author, Cartoonist, and Artist.

She can be reached at: [email protected]
yon

Miami, FL

#8 May 19, 2011
Obama says Palestine must be based in 1967 borders

"President Barack Obama is endorsing the Palestinians' demand for their future state to be based on the borders that existed before the 1967 Middle East war, in a move that will likely infuriate Israel. Israel says the borders of a Palestinian state have to be determined through negotiations.

In a speech outlining U.S. policy in the Middle East and North Africa, Obama on Thursday sided with the Palestinians' opening position a day ahead of a visit to Washington by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu is vehemently opposed to referring to the 1967 borders.

Until Thursday, the U.S. position had been that the Palestinian goal of a state based on the 1967 borders, with agreed land swaps, should be reconciled with Israel's desire for a secure Jewish state through negotiations."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_re_...
yon

United States

#9 Jun 28, 2011
Maybe doomsday is near

Bible prophecy may have a bad name in the light of Harold Camping's misguided date-setting, but the biggest sign of the end may have been overlooked in all the rapture hysteria of the May 21st weekend.

Once again, we saw the U.S. hit with a series of deadly superstorms following Barack Obama's pledge to return Israel to pre-1967 borders. Just days after Obama insisted Israel must give up lands it won through military victory with its enemies, some 200 people were killed by a tornado in Joplin, Mo.

There's a pattern here.

We saw it in Katrina, when George Bush forced Israel's withdrawal from Gaza. In fact, as everyone from Israeli rabbis to U.S. senators have noted, it seems to happen every single time the U.S. pressures Israel to divide the land. The phenomenon was best documented by Bill Koenig, author of "Eye to Eye: Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel."

Koenig points out that nine of the 10 costliest insurance events in U.S. history followed dramatic calls by U.S. officials for Israel to make land concessions in bids for peace with its neighbors. He points out with startling detail how six of the seven costliest hurricanes in U.S. history followed such events. He points out how three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history followed such developments.

Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, even terrorist attacks have hit America often within 24 hours of calls by U.S. officials for Israel to withdraw from Jewish land.

What does this have to do with prophecy?.........READ MORE

http://superstore.wnd.com/
yon

Union, NJ

#10 Oct 17, 2011
And then there is the State of Israel....basically a religion without G-d as it refuses to speak the name of it's creator and rejects his Prime Emissary and later day apostles. Preferring instead to rely on military alliances with modern day Egypt, figurative and literal. But now with the head of it's the chief literal ally deposed it's stuck with a Sunni Muslim as the head of its last ally who embraces homosexuality in high government positions and as a law of the land.

http://atlah.org/2011/09/15/obama-is-a-sunni-...
yon

Union, NJ

#11 Oct 17, 2011
So are we supposed to pray for Israel or unrepentant rabbinical Jews?
Bruce

AOL

#12 Oct 17, 2011
YON: So are we supposed to pray for Israel or unrepentant rabbinical Jews?

BRUCE: We are supposed to pray for all of the above. All TRUE believers should do this! Remember, despite Isra'el constantly going astray in their history, YHWH Said His Covenant with them is ETERNAL. Thus, He is patient with them and eventually, He will Redeem Isra'el. He chose Isra'el to bring salvation into the world. So should we pray for Isra'el and her people??? WE MUST! Also, we must see Isra'el and her people FOR WHAT THEY WILL BE, and NOT WHAT THEY PRESENTLY ARE, for these reasons.

Prayerfully,
Bruce

yon

United States

#13 Oct 25, 2011
It astonishes me that given what Jews have been thru. particularly with Nazis, that they have not made a major effort via Hollywood and the Western Press to expose what Nazism was all about. I've just watched an expose on the Military Channel concerning Nazism and the Occult. and it struck me that the reason that Democrats don't really expose the worst about the Republicans and vice versa, is to expose their own corruption and hypocrisy. And as I maintain, the refusal of the so called "Judeo-Christian" combine that refuses to speak the name of Almighty Elohim Yahweh, they leave a wide open field for the flourishing of occult religions. including the Nazis, Masons and Muslims and others, thus contributing to the Devils work. And they and their damnable traditions are without excuse.
Bruce

AOL

#14 Oct 25, 2011
Yon, I’ll add a thought to what you’ve just said: Maybe it would be better for the Judeo-Christian presence in the world to FIRST work more at living faithfully to the faith BEFORE they work at Pronouncing The Holy Name. Perhaps reciting The Holy Name by peoples that are not yet prepared in-terms of Holiness to Pronounce it, puts His Name through the mud. Likewise, The Name could be made fun of by Hollywood, and I certainly would not put it passed them to do such and evil and vile thing. So maybe there are times when The Name should be more reserved for Those Truly seeking Him.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Oct 25, 2011
Making up one unbiblical tradition to continue the defense of another is lie on top of rabbinic/hellenistic lie. I guess you'll never get it. You might as well praise allah and keep arguing with other Jews and Xtians rather than publically prise the name of your own Creator.
Bruce

AOL

#16 Oct 25, 2011
YON: Making up one unbiblical tradition to continue the defense of another is lie on top of rabbinic/hellenistic lie. I guess you'll never get it. You might as well praise allah and keep arguing with other Jews and Xtians rather than publically prise the name of your own Creator.

BRUCE: I think you are an extremist in the negative sense. Sometimes when people take things too far, they pervert the original intent of The Commandments.

Think about this: Imagine telling Hollywood about The name of YHWH. Would you put it past them to mock His Name??? I wouldn’t. Therefore, it might be better till wait till if and when they humble their attitudes more respectfully first. I would hate to be the one who Told them of The Holy Name if they are just going to mock it.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

United States

#17 Oct 26, 2011
Bruce

AOL

#18 Oct 26, 2011
I’ve indicated above that on this issue, I can see both sides of the argument:

A) I would feel bad if I proclaimed The Name of YHWH to Hollywood and then they made fun of it. That would make me wonder if I did the right thing.

B) But I can also see the argument that we are supposed to Proclaim The Name of YHWH to all. It is their responsibility what they do with it.

So, I guess being human, I don’t see this issue as an easy one in black and white the way you do. All one can do is to pray earnestly to YHWH and ask Him to give us Wisdom in all situations what to do.

If you still feel I am an apostate for this, then so be it as far as what you believe.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

United States

#19 Oct 26, 2011
He can take care of himself. We're supposed to talk about the truth
yon

United States

#20 Oct 26, 2011
Blessed if we do and cursed if we don't. Very extreme.

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