Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16569 Oct 5, 2012
HOMOMORMON wrote:
TELL ME
that YOU have NEVER HEARD of that so I can POST a link with THIRTY SOMETHING PAGES
OF ENGLISH LANGUAGE DOCUMENTS
- just those scanned in or typed in, ONLINE -
on GOOGLE.
SIT at WHATEVER TERMINAL YOU ARE AT and REPRESENT NON-MORMON PSEUDO-CHRISTIANITY,
BY TELLING THE PEOPLE of THIS THREAD, that YOU NEVER HEARD,
of CAPITAL PUNISHMENT
of ANY KIND,
mentioned at ANY TIME,
in ANY DOCUMENT CONNECTED
to CHRISTIANITY, it's ROOTS, or it's extant, various literatures.
Tell us that until our LDS APPROVED CLEAR, COOL WATER sprays out onto our keyboards,
as we MIRTHFULLY FOLLOW ALONG with your SCINTILLATING EXPOSE,
on CAPITAL PUNISHMENT as RECORDED in HISTORY, related to the
HOLY BIBLE'S Old Testament, and associated literatures KNOWN to GOOGLE.
Hick.
Expose away, fantasy man. What a retard.
HOMODANAPAGANISM S

Yuba City, CA

#16570 Oct 5, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I would be glad explain if I had actually said it, but I don't. You are off your meds again. I don't have to explain your fantasies.
Okay we'll wait while you sort it out

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16571 Oct 5, 2012
HOMODANAPAGANISMS wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay we'll wait while you sort it out
Don't hold your breath. Or do us all and do.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16572 Oct 5, 2012
*all a favor...

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16573 Oct 5, 2012
By the way, Hosea said that Jacob wrestled with an angel:

Hosea 12:4 (NASB)

4 Yes, he wrestled with the angel and prevailed;
He wept and sought His favor.
He found Him at Bethel
And there He spoke with us,

LOL!!!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16574 Oct 5, 2012
We'll wait while you sort that out, but I won't be holding my breath. LOL!!!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16575 Oct 5, 2012
HOMODANAPAGANISMS wrote:
In other words, TELL THIS FORUM that YOU NEVER HEARD OF,
nearly the ENTIRE WESTERN and EASTERN ORTHODOX BODY of CHRISTIANIC METAPHYSICS,
ASSUMING the GOD of the BIBLE
issued commands on how those who adhered to Him conduct their breeding and sociological, morality.
You NEVER HEARD of JEWS or MUSLIMS or CHRISTIANS FORBIDDING the practice of BEASTIALITY.
Or of them COMMONLY UNDERSTANDING there were teachings related to
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT, in the
ORIGIN DOCUMENTS, of the JUDEO-CHRISTIANIC heritages being principally CHRISTIANIC, JUDAIC, and ISLAMIC peoples.
Through 4,000 years.
Tell us that so we can post simple G.O.O.G.L.E. returns in the SCORES of PAGES of DOCUMENTS,
comprising JUST those we can almost instantly find on the internet.
COMMON
PUBLIC
DOMAIN.
Because really it's so much more sophisticated, far reaching, and free thinking than anything the men who invented... the UNITED STATES or... CATHOLICISM or.... JUDAISM or... THE nearly ENDLESS philosophical societies that have garnered SOME
of their final opinions from the cultures above.
Topix has got a lot of bandwidth so you get out that book from Brigham Young's wife with the story of how that other woman "cut her a look that would freeze ice" or whatever it was, over the "two-and-a-third yards of fine cloth," they were arguing over,
and we'll get to the bottom of Brigham Young's wife being so offended she packed her stuff and left him for another man.
Because none of us have ever heard of a woman having so much sense of how she wanted it, that if she didn't get it, she left her man,
and went and found her one who would give it to her.
We never heard of such.
SO YOU GO FETCH YOUR SCANNER,
and WE'LL READ ALONG
breath abate.
H
I
C
K
You do love to put words in peoples mouths. Anyhow, going past your ignorance, the former Ms. Young never remarried. What an idiot.
Father Overtime

Denver, CO

#16576 Oct 5, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Expose away, fantasy man. What a retard.
Laughed milk up my nose after reading that post because in my mind my reflex was to think,
"Inthenameofdanarobertsgo spel, Amen"
HOMODANAPAGANISM S

Yuba City, CA

#16577 Oct 5, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want to believe that, fine. But the problem would be that the Jews who escaped from Masada happened after the resurrection of Christ. Making it impossible to be the Nephites or Lamanites, DUH!!! Epic Fail, Mr. Science, who apparently can't tell time. Where exactly did you get your edumacation, Jethro? Who's the "HICK" now? LOL!!!
Elohim, you biblical moron, isn't a proper name for God. It is Just the Hebrew word used for "God". Even when the Old Testament referred to false gods, they use the word "elohim" for the term "gods".
Example: Jeremiah 7:9
English: Will you steal, murder, and commit adultery and swear falsely, and offer sacrifices to Baal and walk after OTHER GODS that you have not known,
Hebrew: http://biblos.com/jeremiah/7-9.htm
430 [e] "&#277;l&#333; hm" &#1488;&#1457;&#15 00;&#1465;&#1492;& #1460;&#1445;&#1497; &#1501; gods
Ask any Jew, and they will tell you that the proper for God is "YWHW" or "Yahweh
If Jacob wrestled with God, he was wrestling with Jesus, who was Jehovah of the old Testament.
Good luck with that "Elohim" story.
From "Jewish Exponent", a description of the event of
THE MAN
WRESTLING with Jacob
who was called ELOHIM

http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/17791/W...

