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Bed Found In Polygamist Ranch Temple

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Apr 22, 2008
 

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Lots of different Views here I see.
But the question that we all should consider is what we are saying based on truth or our own understanding on matters.
What does it means to be a Follower of Christ?
Many people would say, I am a Christen, but in truth in order to say that you are as such, one must understand and follow what Christ stated and what he taught his follower. Like that of Luke, Paul, Matthew, just to name a few.
Looking in Gen 2:24 - 24 That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh.
I never saw were God made Adam two wives, nor did it say, he must stick to his WIVES and they will...
Yet if the marriage was left with in the churches, that many claim it should be..
Perhaps some you might Consider this...
1 Timothy 4:1 to 3 - 1 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth.
How many Priest and other religion have told their leaders, you cannot marry and now they are to tell the people whom they should marry. While other religions say, must not eat meat, or you must eat any food for a time.
If they are followers of the Christ, I never heard him say... John you cannot marry but Paul you can. Peter sorry no Red meat for you only fish.
But what about this so called marriage. Some would say I am a Christen, but I am a person that likes same gender relationships. Then how is that possible to call yourself a Follower of Christ when Saint Paul wrote to the Corinthians in his first letter to them:
1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 - 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.
May say they follow Christ, many claims that they believe in the bible. But how many people live up to what they claim to be.
For even the bible gives a suggestion of age for a person to marry. Yes it is true...
1 Corinthians 7:36 - 36 But if anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virginity, if that is past the bloom of youth, and this is the way it should take place, let him do what he wants; he does not sin. Let them marry.
Bloom of youth - able to make choices and understand the outcome.
Many states consider this at 18 years of age. Others consider it a little younger but with a side note that they must have a parent to give consent to this matter. Why is that, because the state does not really consider them able to make choices that they understand the outcome.
This may be a shock to some or some may consider this a bunch of jumbo information or that the bible was written long ago and times have change. But how can you call a person a Christen if they are not following what Christ taught his followers and what they left behind us to read and understand.
When you’re in a group of people and you want to conform to their way, how do you do that, well the person that had set the pattern would be the one that you would follow so you could be identified by that group. Likewise, what the Christ did we must also do in order to be consider Christen
John 13:13-15, 13 YOU address me,‘Teacher,’ and,‘Lord,’ and YOU speak rightly, for I am such. 14 Therefore, if I, although Lord and Teacher, washed YOUR feet, YOU also ought to wash the feet of one another. 15 For I set the pattern for YOU, that, just as I did to YOU, YOU should do also.
But this is just a person passing by...
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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I understand your point, but to me this whole incident is about "Spousal abuse, child abuse and pedophilia" and therein lies the problem.
Yes, I believe in religious freedom, but I do not condone or believe in abuse of the innocent which appears to be the case with this particular group. We have to rise and protect the innocent, and I hope that by bringing this group out in the open we can begin to make our statement that this activity will not be allowed.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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No, "all religions" are not.
by definition they are
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this smells of BS to high heaven

this is government BS, just like WACO was, they couldve picked up Koresh on his daily jog any day of the week, but instead, they have the big show.

Here is what this is - this is GROUNDWORK for persecuting Christians who do not go along with Govt BS. This is groundwork for go after real christians later. This is precedent setting.
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I see all of your children snatched away from you because, its okay our religion is wrong,our face is wrong in America`s eyes I dont agree with taking children from there parents,unless the parents are negeliting them the flds were not and all the videos I saw they were happy
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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<quoted text> I agree with everything you have said..I think it is very sick! even the mothers of the girls are alright with it.what little girl at the age of 13 or so want to be with a sick nasty 50 year old .to me thats the same as trying to make legal CHILD MOLESTATION!!!!!!!!!!
It takes place in the temple. That is why they have a bed in there.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
Lacey Gracie wrote:
Have any of you seen any OLD OLD people?I have seen one old lady when they toured the inside of rhe compound,she stepped out a door and went right back in.So my question is WHERE IS GRANDMA AND GRANDPA.Also that many people thousands and thousands of these weirdos It is a safe bet there are at least a couple of handicapped children,where are they
Yeah. You are right. Where are the grandparents?
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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This bed was covered in semen and pubic hair!!
NOw that is a NASTY bed!!!
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Many priests molested boys and girls in the church building- doubt if they even gave them the comfort of a bed.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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I see all of your children snatched away from you because, its okay our religion is wrong,our face is wrong in America`s eyes I dont agree with taking children from there parents,unless the parents are negeliting them the flds were not and all the videos I saw they were happy
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this is all the setting of a precedent and a propaganda point aimed at the rest of America, the real targets. This is all being done for the purpose of tweaking public opinion for what is coming later. It will be backed up by Television "dramas" and such in the coming weeks and months. The American populace is being seasoned and prepared.
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The Religious Jews can do what they want in America so why go after this group?

