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#1422 Feb 11, 2013
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/i...

And contradicted oft.

Great relations with the muslims...the offer their deserts to receive all the dead at judgement day.

Hmm i first thought it was a typo.
Given this folktale: Heaven and hell are the same, in both people get very long spoons. But in heaven they feed each other and in hell they don't.

Nah, it's going to be just deserts.

But a new theology as claimed by the panzer-pope?
I also read the letter 2005.

the Shoah, which was inspired by a neo-pagan racist ideology, worked courageously to foster reconciliation and improved understanding between Christians and Jews.

In laying the foundations for a renewed relationship between the Jewish People and the Church, Nostra Aetate stressed the need to overcome past prejudices, misunderstandings, indifference, and the language of contempt and hostility. The Declaration has been the occasion of greater mutual understanding and respect, cooperation and, often, friendship between Catholics and Jews. It has also challenged them to recognize their shared spiritual roots and to appreciate their rich heritage of faith in the One God, maker of heaven and earth, who established his covenant with the Chosen People, revealed his commandments and taught hope in those messianic promises which give confidence and comfort in the struggles of life.

Christians and Jews will offer an ever more compelling shared witness to the One God and his commandments, the sanctity of life, the promotion of human dignity, the rights of the family and the need to build a world of justice, reconciliation and peace for future generations.

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If you read nostre aetate you find respect for all ways of life.
Well tel that to gay people on whom all the evil of the world was heaped this year. Including feminism and the denial of womans sexual health rights (the right to say no agaist unwanted sex is denied, the condom issue) etc.

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#1423 Feb 12, 2013
FYI the word god was not even invented until the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus was written it stems from the proto German root gudan.
As a simple by the way!
You have no idea of the number of texts i plowed through to find the first menyion. Even finding Jesus in any shape or form i still can't correctly pin-point.
Western church-history makes it all look as if they actually kept check.
They did not.
All i know is that a russian bible is the only one that can be dated properly.
I took it that god came from:
A version of Gawd (old english first attestation in a Welsh copy) the syrian god of chance and enemy of YHWH.
Or from Goth since they spread a rule of terror and destruction to enforce christianity.
Gudean i would read as a form of 'good' or pointing to Judea. The man from Gudea.
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The gothic or rhunic swedish 'goth' is not related to the greek agathos-good.(fhutark, is a limited alphabet but that is want the Goths based their alphabet on.)
But in it's most original meaning it would be intertwined, fitting in it's circle of things belonging and part of the environment(a garden weed f.i.)
I got too Gu da an.
Gu-intertwined
da-god
an-one, only

So it's a descriptive god-term.
al or el is also the generic for god, as da is used.
So DA is more interesting as to it's origins.
Celtic DAGDA- GOOD GOD
an, can also be a diminuitive suffix.
ain, in hebrew-watersource

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#1424 Feb 12, 2013
Greek has no word for 'brother or 'son.
1. Adelphos
ah -thel-phos
connective particle + womb

huios
servant

1. countryman, or of one parent(or two),any fellow or man, a fellow believer, united to another by the bond of affection, associate in employment or office.
later brethren in christ:his brother by blood, all men, apostles, christians:all those exalted to the same heaveny place.

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#1425 Feb 12, 2013
No Word for Cousin

Because neither Hebrew nor Aramaic (the language spoken by Christ and his disciples) had a special word meaning "cousin," speakers of those languages could use either the word for "brother" or a circumlocution, such as "the son of my uncle." But circumlocutions are clumsy, so the Jews often used "brother."

The writers of the New Testament were brought up using the Aramaic equivalent of "brothers" to mean both cousins and sons of the same fatherplus other relatives and even non-relatives. When they wrote in Greek, they did the same thing the translators of the Septuagint did.[(The Septuagint was the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible; it was translated by Hellenistic Jews a century or two before Christs birth and was the version of the Bible from which most of the Old Testament quotations found in the New Testament are taken.)That's a fable, not based on fact given Eusebius list included. Not any corroborating sources. Plus DSS differences that are from those times]

In the Septuagint the Hebrew word that includes both brothers and cousins was translated as adelphos, which in Greek usually has the narrow meaning that the English "brother" has. Unlike Hebrew or Aramaic, Greek has a separate word for cousin, anepsios, but the translators of the Septuagint used adelphos, even for true cousins.

