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Prop. 8 victors upset by personal attacks

There are 104 comments on the Sacramento Bee Newspaper story from Nov 12, 2008, titled Prop. 8 victors upset by personal attacks. In it, Sacramento Bee Newspaper reports that:

Supporters of Proposition 8 won the election but now are frustrated because they are still fighting for their cause.

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MickeyC

New York, NY

#1 Nov 12, 2008
I think the Bible says it best about the degenerate Proposition 8 supporters;
Hosea 8:7 "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind"
lngrid

United States

#2 Nov 12, 2008
I am a proposition 8 supporter. I volunteer in a building that has received bomb threats because most of us who work there support it. I will always leave retribution for attacks against me and mine in the Lord's hands; he has commanded me to love my enemies and pray for those who despitefully use me.I can say that you may be able to slash our tires, vandalize our homes, threaten and hurt our persons, but there is something anyone has to fear that is greater than whatever you can do. God has given us a standard and commanded us to stand as a light on a hill. If you hurt us, it is because He allows it for His purposes. All we will say is:
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, even fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by keeping them is your servant warned,
And in keeping them is great reward."
This is why we do what we do.

“ALWAYS IN SEARCH OF TRUTH”

Since: Aug 08

Oakland, CA

#3 Nov 12, 2008
welcome to the moron church..

THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE
(ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE) MARRIAGE SHALL CONSIST OF A UNION BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE OR MORE WOMEN.(genesis 29:17-28; II samuel 3:2-5) MARRIAGE SHALL NOT IMPEDE A MAN'S RIGHT TO TAKE CONCUBINES IN ADDITION TO HIS WIFE OR WIVES.(II samuel: 13; kings II:3; II chronicles II:21) A MARRIAGE SHALL BE CONSIDERED VALID ONLY IF THE WIFE IS A VIRGIN. IF THE WIFE IS NOT A VIRGIN, SHE SHALL BE EXECUTED.(deuteronomy 22:13-21) MARRIAGE OF A BELIEVER AND A NON BELIEVER SHALL BE FORBIDDEN.(genesis 24:3; numbers 25:1-9 ezra 9:12; nehemiah 10:30; chronicles 6:14) SINCE MARRIAGE IS FOR LIFE, DIVORCE IS FORBIDDEN.(deuteronomy 22:19; mark 10:9-12) IF A MARRIED MAN DIES WITHOUT CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER MUST MARRY THE WIDOW.
IF THE BROTHER DOES NOT MARRY THE WIDOW, HE MUST PAY A FINE OF ONE SHOE.(genesis 38:6-10; deuteronomy 25:5-10) IN LIEU OF MARRIAGE AND IF THERE ARE NO ACCEPTABLE MEN TO BE FOUND, A WOMAN SHALL GET HER FATHER DRUNK AND HAVE SEX WITH HIM (genesis 19:31-36).
JeffHouston

Bogotá, Colombia

#4 Nov 12, 2008
lngrid wrote:
I am a proposition 8 supporter. I volunteer in a building that has received bomb threats because most of us who work there support it. I will always leave retribution for attacks against me and mine in the Lord's hands; he has commanded me to love my enemies and pray for those who despitefully use me.I can say that you may be able to slash our tires, vandalize our homes, threaten and hurt our persons, but there is something anyone has to fear that is greater than whatever you can do. God has given us a standard and commanded us to stand as a light on a hill. If you hurt us, it is because He allows it for His purposes. All we will say is:
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, even fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by keeping them is your servant warned,
And in keeping them is great reward."
This is why we do what we do.
Honey, don't play the victim here. You started this, you took away peoples rights. You did out of meanness and spite. The Gays aren't going to slink back in the closet over this. We have to put up with Proposition H8, you'll just have to learn to deal with people being upset with you.

You're looking for sympathy. I've got none for you.

