Who really were the ancient Israelite...

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#366 Sep 23, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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I thought we were all descendants from monkeys?
maybe you are i am not i am a descendant of prophet Adam PHB

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#367 Sep 23, 2012
hmm:
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Moral Education
Racism
There is plenty of racism in both camps. We have all heard the statement that Black people are closer to the apes than are White people.
However, we have all also heard the statement that Black people are descended from Cain. That used to be part of the Mormon doctrine until it became politically incorrect. Now they sweep it under the rug.
In Chicago, there is a Black racist cult called the Black Hebrews. They believe that White people are descended from Eve and the serpent.
Elijah Muhammed, founder of the Black Muslims, preached that the White people were created by a mad scientist on an island off the coast of Africa. This mad scientist was intent on persecuting the Black people, who were God's chosen people.
Relativism
Secularism
I don't think anyone would contest this one.
Sex Education
Socialism
See Communism.
Suicide
People didn't commit suicide before Evolution was first proposed? The Bible gives six accounts of suicide (1 Samuel 31:2-5; Matthew 27:3-5; Judges 9:50-54; Judges 16:23-31; 2 Samuel 17:23; 1 Kings 16:15-20).
Terrorism
Terrorists are Evolutionists?
Obviously the picture of the evil tree was drawn before Nine-Eleven!
Here is an excerpt from Chapter 7 of the Koran:
19 And said, "O Adam! You and your wife dwell in Paradise - therefore eat from it from wherever you wish, and do not approach this tree for you will become of those who transgress."
20 Then Satan created apprehensions in their hearts in order to disclose to them matters of their shame which were hidden from them, and said, "Your Lord has forbidden you from this tree, for you may become angels or immortals."
21 And he swore to them, "Indeed I am a well-wisher for both of you."
22 So he brought them down with deception; and when they tasted from that tree, their shame became manifest to them and they began attaching the leaves of Paradise on themselves; and their Lord said to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree, and tell you that Satan is an open enemy to you?"
23 They both submitted, "Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves; so if You do not forgive us and have mercy on us, then surely, we are of the losers."
24 He said, "Go down, one of you is a foe unto the other; and for a fixed time you shall stay on earth and feed in it."
25 He said, "You shall live there and there shall you die, and from there only you will be raised."
As you can see, I had to leave some of these items blank.
If you can comment on some of the items which I left blank, I will be interested.
Also, if you can comment on some of the items which I commented on, I will be interested.
As an addition to my last post, Mormons were not the only ones who felt that blacks could 'become white' through the teachings and adherence to same of their particular form of Christianity.

Mormons were not the only ones to think this way, either:

....:During the early 20th Century Jehovah’s Witnesses saw black people as inferior. Black people it was believed had the curse of Ham in their hearts and were fit to be servants. Black people could get spiritual benefits by staying meek and accepting their inferior status. Black people were not encouraged to feel good about being black, rather they should hope to become white. As a special blessing black Jehovah’s Witnesses might become white through God’s intervention. Black people were uneducated and therefore would not benefit from the tracts and reading material supplied to white congregations.
Prejudice is much less evident in the 21st century, though few black people have reached the highest administrative levels of the church.

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php ...

There are writings on this subject from early Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses that will curl your toenails .

And say what they like, many fundamentalist Christians still feel just about the same way in this day and age.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#368 Sep 23, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Moral Education
Racism
There is plenty of racism in both camps. We have all heard the statement that Black people are closer to the apes than are White people.
However, we have all also heard the statement that Black people are descended from Cain. That used to be part of the Mormon doctrine until it became politically incorrect. Now they sweep it under the rug.
In Chicago, there is a Black racist cult called the Black Hebrews. They believe that White people are descended from Eve and the serpent.
Elijah Muhammed, founder of the Black Muslims, preached that the White people were created by a mad scientist on an island off the coast of Africa. This mad scientist was intent on persecuting the Black people, who were God's chosen people.
Relativism
Secularism
I don't think anyone would contest this one.
Sex Education
Socialism
See Communism.
Suicide
People didn't commit suicide before Evolution was first proposed? The Bible gives six accounts of suicide (1 Samuel 31:2-5; Matthew 27:3-5; Judges 9:50-54; Judges 16:23-31; 2 Samuel 17:23; 1 Kings 16:15-20).
Terrorism
Terrorists are Evolutionists?
Obviously the picture of the evil tree was drawn before Nine-Eleven!
Here is an excerpt from Chapter 7 of the Koran:
19 And said, "O Adam! You and your wife dwell in Paradise - therefore eat from it from wherever you wish, and do not approach this tree for you will become of those who transgress."
20 Then Satan created apprehensions in their hearts in order to disclose to them matters of their shame which were hidden from them, and said, "Your Lord has forbidden you from this tree, for you may become angels or immortals."
21 And he swore to them, "Indeed I am a well-wisher for both of you."
22 So he brought them down with deception; and when they tasted from that tree, their shame became manifest to them and they began attaching the leaves of Paradise on themselves; and their Lord said to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree, and tell you that Satan is an open enemy to you?"
23 They both submitted, "Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves; so if You do not forgive us and have mercy on us, then surely, we are of the losers."
24 He said, "Go down, one of you is a foe unto the other; and for a fixed time you shall stay on earth and feed in it."
25 He said, "You shall live there and there shall you die, and from there only you will be raised."
As you can see, I had to leave some of these items blank.
If you can comment on some of the items which I left blank, I will be interested.
Also, if you can comment on some of the items which I commented on, I will be interested.
As an addition to my last post, Mormons were not the only ones who felt that blacks could 'become white' through the teachings and adherence to same of their particular form of Christianity.

