Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#21188 Mar 5, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Coming from a dancer of words and statements as your self, I guess that's a compliment eh?:)P
Nope.

Since: Sep 12

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#21189 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Simple. God didn't say as much.
Are the books in the current Bible all that we should consider scripture?

Since: Jan 13

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#21190 Mar 5, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>Are the books in the current Bible all that we should consider scripture?
Lol Are you referring to the Maya again? Cause human sacrificing pagans are an excellent representation of God's word.

Since: Sep 12

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#21191 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol Are you referring to the Maya again? Cause human sacrificing pagans are an excellent representation of God's word.
When did I refer to the Maya?
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY

Live Oak, CA

#21192 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol Are you referring to the Maya again? Cause human sacrificing pagans are an excellent representation of God's word.
You should know.

After spending the Dark Ages wiping your butts on pages from Bibles,

after enslaving everything that even LOOKED African for 600 years,

after starting World War I,

after starting World War II,

after setting up civilizations with numbers that look like they're for the employees of a Bankok whorehouse,

YOU SHOULD KNOW about FALLEN,

NON-CHRISTIAN SOCIETIES.

Jesus Christ told us "by their fruits you shall know them."

Your churches' fruits are a bunch of little-boy lap-dance loving cross dressing queens

and the Dark Ages,
two world wars,

and the modern world, which OUR PROPHET SAW CLEARLY: "1 Nephi 13:1
1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying:
Look! And I looked and beheld many nations and kingdoms.

1 Nephi 13:2
2 And the angel said unto me: What beholdest thou? And I said:
I behold many nations and kingdoms.

1 Nephi 13:3
3 And he said unto me: These are the nations and kingdoms of the
Gentiles.

1 Nephi 13:4
4 And it came to pass that I saw among the nations of the
Gentiles the formation of a great church.

1 Nephi 13:5
5 And the angel said unto me: Behold the formation of a church
which is most abominable above all other churches, which slayeth
the saints of God, yea, and tortureth them and bindeth them down,
and yoketh them with a yoke of iron, and bringeth them down into
captivity.

1 Nephi 13:6
6 And it came to pass that I beheld this great and abominable
church; and I saw the devil that he was the founder of it.

1 Nephi 13:7
7 And I also saw gold, and silver, and silks, and scarlets, and
fine-twined linen, and all manner of precious clothing; and I saw
many harlots.

1 Nephi 13:8
8 And the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold the gold, and the
silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined
linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the
desires of this great and abominable church.

1 Nephi 13:9
9 And also for the praise of the world do they destroy the
saints of God, and bring them down into captivity."

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#21193 Mar 5, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>When did I refer to the Maya?
Must have gotten you confused with someone else on here. Still. There is no definitive proof to support your claim.
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY

Live Oak, CA

#21194 Mar 5, 2013
So we saw you coming a LONG time in advance. And we knew you'd be among an ocean of lying, self-centered whores who couldn't be told right from wrong,

and we knew your church friends would laugh about murder

and practice every form of evil,

telling God's prophets to "PROVE it."

You're a hick and a whore from a society of whoring hicks,

here to challenge people about the God of Abraham having to 'PROVE' it.

He "PROVED" it when he described YOU, to a T,

coming in here sounding like some New Jersey hooker.

The scriptures describing you are there. Read and abide and obey them or perish filthy to be resurrected 'filthy still'

saying 'prove it.'

LIKE I TOLD YOU: he PROVED it when HE SAID YOU'D COME DOWN THE ROAD,

out of an ocean of HOOKERS,

scoffing 'PROVE' it.

It's ALREADY been proved.

YOU'RE PROOF IT'S TRUE.
You are Not my Boss

Carnegie, PA

#21195 Mar 5, 2013
They are talented for sure...

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#21196 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Must have gotten you confused with someone else on here. Still. There is no definitive proof to support your claim.
Oh, ok. No worries. You are responding to a lot of stuff.