..."If Jacob has not yet discerned that he is striving with something, or someone, more than just a "man," the adversary's entreaty, "Let me go, for dawn is breaking," suggests something supernatural is at play.

The Hebrew word for angel (malakh) is actually not used in the story.

The adversary re-names Jacob as "Israel," which is a play

upon the word meaning "struggled with Elohim,"

and Jacob names the place of the struggle Peni-el, "meaning 'I

have seen Elohim face-to-face and I came out alive.' "

I don't need luck I'm telling the truth.

YOU'RE the one who said GOD ISN'T A MAN.
YOU'RE the one who said GOD CAN'T WRESTLE WITH A MAN.
YOU'RE the one who said GOD IS NOT CALLED ELOHIM.

The ARGUMENTS you MAKE are STANDARD Protestant PROTESTS to the Gospel.

You first DENY GOD is CALLED ELOHIM

then you claim it's ONLY GENERIC; as though that's a defense for claiming it never happened.

ALL of THAT being a way to SIDETRACK from the fact that the scripture also calls God A MAN.

Which you protestants VEHEMENTLY DENY.

You also deny that JESUS CHRIST was a man.

You have so many stories different from the scriptures you don't know where to start.

Because if you did
you would.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16578 Oct 5, 2012
Do you have a problem with God being a MAN?

Yes you do.

So when presented with the fact JACOB WRESTLED WITH a MAN

when you claim GOD is NOT a MAN

you make the claim the name ELOHIM is GENERIC.

IT doesn't MATTER if it's GENERIC, the MAN
was
GOD.

So you're caught no matter what happens, because your lies, can't lie in three different directions, therefore you have to pick ONE

then separately ANOTHER

and claim, you haven't been caught the first time.

Is one of the names of God ELOHIM?

Is one of the names of ELOHIM - God?

You're scratching around DESPERATELY to ESCAPE the SEVERAL
CONTRADICTIONS what you say has, to scripture

The first one is you claim GOD IS WITHOUT BODY

we see right there YOUR CLAIM LIES

then you claim GOD is NOT a MAN.

we see right there YOUR CLAIM LIES.

Then when we point out that Jesus Christ said, with obvious deliberation, "I do as I have seen the Father do"

and the MAN with the BODY must be God the FATHER since
Jesus Christ HAD NOT HAD a BODY MADE by MARY yet,

you claim that's just PREPOSTEROUS: but the fact is,
EVERYTHING YOU SAY about the whole EPISODE is PREPOSTEROUS;

and the REALIZATION GOD the FATHER MUST have had a body
to complete
HALF a MALE
ZYGOTE
in MARY

is YET ANOTHER TORPEDO to your SUNK SHIP.

Everywhere you look: your FABRICATION about there BEING no
GOD the ETERNAL FATHER
(The guy Jesus Christ Prayed Aloud to, for THREE YEARS in PUBLIC)

is shot down.

Everywher you look: your FABRICATION about there being no MAN who had a BODY who was GOD:

SHOT DOWN.

GOD the MAN wrestles Jacob.
GOD the MAN fathers Jesus Christ.
GOD the MAN speaks, approving of Jesus
GOD the MAN shows himself to MOSES
GOD the MAN speaks to Adam
GOD the MAN forms Adam in his image

Pfft the delusional filth you're here to peddle doesn't even pass the laugh test from the point of view of OVERVIEW

much less serious examination because THE STORY of JACOB ALONE ends all your hope for ever winning another argument about God.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16579 Oct 5, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You do love to put words in peoples mouths. Anyhow, going past your ignorance, the former Ms. Young never remarried. What an idiot.
You LYING GRUB

"Moses R. Denning

After her divorce from Brigham Young, she married 53-year-old Moses R. Denning of Manistee, Michigan,[5] a non-Mormon and wealthy logger known to have only one arm.[11][12] Two years prior to her marriage to Denning, Ann Eliza stayed at the home of Denning, who at the time was married with children.[12] Because of Denning's financial stability, Ann Eliza lost interest in her crusade against Mormonism and polygamy and stopped delivering lectures the week she married Denning.[11][13] She eventually became estranged from her family, including her children (a grandson told Wallace that neither of her sons had contact with her after they reached early adulthood). In 1930, her older grandson told Wallace "I hope to hell I never see her again."[14]
Divorce