This is race reversed in America and how the jews destroy crime victims in America and say we are Zionist and will get you to the victim as well as the Middle East;

In America religious leaders Jews sexually assault women and then persecute them.

Here is for you and your desire to destroy our beautiful America and our dear soldiers die for your hate of the world.Muslim jurists explained there are four kinds of jihad fi sabilillah (struggle in the cause of God):[81]

For those who have been given by the great propagandist liars misinformation on what Jihad means;

* Jihad of the heart (jihad bil qalb/nafs) is concerned with combating the devil and in the attempt to escape his persuasion to evil. This Type of Jihad was regarded as the greater jihad (al-jihad al-akbar).
* Jihad by the tongue (jihad bil lisan) is concerned with speaking the truth and spreading the word of Islam with one's tongue.
* Jihad by the hand (jihad bil yad) refers to choosing to do what is right and to combat injustice and what is wrong with action.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
s kranning wrote:
Many priests molested boys and girls in the church building- doubt if they even gave them the comfort of a bed.
AW...thats cold!! but true!!
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Apr 22, 2008
 
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ONE bed.
O N E
this smells of BS to high heaven
this is government BS, just like WACO was, they couldve picked up Koresh on his daily jog any day of the week, but instead, they have the big show.
Here is what this is - this is GROUNDWORK for persecuting Christians who do not go along with Govt BS. This is groundwork for go after real christians later. This is precedent setting.
I hope the government has the good sense to outlaw all religion to prevent this ugly, middle-ages type of human abuse.
How can a country that is a leader in the world still allow a sick fantasy bunch of sickos like these to exist?
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Apr 22, 2008
 
s kranning wrote:
Many priests molested boys and girls in the church building- doubt if they even gave them the comfort of a bed.
They did issue knee-pads, I hear...

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Lots of people, lots of media attention, lots of "laws" broken...

BUT ~ "they" have been doing this in west Texas for over 11 years!!

Why was this not addressed 10 years ago?

Why has this been put off til a presidential election year.

Rick Perry is running AGAIN here in Texas (I suppose this next go round he will jump back on the demo wagon.... geesch)

WHY WAS THIS NOT ADDRESSED A LONG TIME AGO BEFORE CHILDREN WERE BRAIN WASHED?
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Is this a country that can practive free religion or isn't it?
Once there is one crack they will never stop until they distroy this freedom.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
fed up with the mess wrote:
<quoted text>This makes me sick to my stomach! I could not even finish reading it.
Well, if you already sick at this than perhaps this pages will kill you!!... hahaa!!..

I know I'm sick at this sicko nutt head pepoles too.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/po...

http://www.rickross.com/groups/polygamy.html
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#233
Apr 22, 2008
 
Warren Jeffs married all his step-mom, after two weeks of the death of his father (Rulon Jeffs). This peoples are living in the cages like an animals or worst!!..

It's very sicko!!..
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Apr 22, 2008
 
just me wrote:
Is this a country that can practive free religion or isn't it?
Once there is one crack they will never stop until they distroy this freedom.
Yup, But we have to know ours limited of Freedom!!..
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Hey Y'all, What kinds of pills that those old man takes anyway?... If they can keep it up or satisfy with all their wivesssss, I would loved to prescribes some. I bet, my wife will be super happy if I could have it too!!..hahahaa!!..
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