Which claim are you referring to? The last thing I said was "Are the books in the current Bible all that we should consider scripture?"

What would you consider definitive proof? By that definition, is there definitive proof that anything happened during the meridian of time?

I have given scriptures as proof and you blew them off saying that you didn't have time for them.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#21197 Mar 5, 2013
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY wrote:
<quoted text>You should know.

After spending the Dark Ages wiping your butts on pages from Bibles,

after enslaving everything that even LOOKED African for 600 years,

after starting World War I,

after starting World War II,

after setting up civilizations with numbers that look like they're for the employees of a Bankok whorehouse,

YOU SHOULD KNOW about FALLEN,

NON-CHRISTIAN SOCIETIES.

Jesus Christ told us "by their fruits you shall know them."

Your churches' fruits are a bunch of little-boy lap-dance loving cross dressing queens

and the Dark Ages,
two world wars,

and the modern world, which OUR PROPHET SAW CLEARLY: "1 Nephi 13:1
1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying:
Look! And I looked and beheld many nations and kingdoms.

1 Nephi 13:2
2 And the angel said unto me: What beholdest thou? And I said:
I behold many nations and kingdoms.

1 Nephi 13:3
3 And he said unto me: These are the nations and kingdoms of the
Gentiles.

1 Nephi 13:4
4 And it came to pass that I saw among the nations of the
Gentiles the formation of a great church.

1 Nephi 13:5
5 And the angel said unto me: Behold the formation of a church
which is most abominable above all other churches, which slayeth
the saints of God, yea, and tortureth them and bindeth them down,
and yoketh them with a yoke of iron, and bringeth them down into
captivity.

1 Nephi 13:6
6 And it came to pass that I beheld this great and abominable
church; and I saw the devil that he was the founder of it.

1 Nephi 13:7
7 And I also saw gold, and silver, and silks, and scarlets, and
fine-twined linen, and all manner of precious clothing; and I saw
many harlots.

1 Nephi 13:8
8 And the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold the gold, and the
silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined
linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the
desires of this great and abominable church.

1 Nephi 13:9
9 And also for the praise of the world do they destroy the
saints of God, and bring them down into captivity."
Exactly who do you believe in again? I fail to see your point as you are all over the place. Do you even have an opinion or are you just here to start shit?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#21198 Mar 5, 2013
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY wrote:
<quoted text>
You should know.
After spending the Dark Ages wiping your butts on pages from Bibles,
after enslaving everything that even LOOKED African for 600 years,
after starting World War I,
after starting World War II,
after setting up civilizations with numbers that look like they're for the employees of a Bankok whorehouse,
YOU SHOULD KNOW about FALLEN,
NON-CHRISTIAN SOCIETIES.
Jesus Christ told us "by their fruits you shall know them."
Your churches' fruits are a bunch of little-boy lap-dance loving cross dressing queens
and the Dark Ages,
two world wars,
and the modern world, which OUR PROPHET SAW CLEARLY: "1 Nephi 13:1
1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying:
Look! And I looked and beheld many nations and kingdoms.
1 Nephi 13:2
2 And the angel said unto me: What beholdest thou? And I said:
I behold many nations and kingdoms.
1 Nephi 13:3
3 And he said unto me: These are the nations and kingdoms of the
Gentiles.
1 Nephi 13:4
4 And it came to pass that I saw among the nations of the
Gentiles the formation of a great church.
1 Nephi 13:5
5 And the angel said unto me: Behold the formation of a church
which is most abominable above all other churches, which slayeth
the saints of God, yea, and tortureth them and bindeth them down,
and yoketh them with a yoke of iron, and bringeth them down into
captivity.
1 Nephi 13:6
6 And it came to pass that I beheld this great and abominable
church; and I saw the devil that he was the founder of it.
1 Nephi 13:7
7 And I also saw gold, and silver, and silks, and scarlets, and
fine-twined linen, and all manner of precious clothing; and I saw
many harlots.
1 Nephi 13:8
8 And the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold the gold, and the
silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined
linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the
desires of this great and abominable church.
1 Nephi 13:9
9 And also for the praise of the world do they destroy the
saints of God, and bring them down into captivity."
The real Jesus isn't a liar, and he really said:
Matthew 16:18
I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

That alone makes the LDS church false.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#21200 Mar 5, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, ok. No worries. You are responding to a lot of stuff.