Mormons were not the only ones to think this way, either:

During the early 20th Century Jehovah’s Witnesses saw black people as inferior. Black people it was believed had the curse of Ham in their hearts and were fit to be servants. Black people could get spiritual benefits by staying meek and accepting their inferior status. Black people were not encouraged to feel good about being black, rather they should hope to become white. As a special blessing black Jehovah’s Witnesses might become white through God’s intervention. Black people were uneducated and therefore would not benefit from the tracts and reading material supplied to white congregations.
Prejudice is much less evident in the 21st century, though few black people have reached the highest administrative levels of the church.

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php ...

There are writings on this subject from early Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses that will curl your toenails .

And say what they like, many fundamentalist Christians still feel just about the same way in this day and age.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#369 Sep 23, 2012
I'll never get used to the slowness of this forum
Eric

Lisle, IL

#370 Sep 23, 2012
husayn wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you are i am not i am a descendant of prophet Adam PHB
What did Adam prophesize?
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#371 Sep 23, 2012
husayn wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you are i am not i am a descendant of prophet Adam PHB
not off the hook yet.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#372 Sep 23, 2012
quote chaper 7
and their Lord said to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree, and tell you that Satan is an open enemy to you?"

end quote

Well no, on the second part, but who is going to call allah presumptious, or a bit demented or at least of selective memory, rationaizing after the fact, unless the quraan forgot as in omitted some of the narrative.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#373 Sep 23, 2012
shaytan -evil gossiping
nashustan-healing serpent/mainly snake.
Someone confused the two.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#374 Sep 23, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
water_nymph wrote:
"Are you aware that the early Mormons thought that any child they adopted (translated: stole) from Native Americans would become white when they went through the rituals of the church and accepted the Mormon belief? Then suddenly, it was never mentioned again."
The original version of The Book of Mormon promised that when Native Americans embraced Mormonism, God would turn their skins "white and delightsome."
According to the Mormons, God lives on another planet named Kolob, with thousands of wives. All the other inhabitants of the planet are his progeny. We are reincarnations of those inhabitants. We chose to come here. We made this choice because we realized that it would be in the interests of our spiritual development to live in a place where we cannot see God. Therefore, we have to accept the existence of God on faith.
God places us according to our behavior on Kolob. The most privileged are placed in Mormon families. The next best are born White.
After Cain killed Abel, God punished Cain by turning his skin black. All of the black people are descended from Cain. Ham went on the Ark with his wife, who was descended from Cain. Her name was Egyptus, and the nation of Egypt is named after her.
Until 1978, black members of the church were forbidden to serve as priests. A Federal court ordered the church to grant priesthood to blacks or lose their tax-exempt status. The church chose the former alternative, so everything I just told you has been swept under the rug.
Brigham Young, the second leader of the church, prophesied that if the church ever granted priesthood to blacks, God would rain fire down on the church. That prophesy has been swept under the rug too.
The mormon position: " After Cain killed Abel, God punished Cain by turning his skin black. All of the black people are descended from Cain. Ham went on the Ark with his wife, who was descended from Cain. Her name was Egyptus, and the nation of Egypt is named after her."