You might say they transliterated instead of translated, importing the Jewish idiom into the Greek Bible. They took an exact equivalent of the Hebrew word for "brother" and did not use adelphosin one place (for sons of the same parents), and anepsios in another (for cousins). This same usage was employed by the writers of the New Testament and passed into English translations of the Bible. To determine what "brethren" or "brother" or "sister" means in any one verse, we have to look at the context. When we do that, we see that insuperable problems arise if we assume that Mary had children other than Jesus.

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#1426 Feb 12, 2013
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/Did%...

The strange thing is ofcourse that they do not look at the actual context.
Presuming that untill (actually Gr. heos-till)presumes continues condition.
Till the earth was made would mean than: we are just thinking it is there.

Aristotle was the architect of creation by mind only, as in proving such things that can not be proven by argument alone.
The god-proof question.

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#1427 Feb 12, 2013
I find a lot of papers of christians that suggest hebrew and aramaic are the same.
Well the are not.

In one Josephus was put aside, though he is a contemporary and actual person and eyewittness of events in that time, as not having known jesus so less relevant than the hearsay gospels.:P O:o

Untill the at least 8th-9th century they only had the 4 gospels.(the earliest sources only three) Most writers however keep quoting paul a.s.o. to proof some linguistic point.

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#1428 Feb 12, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You could start with Genesis 1:1.
MAAT:You have to take the question literal.
Elohim but not god.
Codes Argenteus, gothic 6th century, seems to have been the first source: Gudan.
(christine M.)
Composed of:
GU-intertwined (as in the actual old meaning of good, fitting it's environment like a weed in a garden.)
DA-god
AN- one, only.
So even that is just a description.
The generic word for god would be like Al or El, DA.
And then we have to wait centuries to get to GAWD, wich resembles the syrian god of chance, enemy of YHWH in the Torah.

Eusebius gives the date of Ignatius's death as AA 2124 (2124 years after Adam), which would amount to the 11th year of Trajan's reign, i.e., A.D. 108.[9]

:)))The oldest source.
So what was that again about floods and bottlenecks occurring later?

DA
Did a language cheque, root.
But first i came upon:
Roumenian da-*da-ida-ita Latin.
Ita like sic meaning thus.
Often da =the
So i could reaso that also Theos-Deios-Da.
All those sites somehow presume that latin was the origin, but DA precedes latin.(I even came upon a cration site that claimed latin was the origin of hebrew. The examples all showed it the other way around, but some people just cant be helped.)
Hebrew david d-v-d beloved reciprocated innate.

End up with SUMERIAN DA-innate
Nabu or Nebu is also god of writing->sharp imprints, cuneiform->bu-sharp.
http://books.google.nl/books ...
DA-D-MU (the second a is dropped in pronounciation.
The corners are winddirections.
And the dadmu woud be all world, but depending on the cntxt can also mean locality, region.

MAAT wrote:
wiki etymology DA
usual connotation of /from/ the/yes
causative d+fem.a article: the
da
Ewe[edit] Noun da
1.bow
2.mother
3.snake
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correction made in quote.
DA appears to imply a symbiotic relationship.
Innate, intertwined, closely connected.
Whether it is used as YES or in other meanings.

Dalet's meaning is door, doorway, doorpost, lintel, path, pathway, way,womb, or to enter. Its literal meaning is door in Paleo-Hebrew.

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#1429 Feb 14, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubaid_period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

" Carter, Robert A. and Philip, Graham Beyond the Ubaid: Transformation and Integration in the Late Prehistoric Societies of the Middle East (Studies in Ancient Oriental Civilization, Number 63) The Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (2010) ISBN 978-1-885923-66-0 p.2, at http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/pubs/catalog/ ... ; "Radiometric data suggest that the whole Southern Mesopotamian Ubaid period, including Ubaid 0 and 5, is of immense duration, spanning nearly three millenia from about 6500 to 3800 B.C."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

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#1430 Feb 14, 2013
Ren Girard (born December 25, 1923) is a French historian, literary critic, and philosopher of social science. His work belongs to the tradition of anthropological philosophy. He is the author of nearly thirty books (see below), in which he developed the ideas of:

mimetic desire: all of our desires are borrowed from other people;
mimetic rivalry: all conflict originates in mimetic desire;
the scapegoat mechanism is the origin of sacrifice and the foundation of human culture, and religion was necessary in human evolution to control the violence that can come from mimetic rivalry;
the Bible reveals the three previous ideas and denounces the scapegoat mechanism.
Ren Girard's writings cover many areas. Although the reception of his work is different in each of these areas, there is a growing body of secondary literature that uses his hypotheses and ideas in the areas of literary criticism, critical theory, anthropology, theology, psychology, mythology, sociology, economics, cultural studies, and philosophy.

