Comet? Elenin - The end of days?

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yon

Hollywood, FL

#1 Jul 7, 2011
http://watchmanscry.com/audio/Nathan_070511.m...
http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-...
"This is going to be the most extraordinary communication so fasten your seatbelts; we are in for a rough ride. I have known in my heart for months that I would have to make a communication like this but had no idea it would be this soon. Back in January, while investigating the underground city that is alleged to have been built under the new Denver Airport, reported on by the former governor Jesse Ventura, I put the puzzle together and came to the conclusion that a planetary event was in store for us in 2012.
Today I am presenting rock solid information; it does not get any better when NASA is your source. What you are about to read and see is happening. Last night, looking at a NASA mathematical model of comet Elenin, I found out that a large celestial body has already penetrated the solar system and is on course for a near and possibly horrific encounter with the earth in the fall of 2011. What we do not know is the size and mass of comet Elenin though I have no doubt that it is known by the authorities.
Elenin is presently being tracked as it goes through the asteroid belt on its way into the inner solar system. I am truly sorry to have to be the bearer of such grave and threatening news but the source, NASA, is impeccable. We have an incoming mass (what might possibly be a neutron star) coming in and it will do a hard turn around the sun like any comet would, crossing and coming in between Mercury and Venus before starting its journey back out. On its way out it will cross our bow, meaning it will pass very close to the earth and the earth will pass behind it, plowing into its tail."
yon

Hollywood, FL

#2 Jul 9, 2011
Obviously there has been a total news blackout concerning this situation - at least on the part of the corporate news media that reports government propaganda and liberal agenda news. Does anybody remember Haley's Comet. It was talked about for years prior. This is different. And the governments knows it. I've even read reports of the Russians building 5000 bunkers around Moscow.

yon

Hollywood, FL

#3 Jul 14, 2011
IMHO,something big is getting ready to happen as YHWH has had enough of this planet refusing to call upon his real name, due to their silly superstitions, man-made spin and willful disregard of his Torah. And just because you claim to be a Jew, don't think you're going to be spared any more than your first century relatives.

http://watchmanscry.com/audio/Nathan_071211.m...

Luke 21:28
"Now when these things begin to occur, look up and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is drawing near."

Exodus 9:16

"I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
Bruce

AOL

#4 Jul 14, 2011
Ideally, we should be ready AT ALL TIMES. We need to prayerfully meditate on HaShem and His Word, that we may be ready, whenever we go.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Hollywood, FL

#5 Jul 14, 2011
You're right! Instead of traditions with no Scriptural support.
yon

Hollywood, FL

#6 Jul 14, 2011
btw - this thing, whatever it is, and if you haven't listened, is due to arrive on or just before Rosh Hashanah 2011. Get ready to meet your maker.
yon

Hollywood, FL

#7 Jul 14, 2011
btw-Bruce, do you know where your name comes from?

I am of the opinion that it is from Baruch, Jeremiah's secretary, and a collector of books.
yon

Hollywood, FL

#8 Jul 15, 2011
The NAME is YAHWEH.

Show a Scripture that suggests one should not say that name OUT LOUD.
Bruce

AOL

#9 Jul 15, 2011
YON: btw - this thing, whatever it is, and if you haven't listened, is due to arrive on or just before Rosh Hashanah 2011. Get ready to meet your maker.

BRUCE: When you say "Rosh HaShanah" 2011, that already took place this past spring. "Rosh HaShana" means"The First of the year". This is yet another unScriptural man-made tradition, as they call it "Rosh HaShana" when it is The Feast Of Shofar" or "Trumpets". The Torah Tells us CLEARLY The New Year is the month of Passover-which is in The Spring Time. Note:

(Shemoth 12:2 [IAV])
This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

(Shemoth 12:3 [IAV])
Speak ye unto all the congregation of Yisrael, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

Also, even in referring to this day, are you going by the unScriptural Hallel 2 calendar that most of Judaism follows today, or a more Scriptural calendar? This is important if you are giving me an exact date because Holy Days often fall on the wrong dates in using the Hallel calendar. Furthermore, if anyone makes prophecies based on an unScriptural calendar, in my opinion, that in itself would discredit the whole prophecy. Did they say which calendar system they are following to base the prophecy on?