“What goes around comes around”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#5 Nov 12, 2008
lngrid wrote:
I am a proposition 8 supporter. I volunteer in a building that has received bomb threats because most of us who work there support it. I will always leave retribution for attacks against me and mine in the Lord's hands; he has commanded me to love my enemies and pray for those who despitefully use me.I can say that you may be able to slash our tires, vandalize our homes, threaten and hurt our persons, but there is something anyone has to fear that is greater than whatever you can do. God has given us a standard and commanded us to stand as a light on a hill. If you hurt us, it is because He allows it for His purposes. All we will say is:
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, even fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by keeping them is your servant warned,
And in keeping them is great reward."
This is why we do what we do.
Oh my gaaawwwddd..........Ingrid! Woman! Hello!!! Get a grip! You sound like the typical rhetoric spewing, brainwashed cult member! If you hurt us it is because He allows it for His purposes? Are you serious?? You need some psychological help and quickly...and I pray to MY God that you do NOT have children that you are abusing emotionally with this crap.

“Rick Carsten has a crush on me”

Since: Nov 07

United States

#6 Nov 12, 2008
AMANWITHANEDGE wrote:
welcome to the moron church..
THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE
(ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE) MARRIAGE SHALL CONSIST OF A UNION BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE OR MORE WOMEN.(genesis 29:17-28; II samuel 3:2-5) MARRIAGE SHALL NOT IMPEDE A MAN'S RIGHT TO TAKE CONCUBINES IN ADDITION TO HIS WIFE OR WIVES.(II samuel: 13; kings II:3; II chronicles II:21) A MARRIAGE SHALL BE CONSIDERED VALID ONLY IF THE WIFE IS A VIRGIN. IF THE WIFE IS NOT A VIRGIN, SHE SHALL BE EXECUTED.(deuteronomy 22:13-21) MARRIAGE OF A BELIEVER AND A NON BELIEVER SHALL BE FORBIDDEN.(genesis 24:3; numbers 25:1-9 ezra 9:12; nehemiah 10:30; chronicles 6:14) SINCE MARRIAGE IS FOR LIFE, DIVORCE IS FORBIDDEN.(deuteronomy 22:19; mark 10:9-12) IF A MARRIED MAN DIES WITHOUT CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER MUST MARRY THE WIDOW.
IF THE BROTHER DOES NOT MARRY THE WIDOW, HE MUST PAY A FINE OF ONE SHOE.(genesis 38:6-10; deuteronomy 25:5-10) IN LIEU OF MARRIAGE AND IF THERE ARE NO ACCEPTABLE MEN TO BE FOUND, A WOMAN SHALL GET HER FATHER DRUNK AND HAVE SEX WITH HIM (genesis 19:31-36).
Uhh hey professor.....
Didja realize that these writings you posted are all from the Old Testament and applied to the Hebrews ONLY? You did good looking up all those old rules but I must tell you that there is this thing.....called the New Testament, and with it came a new covenant between mankind and god. The most notable change was that ALL people could be saved by grace because of one person's sacrifice.
If you are going to play in a certain arena, you should have your facts straight.

Your assumption that ALL prop 8 supports are religious fanatics makes you look very stupid.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#7 Nov 12, 2008
"When religion and government ride in the same cart, the whirlwind follows."

-Jessica Atreides
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#8 Nov 12, 2008
lngrid wrote:
I am a proposition 8 supporter. I volunteer in a building that has received bomb threats because most of us who work there support it.
just imagine how people who work in abortion clinics feel - they have been bombed and doctors shot to death

and staff followed back to their homes

day in and day out for years because of religious people like you who feel entitled to stand in judgement over others

did you feel powerful rendering null and void the 18,000 marriages?

so much for let no man put asunder

I would have felt bad for you, bomb threats are scary, I've been in lockdown situations at work because of them

but, since you persist in refusing to accept responsiblity for the pain you have caused and worked to cause

I say, reap what you've sown
shaddup

United States

#9 Nov 12, 2008
lngrid wrote:
I am a proposition 8 supporter. I volunteer in a building that has received bomb threats because most of us who work there support it. I will always leave retribution for attacks against me and mine in the Lord's hands; he has commanded me to love my enemies and pray for those who despitefully use me.I can say that you may be able to slash our tires, vandalize our homes, threaten and hurt our persons, but there is something anyone has to fear that is greater than whatever you can do. God has given us a standard and commanded us to stand as a light on a hill. If you hurt us, it is because He allows it for His purposes. All we will say is:
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, even fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by keeping them is your servant warned,
And in keeping them is great reward."
This is why we do what we do.
Why is everybody hating on Ingrid?..she didn't hurt anyone..and all you people are bashing her cause of her opinion..som of you are malicious about it too...Yeah do unto others if you don't get your way...why dont you all just f*&kin riot already..what a bunch of animals...if you guys really think that violence is the key to this situation...Obama needs to build larger prisons to dold all you heathens...
shaddup

