Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#287 Aug 31, 2012
HughBe wrote:
Information for those with the capacity and so not for the two half-wits.
"A person claiming SELF_DEFENSE must PROVE at trial that the self-defense was justified. "
Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#249 3 hrs ago
Because that's how it works. Self Defense is not automatic.

Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#255 2 hrs ago
OK, so I'm arrested for murder. And I tell the police it was self defense. So, the police automatically believe me and don't do any investigation. They just believe my self serving statement and move on. Right?
HughBe wrote:
Generally a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack. Nondeadly force can be used to repel either a nondeadly attack or a deadly attack"
"The book stirred controversy for stating that it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence endangers Jewish life.

Definition of endanger: "To expose to harm or danger; imperil."

So, what's your problem?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#288 Aug 31, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#249 3 hrs ago
Because that's how it works. Self Defense is not automatic.
Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#255 2 hrs ago
OK, so I'm arrested for murder. And I tell the police it was self defense. So, the police automatically believe me and don't do any investigation. They just believe my self serving statement and move on. Right?
<quoted text>
"The book stirred controversy for stating that it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence endangers Jewish life.
Definition of endanger: "To expose to harm or danger; imperil."
So, what's your problem?
Thank you for confirming my following words, with your post above.

Information for those with the CAPACITY and so NOT for the two half-wits.
"A person claiming SELF_DEFENSE must PROVE at trial that the self-defense was justified. "
----------

Your post above is nonsense. I am not moved to say anything beyond that at this time. After Sabbath I shall demonstrate that what you wrote was pure CS. It seems to me that you like chicken.

May I ask, do you normally eat the backside/entrails of the chicken? I ask because I am trying to determine the source of your CS arguments. Then again it could be the result of the resident Satan within you. Get it exorcised as soon as possible even on this Sabbath.

Have a holy and blessed Sabbath for such is the will of God that ALL men should take hold of His Sabbath and worship Him in spirit and in truth.
Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#289 Sep 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
May I ask, do you normally eat the backside/entrails of the chicken?
Entrails--animal's intestines or internal organs.

What do you have against chitterlings and gizzards?

Chitterlings are a classic African American/Creole/Southern dish. There is a food preparer in Chicago owned by a Jewish guy who mass produces chitterlings for the soul food market.

And, what do you have against sausage? What do you think sausage is wrapped in? Oh, and kishke. mmmmmmm kishke.

As to chicken gizzards (livers, gizzards and hearts), when I was in college they would serve fried chicken once a week. Of course chicken for thousands of kids had a bi-product of copious amounts of gizzards. The food service would fry those too, and put them on the self serve line. The white, Christian kids wouldn't touch them. But, the Black kids and Jewish kids had a feast.

My mom used to make gizzards in a red sauce and serve them over rice or mashed potatoes. mmmmm pupiklekh.

And, chopped chicken livers. A special treat. Made with that wonderful Jewish invention--schmaltz. And what goes into schmaltz? Along with the excess fat and skin from the chicken--the chicken tail. Rendered with onions. mmmmm schmaltz. mmmm chopped chicken livers.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#290 Sep 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for confirming my following words, with your post above.
Information for those with the CAPACITY and so NOT for the two half-wits.
"A person claiming SELF_DEFENSE must PROVE at trial that the self-defense was justified. "
----------
Your post above is nonsense. I am not moved to say anything beyond that at this time. After Sabbath I shall demonstrate that what you wrote was pure CS. It seems to me that you like chicken.
May I ask, do you normally eat the backside/entrails of the chicken? I ask because I am trying to determine the source of your CS arguments. Then again it could be the result of the resident Satan within you. Get it exorcised as soon as possible even on this Sabbath.
Have a holy and blessed Sabbath for such is the will of God that ALL men should take hold of His Sabbath and worship Him in spirit and in truth.
Rabbi Hughbe -

unfinished business - Looking forwrd to your response:

FRIJOLES: Good. You actually READ the article

Objective 1 - finished

Now, on to the second objective - Who wrote the article? What Rabbi does the author follow?