Which claim are you referring to? The last thing I said was "Are the books in the current Bible all that we should consider scripture?"

What would you consider definitive proof? By that definition, is there definitive proof that anything happened during the meridian of time?

I have given scriptures as proof and you blew them off saying that you didn't have time for them.
Lol Careful, brother. You're starting to sound like an atheist. I have attended a Mormon church before. Briefly. I've even read a little of the book of Mormon. I have even met some very sweet Elders. However any denomination can quote Scripture to support their beliefs, but that doesn't make it true. The devil himself can quote Scripture. The truth still remains the same. Did God himself appoint Joseph Smith a prophet? I don't think so. Many people have claimed to be prophets throughout the years. That doesn't mean what they've said was true.
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY

Live Oak, CA

#21201 Mar 5, 2013
It's an odd thing to come to a place where people claim God showed men the current generation and that they would all be a generation of lying, murderous intoxicated whores,

and realize you're one of the ones He was talking to us about,

isn't it?

You need to read the book of Mormon and shut up

your scoffing until you can truly say you read the

book comparing it to the Bible, cover to cover.

Because if you think I'm glib about telling you, that you're from a generation of whores headed to hell,
intoxicated and rich,
with money everywhere

but everybody claiming they're broke,

I assure you of God's willingness to let you go with the idea you'll claim that I "offended you" at the last day,

and that's why you're getting back into Mom & Dad's kingdom to act like a smartassed natty, rebellious whore.

Not gonna happen.

He'll tell me personally to throw you out,
and I'll do it
like I helped kick out the last third who told them they took over, were running the place, and if they weren't, "PROVE IT."

I PROVED it

when THE SCRIPTURES TALKED ABOUT YOU BEING WHO
and WHAT
you ARE -

and I looked around the corner and HERE YOU CAME

acting like a HICK
talking like a HOOKER.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#21202 Mar 5, 2013
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY wrote:
It's an odd thing to come to a place where people claim God showed men the current generation and that they would all be a generation of lying, murderous intoxicated whores,

and realize you're one of the ones He was talking to us about,

isn't it?

You need to read the book of Mormon and shut up

your scoffing until you can truly say you read the

book comparing it to the Bible, cover to cover.

Because if you think I'm glib about telling you, that you're from a generation of whores headed to hell,
intoxicated and rich,
with money everywhere

but everybody claiming they're broke,

I assure you of God's willingness to let you go with the idea you'll claim that I "offended you" at the last day,

and that's why you're getting back into Mom & Dad's kingdom to act like a smartassed natty, rebellious whore.

Not gonna happen.

He'll tell me personally to throw you out,
and I'll do it
like I helped kick out the last third who told them they took over, were running the place, and if they weren't, "PROVE IT."

I PROVED it

when THE SCRIPTURES TALKED ABOUT YOU BEING WHO
and WHAT
you ARE -

and I looked around the corner and HERE YOU CAME

acting like a HICK
talking like a HOOKER.
Again, you believe in who/what exactly? You're acting like an idiot and talking out of your ass.
GOOGLE JEWISH POLYGAMY

Live Oak, CA

#21203 Mar 5, 2013
That's our 'PROOF'.

Do YOU EXIST.

IF yes

then

PROVEN = yes.

Sucks to be a stupid ambushing Satanic hick on the internet, doesn't it.