United States

#10 Nov 12, 2008
this is a deep subject...First off I have nothing against homosexuals personally..(especially when it's 2 women.)lol. I actually know a few gay people and they are human too..I'm African American so I know what ot's like to be treate differently for something you cannot change.Some people say you can't control being gay, But with most of the gay's I know there was some significant moment in their lives that was the cause of the path they ventured upon....
They deserve to have the rights normal people have that's the law period..but when it comes to the church they are seperate.. I believe gays should have the rights of a domestic partnership wich would extend them the same privilages as heterosexual marriages, but I dont believe it would be right to call it marriage..The wedding vows are supposed to be "to join this man and this woman in Holy Matrimony" period..what part of this is unclear?...some people will disagree with me..It's expected but I dont see what is so difficult about this...If gay's are given a ceremony that gives the domestic Union rights as far as filing taxes and all the other stuff that should be enough..You can have a ceremony you can change your last name to match all of that..it's cool, I don't think it would be right to have it called and be marriage (Holy Matrimony) cause it's supposed to be between a man and a woman...
shaddup

United States

#11 Nov 12, 2008
nina wrote:
<quoted text>
just imagine how people who work in abortion clinics feel - they have been bombed and doctors shot to death
and staff followed back to their homes
day in and day out for years because of religious people like you who feel entitled to stand in judgement over others
did you feel powerful rendering null and void the 18,000 marriages?
so much for let no man put asunder
I would have felt bad for you, bomb threats are scary, I've been in lockdown situations at work because of them
but, since you persist in refusing to accept responsiblity for the pain you have caused and worked to cause
I say, reap what you've sown
you know what ..you are spewing right now...
your saying religious fanatics like her bombed buildings and shot doctors to death..
those people were religious fanatics but they weren't like her..
like she said she lifts all retribution up to the hands of the lord, wich means no matter how much stupid shyt you do to her..she's still NOT going to do anything about it but pray....
So now it sounds like your straight up attacking her just cause of her beliefs as benevolent as they are..

“What goes around comes around”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#12 Nov 12, 2008
shaddup wrote:
this is a deep subject...First off I have nothing against homosexuals personally..(especially when it's 2 women.)lol. I actually know a few gay people and they are human too..I'm African American so I know what ot's like to be treate differently for something you cannot change.Some people say you can't control being gay, But with most of the gay's I know there was some significant moment in their lives that was the cause of the path they ventured upon....
They deserve to have the rights normal people have that's the law period..but when it comes to the church they are seperate.. I believe gays should have the rights of a domestic partnership wich would extend them the same privilages as heterosexual marriages, but I dont believe it would be right to call it marriage..The wedding vows are supposed to be "to join this man and this woman in Holy Matrimony" period..what part of this is unclear?...some people will disagree with me..It's expected but I dont see what is so difficult about this...If gay's are given a ceremony that gives the domestic Union rights as far as filing taxes and all the other stuff that should be enough..You can have a ceremony you can change your last name to match all of that..it's cool, I don't think it would be right to have it called and be marriage (Holy Matrimony) cause it's supposed to be between a man and a woman...
Shaddup...out here in CA it's more about the seperation of church and government. There are a vast number of us hetro, married couples to whom religion means nothing nor wre we married in churces. So the religious zealots that say it's God's Law, etc are the ones taking the majority of the hits on this...especially the Mormons.
shaddup