And what does that say about the nature of the ISraeli society - that a fellow religious Jew can CONDEMN openly, in the international news media, a state sponsored Rabbi? Would the same happen in Iran to a Mullah?
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#291 Sep 2, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
And, chopped chicken livers. A special treat. Made with that wonderful Jewish invention--schmaltz. And what goes into schmaltz? Along with the excess fat and skin from the chicken--the chicken tail. Rendered with onions. mmmmm schmaltz. mmmm chopped chicken livers.
It is very rare to get REAL chopped liver these days.

Most of the time it is made with eggplant, and even the rare times it actually has liver, they skimp on the schmaltz. We may well be the last generation of Americanized Jews who have tasted the real thing.
Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#292 Sep 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very rare to get REAL chopped liver these days.
Most of the time it is made with eggplant, and even the rare times it actually has liver, they skimp on the schmaltz. We may well be the last generation of Americanized Jews who have tasted the real thing.
It's tough to find. The food police have all but eliminated it. My mother made her own schmaltz. My wife's mother used peanut oil in chopped liver. Yech! There are but a few delis where you can find schmaltz or chopped liver made from it.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#294 Sep 3, 2012
schmaltz: buy a chicken with fatty skin.
Boil the skin, skim of the fat and you have the basics as the term schmaltz indicates.

A lot easier than the twisted non-issues hugh be raises.

Paraphrased most lawbooks, penal code have: extenuated circumstance taken into account, killing would be allowed, when life or goods of nearest and dearest are in peril.

A trial will follow in any case, to examine if their was no other way.
if so the killer would be declared guilty of the act but free from persecution.

The point that is however also addressed in:
"The book stirred controversy for stating that it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence endangers Jewish life.

is; Whether non adherers to the jewish law would fall under the jewish law.

And using any brain anybody would understand that jew or jewish law can be replaced with f.i. English and England or any other national and nationality.
Well any American would not think twice about shooting an intruder, nationality or different law system would really not be on his/her mind.

International incidents are always a bummer.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#295 Sep 3, 2012
their-there

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#296 Sep 3, 2012
Grin
"...there, there, hugh be !"
"If yu cuss John crow peel head guinea hen vex."
Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#297 Sep 3, 2012
MAAT wrote:
schmaltz: buy a chicken with fatty skin.
Boil the skin, skim of the fat and you have the basics as the term schmaltz indicates.
I know some people boil, but my mother and bubbies just heated the skin and fat with just a sprinkle of water to get it started. Once the fat is liquefied and the skin is thoroughly fried, they'd strain out the skin and onion bits and put the schmaltz in the fridge. And then, there were the fried skin pieces -- gribenes (soul food it's called cracklings)-- to eat!.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#298 Sep 4, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#249 3 hrs ago
Because that's how it works. Self Defense is not automatic.
Eric
Mount Prospect, IL
|#255 2 hrs ago
OK, so I'm arrested for murder. And I tell the police it was self defense. So, the police automatically believe me and don't do any investigation. They just believe my self serving statement and move on. Right?
<quoted text>
"The book stirred controversy for stating that it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence endangers Jewish life.
Definition of endanger: "To expose to harm or danger; imperil."
So, what's your problem?
Eric---"The book stirred controversy for stating that it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence ENDANGERS Jewish life.

HughBe--- I want YOU to keep in mind the word ENDANGER and I want you to do something else, THINK and relate it to the SELF-DEFENSE that you spoke of in the given context.

Take your time and rest frequently. Give the brain time to recover during this new frontier of yours, THINKING.

Eric---Definition of endanger: "To expose to harm or danger; imperil."
So, what's your problem?

HughBe--- The problem is yours and not mine. Since you are incapable of identifying your problem let me spell it out for you.

YOUR problem is either you are incapable of doing what you are told to do i.e. tell me the DIFFERENCE between THREAT and ENDANGER or you believe that your foolish utterances are clever.

Take this from me, if you were doing ANY exam and you were asked to tell the DIFFERENCE between A and B and all that you do is to give the DEFINITION of ONE,as you have done in our exchanges, the examiners would know that they are dealing with an IDIOT and would give you 0%.

READ what follows SLOOOLY.

HughBe---Self-defense definition---The protection of one's person or property against some INJURY ATTEMPTED by another.(DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT LAWYER?)

What is the meaning of INJURY ATTEMPTED? Does it involve INTENTIONAL or UNINTENTIONAL actions?

Eric----Definition of endanger: "To expose to harm or danger; imperil."