Before, God had it set up so that if I told you the truth, you'd have your male friends,

murder me.

But he told me he'd see to it that in the last days,

EVERYBODY could be told, and that the GOOD GUYS WOULDN'T ALL BE MURDERED TELLING YOU

about yourself.

And that you'd snarl and bite and lie and cheat and steal:

but that LIGHT would GO FORTH unto TELLING YOU

and I'LL NOT GET MURDERED for it and that YOU'LL be PISSED.

Well, screw you. I've got another several billion with the same sh*tty attitude,

and I'll have every one of THEM broke, before the last day.

You bet your

birth control prescription

on it.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#21204 Mar 5, 2013
It's definitive. Google has no point whatsoever. He's just another idiot rambling out his ass.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#21205 Mar 5, 2013
Religious freaks are just so lost!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#21206 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol Careful, brother. You're starting to sound like an atheist. I have attended a Mormon church before. Briefly. I've even read a little of the book of Mormon. I have even met some very sweet Elders. However any denomination can quote Scripture to support their beliefs, but that doesn't make it true. The devil himself can quote Scripture. The truth still remains the same. Did God himself appoint Joseph Smith a prophet? I don't think so. Many people have claimed to be prophets throughout the years. That doesn't mean what they've said was true.
This is where we get into a circular argument...

I say: Joseph Smith was appointed by the voice of God himself.
You say: Where?
I say: In the Doctrine & Covenants
You say: There is no more scripture after the Bible
I say: Why not?
You say: That is not proof
I say: Here are some scriptures for proof
You say: Anyone can quote scriptures, they don't prove anything
I say: But the scriptures are the word of God
You say: But scriptures can be take out of context, its called "cherry picking"
I say: But but but
You say: See, there is no proof
I say: You're right, because you're not giving me anything to work with here. I ask for what you would call proof and you don't tell me. I ask for how you would know if God spoke in other scriptures and you don't tell me. If I don't know what you are looking for, I can't help you find it.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#21207 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol Careful, brother. You're starting to sound like an atheist. I have attended a Mormon church before. Briefly. I've even read a little of the book of Mormon. I have even met some very sweet Elders. However any denomination can quote Scripture to support their beliefs, but that doesn't make it true. The devil himself can quote Scripture. The truth still remains the same. Did God himself appoint Joseph Smith a prophet? I don't think so. Many people have claimed to be prophets throughout the years. That doesn't mean what they've said was true.
What did you read about in the Book of Mormon? What did you think about it? What did you think about the church service?

Since: Jan 13

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#21209 Mar 5, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>This is where we get into a circular argument...

I say: Joseph Smith was appointed by the voice of God himself.
You say: Where?
I say: In the Doctrine & Covenants
You say: There is no more scripture after the Bible
I say: Why not?
You say: That is not proof
I say: Here are some scriptures for proof
You say: Anyone can quote scriptures, they don't prove anything
I say: But the scriptures are the word of God
You say: But scriptures can be take out of context, its called "cherry picking"
I say: But but but
You say: See, there is no proof
I say: You're right, because you're not giving me anything to work with here. I ask for what you would call proof and you don't tell me. I ask for how you would know if God spoke in other scriptures and you don't tell me. If I don't know what you are looking for, I can't help you find it.
Brother, I'm not lost.

It should be quite obvious that present scholarship has revealed that Joseph Smith did not translate the Book of Abraham by the power of God as he had claimed. It follows that if he did not translate the Book of Abraham by the power of God, then it would be very easy to conclude that he did not translate the Book of Mormon by the power of God either.

When Joseph first gave his translation, hieroglyphics were undecipherable. Today they are. He was safe in saying anything he wanted to and there would be no way of proving him wrong. But with the resurfacing of the same papyri he used to do his Book of Abraham translation, and the fact that he did not in any way do it correctly, should be proof enough that Joseph Smith lied about his abilities from God. He has been shown to be a false prophet.

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