United States

#13 Nov 12, 2008
AMANWITHANEDGE wrote:
welcome to the moron church..
THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE
(ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE) MARRIAGE SHALL CONSIST OF A UNION BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE OR MORE WOMEN.(genesis 29:17-28; II samuel 3:2-5) MARRIAGE SHALL NOT IMPEDE A MAN'S RIGHT TO TAKE CONCUBINES IN ADDITION TO HIS WIFE OR WIVES.(II samuel: 13; kings II:3; II chronicles II:21) A MARRIAGE SHALL BE CONSIDERED VALID ONLY IF THE WIFE IS A VIRGIN. IF THE WIFE IS NOT A VIRGIN, SHE SHALL BE EXECUTED.(deuteronomy 22:13-21) MARRIAGE OF A BELIEVER AND A NON BELIEVER SHALL BE FORBIDDEN.(genesis 24:3; numbers 25:1-9 ezra 9:12; nehemiah 10:30; chronicles 6:14) SINCE MARRIAGE IS FOR LIFE, DIVORCE IS FORBIDDEN.(deuteronomy 22:19; mark 10:9-12) IF A MARRIED MAN DIES WITHOUT CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER MUST MARRY THE WIDOW.
IF THE BROTHER DOES NOT MARRY THE WIDOW, HE MUST PAY A FINE OF ONE SHOE.(genesis 38:6-10; deuteronomy 25:5-10) IN LIEU OF MARRIAGE AND IF THERE ARE NO ACCEPTABLE MEN TO BE FOUND, A WOMAN SHALL GET HER FATHER DRUNK AND HAVE SEX WITH HIM (genesis 19:31-36).
what does it all mean dude..Are you for or against it?
Your Creator

Draper, UT

#15 Nov 12, 2008
This Reminds me of the time the Jews murdered Christ. Well I guess the Lord will soon wreak havac amongst the wicked. "Not mine, but thy will be done oh Lord"
Whos Your Daddy Off Road

Draper, UT

#16 Nov 12, 2008
The ratio in CA was 48% to 52% with Prop 8. There is only approx. 30% Mormons in CA. Why are these people blamin da Mormons? I didn't get that memo. It looks to me that there are many diff. religions concerned. And why does someones sexual preference have any thing to do with anything? Sounds like FAGS have nothing better to do than whine like little bitches. I'm not Mormon but I am definetly going to look into it now. They must be doing some en right to catch all that flak. Peace---
Debatable wrote:
Im very happy prop 8 passed.. I would of sent a ton of cash to help support Prop 8 and will to any other state doing the same thing. 29 states already ended gay marriages with constitutional amendments.
Stupidity

Gilbertsville, PA

#17 Nov 12, 2008
You know it would be funny if we would flip flop things. The gays get the word "marriage" and then the people now can take words "civil unions." Kind of be funny to watch the gays cry that isn't fair.

Bunch of crybabies who claim they are being persecuted when these states give them same rights under civil unions.

Just give these people all they want so they shut and go away. And then when they find no one cares about their cause they want have anything to complain about.
Cottonbabe

Sacramento, CA

#18 Nov 13, 2008
JTTG wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhh hey professor.....
Didja realize that these writings you posted are all from the Old Testament and applied to the Hebrews ONLY? You did good looking up all those old rules but I must tell you that there is this thing.....called the New Testament, and with it came a new covenant between mankind and god. The most notable change was that ALL people could be saved by grace because of one person's sacrifice.
If you are going to play in a certain arena, you should have your facts straight.
Your assumption that ALL prop 8 supports are religious fanatics makes you look very stupid.
Spoken by the expert at looking very stupid.
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#20 Nov 13, 2008
shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>
...
So now it sounds like your straight up attacking her just cause of her beliefs as benevolent as they are..
she not only voted to remove rights, but she worked for the group who removed those rights

that is not benevolent
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#21 Nov 13, 2008
Nimrod wrote:
"Whatever happened to the old adage, I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
(from familyleader.net of 11/12)
sure, I will defend your right to say and vote as you wish

however, that does not prevent me from reacting to what you say or how you voted

free speech works in both directions
shaddup

United States

#22 Nov 13, 2008
SarahMoon wrote:
<quoted text>
Shaddup...out here in CA it's more about the seperation of church and government. There are a vast number of us hetro, married couples to whom religion means nothing nor wre we married in churces. So the religious zealots that say it's God's Law, etc are the ones taking the majority of the hits on this...especially the Mormons.
I hear where your coming from and I respect that...you dont have to be religious to understand that more than half of the country is religious in some way shape or form.and hold the act of marriage as a highly religious ceremony....and almost all of them believe that homosexuality is wrong that's why prop 8 supporters won..the real problem is peoples failure to compromise...I dont see why they wont allow them a domestic union with all the rights of a marriage..

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