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Does Jewish God love other nations besides Israel?

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MrsThunder

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#1 Oct 19, 2009
I have read bible hundred times. How come Jewish God only loves Israelites?
Are the other nations inferior.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#2 Oct 19, 2009
MrsThunder wrote:
I have read bible hundred times. How come Jewish God only loves Israelites?
Are the other nations inferior.
Jewish concept of G-d doesn't just love Israelites. Jewish concept of G-d loves believers in the monotheistic G-d of Abraham. If one believes in the 7 basic principles (Noahide laws), then the Jewish concept of G-d accepts and loves you.

Can you say the same for the "Christian G-d" or "Muslim G-d"?
Ehud

Tel Aviv, Israel

#3 Oct 20, 2009
MrsThunder wrote:
I have read bible hundred times. How come Jewish God only loves Israelites?
Are the other nations inferior.
By the bible, we are his people...
he chose to save us from Egypt, from all the nations.
also Jews was the only ones that following his commandments.
Christians and Muslemeis don't.

and by the bible, the first man was a Jew, what means that all the world suppost to be Jews. untill the Babylonian captivity,
when the Babylon tried to build a tower in order to reach God,
God was angry on that and he punished them by that they will speak in diffrent lagnuages, live in diffrent places, have difffrent culture and more.
before that the language that all humans spoke it's Akkadian.

also in Nowah's ark story, Nowah was the only rightous Jew on earth, so he picked to save him.
Ehud

Tel Aviv, Israel

#4 Oct 20, 2009
Christiany it's was a Jewish cult that became a religion few years later.
Jews started the Christiany, Islam copied from the Judaism. also Arabic copied from Hebrew.
Arabic it's hebrew with Arab expression.
Maverick

Houston, TX

#5 Oct 20, 2009
Eric wrote:
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Jewish concept of G-d doesn't just love Israelites. Jewish concept of G-d loves believers in the monotheistic G-d of Abraham. If one believes in the 7 basic principles (Noahide laws), then the Jewish concept of G-d accepts and loves you.
Can you say the same for the "Christian G-d" or "Muslim G-d"?
May I copy your post, give you credit, and post it in another forum?

I will write as, Eric wrote:

IMO this was well stated.
MrsThunder

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#6 Oct 20, 2009
So now Noah,Abraham are jews LOOOl
i though jewishness started from the tribe judah.

Tell me why israelites are the chosen people,doesnt this indicate that non-israelites are inferior. Also do u see difference between a nazi saying ''arians best nation'' and a jew saying ''jews best nation''.

p.s iam not christian,muslim or bahai
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#7 Oct 20, 2009
MrsThunder wrote:
So now Noah,Abraham are jews LOOOl
i though jewishness started from the tribe judah.
Tell me why israelites are the chosen people,doesnt this indicate that non-israelites are inferior. Also do u see difference between a nazi saying ''arians best nation'' and a jew saying ''jews best nation''.
p.s iam not christian,muslim or bahai
You miss my point. The Jewish concept of what is acceptable to G-d arises out of the part of Genesis where the story of Noah is related. Hence the idea of the 7 Noahide Laws. G-d before Judah; G-d after Judah. Same G-d; no difference. Because of these principles that stem from G-d's pronouncements in the story of Noah, Jews do not believe that one must be "of our nation" to be acceptable to G-d. To be acceptable to G-d one must merely follow the principles that G-d has set forth. There is no reason why one who is Christian, Muslim, B'hai, etc. cannot adopt these principles and still be true to their own faith.

Therefore, your original statement that G-d only loves the nation of Israel is not consistent with what is taught in the Tanakh nor the beliefs of the Jewish people.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#8 Oct 20, 2009
Maverick wrote:
<quoted text>May I copy your post, give you credit, and post it in another forum?
I will write as, Eric wrote:
IMO this was well stated.
sure, go ahead. I don't think there is anything there that is profound. It's just a statement of beliefs held by our people. No need to attribute it to me.
Sambee

Tuscaloosa, AL

#9 Oct 20, 2009
Ehud wrote:
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By the bible, we are his people...
he chose to save us from Egypt, from all the nations.
also Jews was the only ones that following his commandments.
Christians and Muslemeis don't.
and by the bible, the first man was a Jew, what means that all the world suppost to be Jews. untill the Babylonian captivity,
when the Babylon tried to build a tower in order to reach God,
God was angry on that and he punished them by that they will speak in diffrent lagnuages, live in diffrent places, have difffrent culture and more.
before that the language that all humans spoke it's Akkadian.
also in Nowah's ark story, Nowah was the only rightous Jew on earth, so he picked to save him.
Noah being the only one too keep the commandments kind of blows a hole in your concept that only Jews keep the commandments wouldn't you say? Scriptures shows that the Israelites didn't always walk in Yahweh's lawsthis is why the Gentiles were garfted in.Not too add that many of the traditions added to Yahweh's laws by the Jews were rejected by Yahshua.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#10 Oct 20, 2009
Eric wrote:
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Jewish concept of G-d doesn't just love Israelites. Jewish concept of G-d loves believers in the monotheistic G-d of Abraham. If one believes in the 7 basic principles (Noahide laws), then the Jewish concept of G-d accepts and loves you.
Can you say the same for the "Christian G-d" or "Muslim G-d"?
The Christian concept of God is this, it does not matter that you are A LIAR, A THIEF, A MURDERER AN ADULTERER, A COVETEOUS PERSON, A SABBATH BREAKER or A HATER OF OTHERS the Eternal loves you.