Denning later left Ann Eliza after a series of alleged affairs she'd had with local townsmen.[15] Ann Eliza retaliated on the advice of her attorney by charging large amounts of money to Denning's accounts, as she had previously done in her divorce from Brigham Young. According to Wallace, "she bought a thousand dollars worth of groceries and provisions, dry goods, shoes, slippers, furniture and hardware in a couple of days."[16]

A 1907 article on the 30th anniversary of Young's death updated the public on his then surviving widows and stated that Ann Eliza was divorced for the third time and living in Lansing, Michigan. The 1900 U.S. census had reported her living in Breckenridge, Summit County, Colorado.[17] Ann Eliza would eventually return to Utah to claim a $2,000 legacy from her first husband, whom she had previously described as the "blight of my life."[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Eliza_Young
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16580 Oct 5, 2012
Now since you can't find anything that isn't INSTANTLY REFUTABLE inside

T.H.R.E.E. MINUTES,

we're going to consider you decided the FATHER of LIES is YOUR BEST BET.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16581 Oct 5, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
By the way, Hosea said that Jacob wrestled with an angel:
Hosea 12:4 (NASB)
4 Yes, he wrestled with the angel and prevailed;
He wept and sought His favor.
He found Him at Bethel
And there He spoke with us,
LOL!!!
And, since the man's very N.A.M.E. was C.H.A.N.G.E.D. by

E.L.O.H.I.M. with W.H.O.M. he OBVIOUSLY WAS DEALING

to I WRESTLED WITH ELOHIM,

the hosea reference SEEMS LIKE God,

being a messenger,

for God, doesn't it.

And if Jesus Christ IS THE GOD of the NEW TESTAMENT
but they knew Jacob would pursue the course of grabbing and holding him,

(he had done this to his brother Esau in the womb,)

and HE SENT HIS FATHER,
GOD the ETERNAL FATHER,

who was a GOD

who was a MAN

who had a BODY,

then GOD the FATHER
would BE MESSENGER for GOD the SON,

in THAT

INSTANCE -

truly the messenger of GOD,

yet Jacob could be NAMED

the MAN

who WRESTLED with GOD.

Because he did.

Because that GOD who was the MESSENGER of GOD

said let go of me.

You must chug more stupid juice than a bunch of carnival people after a rained out show in Minnesota.

Since: Sep 12

Forsyth, MO

#16582 Oct 5, 2012
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS wrote:
<quoted text>And, since the man's very N.A.M.E. was C.H.A.N.G.E.D. by

E.L.O.H.I.M. with W.H.O.M. he OBVIOUSLY WAS DEALING

to I WRESTLED WITH ELOHIM,

the hosea reference SEEMS LIKE God,

being a messenger,

for God, doesn't it.

And if Jesus Christ IS THE GOD of the NEW TESTAMENT
but they knew Jacob would pursue the course of grabbing and holding him,

(he had done this to his brother Esau in the womb,)

and HE SENT HIS FATHER,
GOD the ETERNAL FATHER,

who was a GOD

who was a MAN

who had a BODY,

then GOD the FATHER
would BE MESSENGER for GOD the SON,

in THAT

INSTANCE -

truly the messenger of GOD,

yet Jacob could be NAMED

the MAN

who WRESTLED with GOD.

Because he did.

Because that GOD who was the MESSENGER of GOD

said let go of me.

You must chug more stupid juice than a bunch of carnival people after a rained out show in Minnesota.
Can you write normally, using correct punctuation? Your postings are very difficult to read and disjointed. Without using proper grammar and punctuation, your posts make little to no sense.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16583 Oct 5, 2012
Sure why not.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16584 Oct 5, 2012
And, since the man's very name was changed by Elohim with whom he obviously was dealing to "I wrestled with Elohim", the Hosea reference seems like God, being a messenger, for God, doesn't it.

And if Jesus Christ IS THE GOD of the NEW TESTAMENT
but they knew Jacob would pursue the course of grabbing and holding him,

(he had done this to his brother Esau in the womb,)

and he sent his father, God the Father, who was a God, who was a man, who had a body, then God the Father would be messenger for God the Son, in that instance - truly the messenger of GOD -

yet Jacob could be named the man who wrestled with God. Because he did. Because that God who was the messenger of God, said let go of me.

You must chug more stupid juice than a bunch of carnival people after a rained out show in Minnesota.

Since: Sep 12

Forsyth, MO

#16585 Oct 5, 2012
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS wrote:
Sure why not.
Thanks.
NOMO HOMO PAGANISMS

Yuba City, CA

#16586 Oct 5, 2012
Np.
ConchaPena

Albuquerque, NM

#16587 Oct 5, 2012
all of you doubters become CATHOLIC and you will KNOW the TRUTH, believe and you will be saved.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#16588 Oct 5, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you do have piercings. >:-)
oh the shame.... Wait. I have none. Oops :P

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