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Sudden departure of Woodbury King of Kings Church pastor causes con...

There are 276 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 15, 2010, titled Sudden departure of Woodbury King of Kings Church pastor causes con.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Rev. Ralph Olsen led King of Kings for 30 years. Everyone agrees the Rev. Ralph Olsen has suddenly left one of the largest Lutheran churches in Minnesota.

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funnygirl

Cedar, MN

#1 Jun 16, 2010
In this day and age someone's sexuality shouldn't matter. We are all human beings and worship the same God....
AnjaEm

Eau Claire, WI

#2 Jun 16, 2010
If you are Lutheran you worship a Triune God. I doubt that a Muslim would agree with you.

People's sexuality shouldn't matter but people's behavior is another issue entirely.
Martha

United States

#3 Jun 16, 2010
No, we don't all worship the same God. My God is the same God that Noah had to obey to survive the end of his wicked world.

The teaching that God is love is true, but that you are saved by the grace of God is not true. Sorry, you have to be obedient to the Law of Christ.

This world is more wicked than Noah's day, and the one true God in heaven is going to destroy this world too.

He has had his people preaching the end is near for almost l00 years, only 8 people survived the end of Noah's world. Jesus said only a few are going to survive the end of this world as well.
Just Wondering

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jun 16, 2010
We ARE saved by the grace of God through Jesus Christ. The law should be obeyed, not because we need to do so to spend eternity in heaven but because of gratitude for what Christ did for us.
Conservative Mark

United States

#5 Jun 16, 2010
The real sin of the ELCA is not acceptance of homosexuality.

The real sin of the ELCA is allowing homosexual clergy to coverty use a religion as a political pawn in their quest to legitimatize their sinful lifestyle.

If they had been required to wear name tags back in 1988 that read, "HI MY NAME IS ***** AND I AM A HOMOSEXUAL", none of this would be happening now.
AnjaEm

Eau Claire, WI

#6 Jun 16, 2010
The "real sin of the ELCA" in my opinion is teaching me since childhood that homosexuality is a sin and then doing a 180.

First it's the immutable word of God and now it's "No wait... We changed our minds."

It truly is more political than theological.

I wasn't supposed to know my church could make a mistake in theology. And how do I know they have it right now?
DoveGirl

United States

#7 Jun 16, 2010
The ELCA will neither condemn homosexuality nor abortion. This does not follow the teachings of the bible - the Word of God. How is this considered a Christian church?
DoveGirl

United States

#8 Jun 16, 2010
AnjaEm wrote:
The "real sin of the ELCA" in my opinion is teaching me since childhood that homosexuality is a sin and then doing a 180.
First it's the immutable word of God and now it's "No wait... We changed our minds."
It truly is more political than theological.
I wasn't supposed to know my church could make a mistake in theology. And how do I know they have it right now?
They DON'T have it right...
observer

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jun 16, 2010
mumbo jumbo. ritual, interpretations, man has put together a bunch of beliefs to understand himself. as with any of his inventions their are perils and paybacks. all of a sudden a contrived gathering falls apart because of human folly and herd mentality. the nature of herds is to blindly follow the leader in times of danger.
Clueless

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jun 16, 2010
observer wrote:
mumbo jumbo. ritual, interpretations, man has put together a bunch of beliefs to understand himself. as with any of his inventions their are perils and paybacks. all of a sudden a contrived gathering falls apart because of human folly and herd mentality. the nature of herds is to blindly follow the leader in times of danger.
And who shall we assume "Observer" will turn to in a time of lonliness and great need?

Observer, I pray for you.
Former Fundie

Wheeling, WV

#11 Jun 16, 2010
If your "Christian" faith is founded on and dependent upon your hatred for gays and lesbians, then you are an anathema to the Gospel of Christ.

If your "Christian" faith requires an obsession with gay sex and sexual practices, then you are an anathema to the Gospel of Christ.

Christ didn't say one word about gays, lesbians, or homosexuality --- yet, that seems to be all certain "Christians" wish to worry about.
Former Fundie

Wheeling, WV

#12 Jun 16, 2010
Fundamentalist Christianity is a complete contradiction and rejection of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Fundamentalist Christianity is a false religion which is predicated on the ignorance and fears of its followers.

Jesus had a word to describe today's Fundamentalist "Christians" --- pharisees.
QuestioningAnswe rs

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jun 16, 2010
Interesting...12 posts, and not a single one addressing the article.

Since: Mar 10

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jun 16, 2010
Anyone care to explain what is the reason for releasing the pastor "fait accompli"?
Sarah D

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Jun 16, 2010
Sounds like the pastor who replaces Olsen will have a rough time of it.
KOK member

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Jun 16, 2010
QuestioningAnswers wrote:
Interesting...12 posts, and not a single one addressing the article.
Yup, not one and the article was pretty one sided and not entirely accurate.
Pewsitter

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jun 16, 2010
So, fire the board and hire him back. Sounds like there's support for that. There's no excuse for secrecy in church.
KOK member

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jun 16, 2010
Sarah D wrote:
Sounds like the pastor who replaces Olsen will have a rough time of it.
Nope, there are already 2 great pastors in the church!
Booze Hound

United States

#20 Jun 16, 2010
QuestioningAnswers wrote:
Interesting...12 posts, and not a single one addressing the article.
It's all the gay government employees who spend their work days on Topix trying to tell everyone how cool they are.
i think

Circle Pines, MN

#21 Jun 16, 2010
funnygirl wrote:
In this day and age someone's sexuality shouldn't matter. We are all human beings and worship the same God....
how very humanist & pagan of u to say so, funnygirl.

actually the truth is just the opposite of what you're saying.

God the Father as represented by the Son, "is the same yesterday, today & forever" so it doesn't matter what "day and age" it is; what He said then about sexuality still holds true today for those who care to worship at His altar.

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