We know from scripture that the Creator does not suffer from Multiple Personality disorder. Therefore, I know that in dealing with Him I don’t have to worry about which of the multiple personalities I will meet.

I know and am confident that Noah met the SAME personality as Abraham etc. and given that He is the same personality I know that He has ONE Law for all His Children.
Maverick

Houston, TX

#11 Oct 20, 2009
MrsThunder wrote:
So now Noah,Abraham are jews LOOOl
i though jewishness started from the tribe judah.
Tell me why israelites are the chosen people,doesnt this indicate that non-israelites are inferior. Also do u see difference between a nazi saying ''arians best nation'' and a jew saying ''jews best nation''.
p.s iam not christian,muslim or bahai
It is not that Israelites are better than other folks.

It is that G-d chose the Israelites for Himself.

Deuteronomy 7:7-9,“The LORD did not set His affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples.

But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath He swore to your forefathers that He brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Know therefore that the LORD your G-d is G-d; He is the faithful G-d, keeping His covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love Him and keep His commands.”
Maverick

Houston, TX

#12 Oct 20, 2009
Sambee wrote:
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Noah being the only one too keep the commandments kind of blows a hole in your concept that only Jews keep the commandments wouldn't you say? Scriptures shows that the Israelites didn't always walk in Yahweh's lawsthis is why the Gentiles were garfted in.Not too add that many of the traditions added to Yahweh's laws by the Jews were rejected by Yahshua.
Please show in the Tanakh where it states that gentiles were grafted into Israel.

I believe that you are speaking your stance from the New Testament which many Christians have stated in forums.
Maverick

Houston, TX

#13 Oct 20, 2009
Eric wrote:
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sure, go ahead. I don't think there is anything there that is profound. It's just a statement of beliefs held by our people. No need to attribute it to me.
I have been telling quite a few gentiles about the Noahide laws.
Ehud

Tel Aviv, Israel

#14 Oct 21, 2009
Sambee wrote:
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Noah being the only one too keep the commandments kind of blows a hole in your concept that only Jews keep the commandments wouldn't you say? Scriptures shows that the Israelites didn't always walk in Yahweh's lawsthis is why the Gentiles were garfted in.Not too add that many of the traditions added to Yahweh's laws by the Jews were rejected by Yahshua.
I know Israelites didn't allways kept teh commandments,
there is many tiems in the bible that the Jews didn't kept the commandments.

and i didn't said that all Jews, only very small part of Jews.
But only those small part of Jews keeping the commandments.

What religion also keeping the Shabbat?

and not all Orthodox are keeping the commandments.
there is a lot of Orthodox Jews that using the religion for stealing , not serve in the army and to do crimes.

So there is only very small part of them that really keeping the caommandments.

Since: Apr 09

AOL

#15 Oct 21, 2009
MrsThunder wrote:
So now Noah,Abraham are jews LOOOl
i though jewishness started from the tribe judah.
Tell me why israelites are the chosen people,doesnt this indicate that non-israelites are inferior. Also do u see difference between a nazi saying ''arians best nation'' and a jew saying ''jews best nation''.
p.s iam not christian,muslim or bahai
Greetings Mrs T.I always wanted to go see Amsterdam, but it wound up the other half of the planet I wandered about.

Either way,back to the question.

Chosen doesn't mean we're better and walk around wearing a "Dad likes me best" t shirt.It means chosen to be given the laws of Torah and to tell the world there is only the One God.

The Creator loves all His children.If it looks that the nations are going to be punished in the bible,it is because of going against what God wants.Is it only the nations that get punished for going against what He wants? Look at all the times Israel got "smacked" for not listening.The bible does show in the end times that all nations,which Israel is also a nation, will go up to Jerusalem.Obviously this makes more sence in a figurative sence since the population of the world couldn't fit in the entire land of Israel,nevermind Jerusalem.

The Talmud poses the question of why did God create the world with only two people instead of fully populated as with the animals and plants? The answer given is so no man can say ,"My father is greater than your father.". It also states,Tosefta,Saheddrin 13:The righteous of all nations have a share in the World to Come.