HughBe--- Threat--a person or thing that is regarded as dangerous or LIKELY to INFLICT pain or misery

Can YOU tell the difference between YOUR definition of ENDANGER and my definition of Self-defense?

ENDANGER versus SELF-DEFENSE illustrated for you Eric, the simple.

Endanger example--- YOU are DRUNK,not intellectually this time, and yet you insist on DRIVING a car. Now, your driving while DRUNK ENDANGERS the lives of others on the road. Now based on the words of your rabbis, " it is permissible to kill a non-Jew if his presence ENDANGERS Jewish life", it would be PERMISSIBLE to kill YOU,if you are a non-Jew, because YOU have endangered JEWISH lives.

Get it?

What is the decree by your masters/rabbis about Jews ENDANGERING the lives of other Jews?

Do you know that some of your rabbis ENDANGER Jewish lives by the HATE that they teach?

Should they be charged with crimes against the Jewish people?

Having being equipped with new information above please answer/respond to the outstanding matters below.

What conditions would exist in order for YOU to be engaged in the SELF DEFENSE that you speak of? Could it be THREATENING conditions or could it be non-threatening ones?

Is it your habit to DEFEND yourself when there is no THREAT?

Sheer stupidity/EVIL have prevented YOU from seeing that true self-defense involves a THREAT.

Self-defense is a defense to certain criminal charges as well as to some civil claims. Under both Criminal Law and Tort Law, self-defense is commonly asserted in cases of Homicide, Assault and Battery, and other crimes involving the ATTEMPTED use of violence against an individual."

Do you consider "the ATTEMPTED use of violence against an individual" as a THREAT?

Now, STUDY this post.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#299 Sep 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Sheer stupidity/EVIL have prevented YOU from seeing that true self-defense involves a THREAT.
Do you drink lots of coffee in church?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#300 Sep 4, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Entrails--animal's intestines or internal organs.
What do you have against chitterlings and gizzards?
Chitterlings are a classic African American/Creole/Southern dish. There is a food preparer in Chicago owned by a Jewish guy who mass produces chitterlings for the soul food market.
And, what do you have against sausage? What do you think sausage is wrapped in? Oh, and kishke. mmmmmmm kishke.
As to chicken gizzards (livers, gizzards and hearts), when I was in college they would serve fried chicken once a week. Of course chicken for thousands of kids had a bi-product of copious amounts of gizzards. The food service would fry those too, and put them on the self serve line. The white, Christian kids wouldn't touch them. But, the Black kids and Jewish kids had a feast.
My mom used to make gizzards in a red sauce and serve them over rice or mashed potatoes. mmmmm pupiklekh.
And, chopped chicken livers. A special treat. Made with that wonderful Jewish invention--schmaltz. And what goes into schmaltz? Along with the excess fat and skin from the chicken--the chicken tail. Rendered with onions. mmmmm schmaltz. mmmm chopped chicken livers.
Frijoles to HughBe "a BLACK"---both of you are black. And all black people are the same

Eric to HughBe "a BLACK"---What do you have against chitterlings and gizzards? Chitterlings are a CLASSIC African AMERICAN/Creole/Southern dish

HughBe--- Am I an American? NO. So, telling me about "CLASSIC AFRICAN AMERICAN" food is nothing short of RACISM. There is no need to inject RACE into the food argument.

What is clear is that like many of their masters/rabbis these Judaites are RACISTS. They are not only RACISTS but they are DUNCES.

Everybody knows that FOOD is CULTURAL and not based on RACE.

I have explained to the DUNCES that I am NOT an American and there is a Massive DIFFERENCE between the cultures of Jamaica and that of America.

Our/Jamaica's national dish is the ackee and salt fish and it is eaten by ALL Jamaicans inclduing JEWS, INDIANS, Chinese, Syrians. Now how many Americans know about this dish? For the two dim-wits the dish that I speak of is NOT A CONTAINER, I'm speaking about FOOD.

Another example--- using another "BLACK" Caribbean country i.e.Barbados. There the national dish is "Coucou and flying is a recipe made with corn meal, okra, flying fish and topped with an aromatic sauce of tomato, onion, chives, thyme, fresh pepper, garlic and other herbs. The fish can be steamed, battered & fried or grilled. "

Now, I have never eaten the national dish of Barbados and I have NEVER had flying fish.