YON: btw-Bruce, do you know where your name comes from?

I am of the opinion that it is from Baruch, Jeremiah's secretary, and a collector of books.

BRUCE: Nice :).

YON: The NAME is YAHWEH.

Show a Scripture that suggests one should not say that name OUT LOUD.

BRUCE: I cannot. Another man-made tradition. However, I can certainly RESPECT the tradition,(though I disagree with it), because the intention is a noble one. The best I can come up with is where it Says:

(Shemoth 20:7 [IAV])
Thou shalt not take the name of YY thy Elohim in vain; for YY will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Here, I understand this not to use, say, write out The Tetragrammaton in the context where there is controversy. However, in my own private worship and Scrptural meditations, I pronounce it all the time, because in this setting, I am not saying His Name where there is strife.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
Bruce

AOL

#10 Jul 15, 2011
BTW: In my IAV (Isra'eli Authorised Version), I chose to translated The Tetragrammaton using two Hebrew Yods, represented in the IAV as "YY". This is a tradition in Judaism historically used in Siddurim in the past. I chose this because I felt it would help make the IAV more inclusive to different groups-Those who choose to use "'Adonai", "Lord", or Sacred Name groups who pronounce The Name --Anyone can chose to do what they wish when they see "YY".

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Hollywood, FL

#11 Jul 15, 2011
Bruce wrote:
BRUCE: When you say "Rosh HaShanah" 2011, that already took place this past spring. "Rosh HaShana" means"The First of the year". This is yet another unScriptural man-made tradition, as they call it "Rosh HaShana" when it is The Feast Of Shofar" or "Trumpets". The Torah Tells us CLEARLY The New Year is the month of Passover-which is in The Spring Time. Note:
(Shemoth 12:2 [IAV])
This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.(Shemoth 12:3 [IAV])
Yeah, I never understood how the 1st of year could be in the 7th month. More disregard of Torah, I guess.
yon

Hollywood, FL

#12 Jul 15, 2011
Bruce wrote:
The Name --Anyone can chose to do what they wish when they see "YY".
Judges 17:6, 21:25
"In those days there was no king in Israel; every man did what was right in his own eyes."
yon

Hollywood, FL

#13 Jul 15, 2011
Bruce wrote:
YON: The NAME is YAHWEH.
Show a Scripture that suggests one should not say that name OUT LOUD.
BRUCE: I cannot. Another man-made tradition. However, I can certainly RESPECT the tradition,(though I disagree with it), because the intention is a noble one.
Can you imagine Yeshua saying something like that?

I can't remember exactly how it goes, but politically those who do the most harm are those who promise to do the most good. To wit:

"The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions"
Bruce

AOL

#14 Jul 16, 2011
YON: Yeah, I never understood how the 1st of year could be in the 7th month. More disregard of Torah, I guess.

BRUCE: Yes, I believe so. However, I do not believe that mahy who follow this Hillel calendar are aware of this.

BRUCE: The Name --Anyone can chose to do what they wish when they see "YY".

YON: Judges 17:6, 21:25
"In those days there was no king in Israel; every man did what was right in his own eyes."

BRUCE: I believe you are implying that when BELIEVERS do something wrong Theologically in ignorance, that YHWH will send them to hell. I disagree with this. Not only is YHWH Just, but He is Merciful and understanding. I believe there are a great many people who are totally unaware that traditions (in Messianic Judaism and "Christianity"), they are following are unScriptural. YHWH knows those who are unaware they are following unScriptural traditions, and He also sees the intentions of their hearts. It is His place to Judge them, just as it is His place to Judge us. Remember:

(MATT 7:2 [IAV])
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

(MATT 7:3 [IAV])
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

(MATT 7:4 [IAV])
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

YON: The NAME is YAHWEH.
Show a Scripture that suggests one should not say that name OUT LOUD.

BRUCE: I cannot. Another man-made tradition. However, I can certainly RESPECT the tradition,(though I disagree with it), because the intention is a noble one.

YON: Can you imagine Yeshua saying something like that?