Pirkei Avot,the Wisdom of the Fathers, says: Avos4:3:Do not despise any man.

The you have the Kabbalistic writings like in the Zohar:
Tana DeBei Eliahu Rabbah 9: I call heaven and earth as witnesses:Any individual,whether gentile or Jew,man or woman,servant or maid,can bring the Divine Presence upon himself in accordance to his deeds.

Be well
False statement here

Christchurch, New Zealand

#16 Nov 4, 2009
Ehud wrote:
Christiany it's was a Jewish cult that became a religion few years later.
Jews started the Christiany, Islam copied from the Judaism. also Arabic copied from Hebrew.
Arabic it's hebrew with Arab expression.
The word Jew(s) is slang for the reference to Judeans. Jacob received a new name from God and was known as Israel. The 12 sons of Jacob became the Nation God has chosen. When disobeying God’s guidance after King Salomon Israel broke up. Two houses named Judah and Benjamin was then known as the house of Judah. Therefore the slang name Jews. The first man was no Jew. Do your Bible Study correctly. The other ten that got lost which God “divorced” was known as the House of Israel. God told Israel to honour, worship and be example to all nations. Doesn’t mean God has chosen those nations. God loves Israel. To restore the 12 sons which is Israel in whole he had to send his son to come and fetch his bride. If divorced God will break his own law taking Israel (bride) back? Yahweh (Jesus known to many) had to day for that the bride can remarried without breaking the Law. How blind are religions that there are not many that can not see this. Matt 10 and Matt 14 Yahweh said that He only came for the House of Israel. YES. Nobody ells. God said if He doesn’t come when He plans to come then nobody will be saved. Look around you!!!! Do you think that everything in this world in majority is doing what God’s expected? It is an illusion to falseness. This world claims that they know God but is wrong. 90% of the world is already loosed. Majority Christians believes in a God that doesn’t exist. The 12 disciples were told that they will judge the people of God (Israel). 12 entries into New Jerusalem for the 12 tribes of God. It is time that the truth gets spoken. Who is wise read and understand. Other will be angry and most will reject the truth or twist it for they are not CHOSEN.
Benjamin relative

Christchurch, New Zealand

#17 Nov 8, 2009
Correcting some spelling on above message from me...
"Yahweh (Jesus known to many) had to die for that the bride can remarried..."
"Matt 10 and Matt 15..."God told His Disciples that he only came for the "Lost Sheep of the House of Israel ( the 10 that is known since the days after King Salomon kingdom broke)

Some real clarity about current Jewish claimed people. Majority Jewish people today is not of true Jewish inheritance. I am of true Jewish inheritance and believe that out there my brothers and sisters (10 that got lost) are to be reunited as God promised. There are Jewish people around me that can not see that and denies the truth for they them selves are not chosen. After all they the so claimed Jewish people crucified Yahweh. They do not therefore recognise Yahweh as He should be. Looking at history they are related to Esau,(brother of Jacob). Israel will become great again but God will call for them of all the wind directions to come forward. Can the 10 today be found…most likely not by name (12 sons of Jacob). Can they be identified….YES!!!
If born in America but you are not of true American you are not American. If you take Judaism as a religion that doesn’t make you a Jew. The answer is in the BLOOD. You have to be related through Abraham. Isaac, Jacob and his 12 Sons ONLY.
Maverick

Houston, TX

#18 Nov 9, 2009
Benjamin relative wrote:
Correcting some spelling on above message from me...
"Yahweh (Jesus known to many) had to die for that the bride can remarried..."
"Matt 10 and Matt 15..."God told His Disciples that he only came for the "Lost Sheep of the House of Israel ( the 10 that is known since the days after King Salomon kingdom broke)
Some real clarity about current Jewish claimed people. Majority Jewish people today is not of true Jewish inheritance. I am of true Jewish inheritance and believe that out there my brothers and sisters (10 that got lost) are to be reunited as God promised. There are Jewish people around me that can not see that and denies the truth for they them selves are not chosen. After all they the so claimed Jewish people crucified Yahweh. They do not therefore recognise Yahweh as He should be. Looking at history they are related to Esau,(brother of Jacob). Israel will become great again but God will call for them of all the wind directions to come forward. Can the 10 today be found…most likely not by name (12 sons of Jacob). Can they be identified….YES!!!
If born in America but you are not of true American you are not American. If you take Judaism as a religion that doesn’t make you a Jew. The answer is in the BLOOD. You have to be related through Abraham. Isaac, Jacob and his 12 Sons ONLY.
Are you a Christian?
Benjamin relative

Christchurch, New Zealand

#19 Nov 9, 2009
YES I am Christian that found the truth.
Benjamin relative

Christchurch, New Zealand

#20 Nov 9, 2009
Jewish-Christain to be exact.

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