So I am not like the "blacks" and "whites" of Barbados in terms of eating that DISH.

Racists boys your religion is POISON.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#301 Sep 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you drink lots of coffee in church?
Frijoles---Do you drink lots of coffee in church?

HughBe--- I don't drink coffee. What do you drink in your synagogue?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#302 Sep 4, 2012
Have to go.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#303 Sep 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---Do you drink lots of coffee in church?
HughBe--- I don't drink coffee. What do you drink in your synagogue?
Blood of Jamaican children of course. You know this, you believe this, why do you ask?
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#304 Sep 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe--- Am I an American? NO. So, telling me about "CLASSIC AFRICAN AMERICAN" food is nothing short of RACISM. There is no need to inject RACE into the food argument.
I have Jamaican neighbors who happen, not accidentally, to be black. They enjoy many of the same foods that Eric has mentioned.

You can conclude whatever you want from that.

Just dont blame their food choices on the Rabbis.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#305 Sep 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I have Jamaican neighbors who happen, not accidentally, to be black. They enjoy many of the same foods that Eric has mentioned.
You can conclude whatever you want from that.
Just dont blame their food choices on the Rabbis.
Frijoles to HughBe "a BLACK"---both of you are black. And all black people are the same (Classical RACIST words)

Eric to HughBe---Chitterlings are a classic AFRICAN American/Creole/SOUTHERN dish. There is a food preparer in Chicago owned by a Jewish guy who mass produces chitterlings for the SOUL FOOD(black) market.(Racism)

Frijoles---I have Jamaican neighbors who happen, not accidentally, to be black. They enjoy many of the same foods that Eric has mentioned.

HughBe--- Truly your Jamaican neighbours are NOT accidentally BLACK they were born that way. In the same way the Jamaican "white" is not accidentally "white", they were born that way.

The fact that you cannot grasp this speaks to your STUPIDITY and HATE and RACISM. I am going to try and teach you this once more , Jamaica has "whites", JEWS, Indians, Chinese who are ALL Jamaicans. You cannot relate to this mix of races because in America you have ONLY "whites" as Americans.

WE or Jamaicans eat Jamaican foods including our national dish.

Getting back to your CS. First you have no CREDIBILITY and you LIE with ease and so what you have written is not believed.

Second, there are MANY Jamaicans who are VEGETARIANS and a highly significant number as well. Many don't eat pig flesh in any form including Adventists and Rastas and others like myself.

Your man/Eric knows that I don't eat unclean meat and so he was just being himself or a RACIST like you.

His question about a pig product "Chitterlings" is pure RACISM. I want you to note and UNDERSTAND his words "Chitterlings are a classic AFRICAN American/Creole/SOUTHERN dish. There is a food preparer in Chicago owned by a Jewish guy who mass produces chitterlings for the SOUL FOOD market."

1. DUNCE, we have no SOUL FOOD market here in Jamaica. It is a reference to your "blacks" in America.

2. DUNCE, note---classic AFRICAN American/Creole/SOUTHERN dish.

3. DUNCE--- His "classic AFRICAN American/Creole/SOUTHERN dish" does NOT = to a Jamaican dish.

Is there a "classic AFRICAN American/Creole/NORTHERN dish? Clearly NOT , DUNCE, he spoke in terms of SOUTHERN "blacks" and not NORTHERN.

You are just another DUNCE and RACIST like your Judaite man/eric. Keep your racism in your country you pathetic unmentionable matter.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#306 Sep 4, 2012
Hughbe,

You mean all BLACK people are not the same?

Does that mean that perhaps not all JEWISH people are the same?

Please help me understand this idea.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#307 Sep 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Your man/Eric knows that I don't eat unclean meat and so he was just being himself or a RACIST like you.
I guess I am missing something here. Why exactly is Eric a racist for commenting on the food traditions of African-Americans in the US.

You comment all the time on alledged misdeeds of the Jewish Rabbis. To us. By posting those comments, are you then assuming that we follow those Rabbis? Isnt that the same leap of logic - I mean they are Jewish, we are Jewish, we must all be the same.....

And finally, why is meat unclean? I know plenty of people who eat pork products and they appear to be reasonably healthy happy people.

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