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#1431 Feb 14, 2013
http://thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.ht...
Did jesus really exist.
http://www.bibleandscience.com/archeology/exo...
IBSS- Biblical Archeolgy - Evidence of the Exodus from Egypt
http://www.biblearcheology.org/post/2011/02/0...
Who were the sons of god in genesis 6

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#1432 Feb 14, 2013
Apropos the first link. You might make it into a game: find the logic fallacies.
Not on the part of Celsus to name one, but the conclusions drawn than that: if a man he is not a myth, ergo he is god.

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#1434 Feb 14, 2013
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter....
The latest as of januari 2013
Given 500 forms of matter, dark matter is just one of them.

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#1435 Feb 15, 2013
http://www.sumerian.org/sumerfaq.htm

Facts and findings (some under dispute) about sumeria.

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#1436 Feb 15, 2013
Pacific (specific Fiji)manuscript collection
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search...

We find RA connected to a rock-god.
But without actually reading about it, that's all i can deduce from this long list.

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#1437 Feb 15, 2013
Leiden university.
A Hurrian origin hypothesis.(Best read with the Luvian thesis in mind)
https://docs.google.com/viewer...

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#1438 Feb 15, 2013
#1437 reading the thesis i immedeatly run into trouble with the meaning given to the lion glyph.
L or MA or H.
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#1439 Feb 15, 2013
Ill never get through this one. page 2 chapter 4.
We know the hebrews and other people had an east west orientaton. We use North south.
So west might as well pont in the direction of china )broadly speaking.
Here east is taken as pointing north.
So west points to Africa broadly speaking again, instead of interpreting it as north then, as mayor direction, was their east. So the other way around.

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#1440 Feb 15, 2013
2 would be 4.
Officially page 6 bu.da.uk.ki would be corner stone.
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darn the thing on the blink again.

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#1441 Feb 15, 2013
The gist by the way, seems to be that Tukris can be read as Tigris, though that is not the old name the Hatusili for instance used for the Tigris.
So it could indeed be alluding to a tribe of that name residing in that area.
page 7
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We find Egyptian themes as wel as eastern themes alluded to in the hebrew bible.
Which is attestation to the two occupations on the Knan land. And the intermix of people long before any exiles.

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#1442 Feb 15, 2013
page 9 is where it gets interesting.
Where we find the form puramshe as meaning or denoting slave.
So nothing need have happened in the time of Ramses or later Piramesse under priestly usurpation,given people traveled where ever food and water was found and colonies established till people would return, but could be ancient history retold in a Babylonian fashion.
Given the description of the Judean and Israeli landscape in 7th to 4th century BC geography and political reality.

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awur(ni)heaven and ni-gi which is found in other PNs, cf. Richter, ibid.
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The meaning of the second element, according to Richter, is probably a cultic object, the first element remains
unknown, cf. Richter, ibid.
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The element ku- is unidentifiable, while -li can be understood as elli, a form of the Hurrian word ela sister.
Cf. Richter, ibid.
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The word ending (a=)e can be Hurrian. As for w/puri there are several possibilities according to the
Hurrian lexicon. One of these is wuri view. The form and structure of the name looks very much like the word
purame slavery or purme servant, Richter, op. cit. p. 308.
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A frequently attested name consisting of the verbal base a/-to hear and the word adal,strong,
powerful, giving the powerful (one) heard. However, Richter has translated it mistakenly as the brother
heard, cf. ibid.
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Zadok,Elamite Onomastics, p. 230, nr. 89. This is reminiscent of his namesake ulibar of Duddul, also
from the Ur III period, cf. Goetze, A.,ulibar of Duddul, JNES 12 (1953), p. 114 ff. Goetze listed other
occurrences of this name in the Messenger texts from Laga, cf. op. cit., p. 116-117.
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Zadok,Elamite , p. 230, nr. 109. He says the name is linguistically Hurrian but resembles the Elamite
name im-e-il-a.

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