BRUCE: I stand by what I said above.

YON: I can't remember exactly how it goes, but politically those who do the most harm are those who promise to do the most good. To wit:
"The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions"

BRUCE: So since the popular Hillel calendar is unScriptural and I know it is, I should therefore look down on those who are ignorant of this. NO, I don't think so. THE ESSENTIAL OF THE FAITH is BELIEF IN YHWH AND IN YHWH, along with love for ones follow man-especially Isra'el and the Jewish people. Whatever is beyond this is basically a secondary issue of which Salvation is not the issue. The NT Teaches that one must believe in Yeshua to be saved. It does not say one must have all the right beliefs on other Theological matters to be saved. So to conclude, I present faith in YHWH and Yeshua as a crucial issue, and when I share issues like the calendar, I do so without preachig fire and brimstone, but I try to with humility.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Hollywood, FL

#15 Jul 16, 2011
Acts 17:29-30

"Being then Godís offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,"
Bruce

AOL

#16 Jul 16, 2011
Of course. I believe Paul was specifically addressing two evils here: A) Not knowing who YHWH really is, and B), making idols G-d to them. However, if we take V30 far enough, then ALL OF US are ignorant, since we all fall drastically short of The Righteousness of YHWH. It is because of His grace through Yeshua that our sins,(including our ignorances), are made of no effect because of the blood of Yeshua. Scripture presents two main essentials as a requirement for Salvation-BELIEF IN YHWH AND HIS SON YESHUA. I do not believe that the sins of not believing are equal to being ignorant of the calendar, or in thinking some tradtion is Scriptural when it isn't. If believers were held accountable for all of these ignorances, then who could be saved and what was the blood of Yeshua shed for???

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Hollywood, FL

#17 Jul 16, 2011
Well Baruch, there's ignorance and willful ignorance. Yahweh is merciful beyond belief, but he also exacts punishment even when there is repentance. eg David. And there are other examples. And it's not a matter of looking down on others that Jews themselves are notoriously guilty of due to pride in their Temple, etc, and referring to the amaretz(sp?). The Romans had the same pride, calling the Scythians barbarians while they, the Romans were reveling in feeding those they didn't like to their lions because others didn't have their art, architecture, etc.

In another forum the subject on non-religious Jews was brought up. My response was, "Given what has happened in the past 90+ years, it just boogles my mind how any Jew could be non-religious. That's like a religion without G-d."

Hebrews 10:28-30 "Any person who has violated and [thus] rejected and set at naught the Law of Moses is put to death without pity or mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse (sterner and heavier) punishment do you suppose he will be judged to deserve who has spurned and [thus] trampled underfoot the Son of God, and who has considered the covenant blood by which he was consecrated common and unhallowed, thus profaning it and insulting and outraging the [Holy] Spirit [Who imparts] grace (the unmerited favor and blessing of God)? For we know Him Who said, Vengeance is Mine [retribution and the meting out of full justice rest with Me]; I will repay."
Bruce

AOL

#18 Jul 17, 2011
YON: it just boogles my mind how any Jew could be non-religious. That's like a religion without G-d."

BRUCE: But it doesn't boggle your mind FIRST how most Jews don't believe in Yeshua????--We cannot know G-d without Yeshua:

(MATT 11:27 [IAV])
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

(LUKE 10:22 [IAV])
All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

(MA`ASEI 4:12 [IAV])
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Prayerfully,
Bruce
yon

Hollywood, FL

#19 Jul 17, 2011
I agree. Just as guilty as x-tians with a God of their own making tied together by man-made rituals, dogma and observances along with a refusal to learn from history, not to mention Scripture.
yon

Hollywood, FL

#20 Jul 17, 2011
Well, prepare to meet your maker and explain your traditions as the only way to stop Western amoral decadence, goofy religion and the spread of Islam is to throw the Earth into total chaos. The next alignment with Elenin and the Sun is scheduled for Sept 6th. But as this thing gets closer, alot of other things might happen as it has upset the entire magnetisphere that protects the Earth from things like solar flares, and the core of the Earth is already rocking as the core is heating.

"The shields are down Captain."

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