----coptics avant la lettre.
under the eagean=egypt ai eaguptos
Witttness

Nashville, TN

#375 Oct 9, 2012
You my friend, are isolated and ignorant (look up the definition before you get offended). White people do not rule the world. Our president is a black man. Go conspiracy theory all ya want that he is a puppet, I may agree. However, the fact remains, the world is NOT in any way ruled by whites. Now, there are undeniably systems set up to marginalize and oppress minorities, but whites are not by any means, the only skin color within this beast. To be fair, I can probably pinpoint the origins of your statement in that "your" world is ruled by whites, due to the fact you allow and want such, being as you are most likely white. But on the other hand you could quite possibly be black, in which the reasoning behind such thought is perhaps you have in fact been a victim of this corrupted system of oppressive marginalization that wouldn't dare blame itself. So it sets us against one another, with rhetoric that leads us to believe or even act out crimes against one another. Truth of it all is, they will give people any reason to hate, because that sadly, is all some need. The longer blacks believe the hype that all whites are against them and whites allow their ego to believe the hype that white is right, the longer this separation of unity will go on.
Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places"
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#376 Oct 11, 2012
Witttness wrote:
You my friend, are isolated and ignorant (look up the definition before you get offended). White people do not rule the world. Our president is a black man. Go conspiracy theory all ya want that he is a puppet, I may agree. However, the fact remains, the world is NOT in any way ruled by whites. Now, there are undeniably systems set up to marginalize and oppress minorities, but whites are not by any means, the only skin color within this beast. To be fair, I can probably pinpoint the origins of your statement in that "your" world is ruled by whites, due to the fact you allow and want such, being as you are most likely white. But on the other hand you could quite possibly be black, in which the reasoning behind such thought is perhaps you have in fact been a victim of this corrupted system of oppressive marginalization that wouldn't dare blame itself. So it sets us against one another, with rhetoric that leads us to believe or even act out crimes against one another. Truth of it all is, they will give people any reason to hate, because that sadly, is all some need. The longer blacks believe the hype that all whites are against them and whites allow their ego to believe the hype that white is right, the longer this separation of unity will go on.
Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places"
What Kingdom are we in?

Babylonian

Meds-Persia

Greek

Rome

The Red Nations(Europeans) are in control of the earth until the retrun of Messiah Yahusha.(LK.21:24)

Job 9:24
The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#377 Oct 11, 2012
In your case, fanstasy kingdom.
gay lonely

Compton, CA

#378 Oct 15, 2012
The brown people were the Israelites. The blacks were Egyptians. There is no report of white people in Israel. In the Bible says, that Canaanites were the black people who resided in Israel. But, God commanded the Israelites, the brown people not to mingle with black people because they will teach them to worship false gods and make them pagans and lead them astray from God. God promised them to make them peculiar people if they listen to God's commandments then God promised to Israel, the Brown people, be protected by God by the harrassment of the Egyptians and the stocks of the Egyptians.
gay lonely

Compton, CA

#379 Oct 15, 2012
Jesus Christ was brown color skin. That's all. He was not black. Jesus Christ was a man of brown color skin, black hair and brown eyes and handsome and tall and with refined features and admirable personage but has no beauty. Jesus Christ was not Jewish. He was not black. He was brown like Arabic type. That's all.
Frijoles

United States

#380 Oct 15, 2012
gay lonely wrote:
Jesus Christ was not Jewish.
What was he then, Hindu?
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#381 Nov 1, 2012
African4 wrote:
The Bible is all about the Israelites and specifically abut ONE Israelitic family, who's genealogy is given by the Bible.
The Bible tells us that Adam was created 7,000 years ago. Adam's name in Hewbrew means to be ruddy. To be able to blush red. Here see for yourself what the name Adam means in Hebrew.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/l...
It is undeniable.
We know that Noah is a direct descendent of Adam. Esau Noah's son is described as red. David is described as Ruddy and fair.
The Israelites were white. Here are s couple of examples taken from King James's bible 1953.
Job 16:16
my face is reddened because of weeping,
and on my eyelids there is a deep darkness,
(Only white people's faces can blush, go red)
Lamentations 4:7
Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
Ezra9:6
And said, O my God, I am ashamed and blush to lift up my face to thee, my God: for our iniquities are increased over our head, and our trespass is grown up unto the heavens.
(Only whites can blush so that you can actually see it)
Isaiah29:22
Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale.
(Wax pale is white, Abraham was white)
1Sam16:12
And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he
(Ruddy means a healthy reddish colour. Only whites can have a reddish glow, think cheeks)
1Sam17:42
And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.
(David had a ruddy, fair complexion. That is describing a white boy.)
Psalms 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
Song of Solomon5:10
My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Job 16:16
my face is reddened because of weeping,
and on my eyelids there is a deep darkness

Job 16:16
My face is#2560 troubled because of weeping and my eyelids is the #6757 shade of death.

(# Hebrew strong's)

Not white...
Shut_the_F_up

Houston, TX

#382 Dec 3, 2012
M_Scott wrote:
Have any of you noticed when a black person has a child with a white person....... every time the baby is lots more dark than white. This is true even with dark eyes or dark hair, the dark wins out. So evolution tells us that the white race will eventually be gone if we keep mixing.
Can you name one country that is a success when ruled by blacks? Blacks never has a country that has freedom & rights. The Jews in Isreal are the only one that has freedom so i am assuming they are white. Seinfelt sure looks white to me. Eagerly awaiting that answer.
Black ruled Africa just fine before the white man saw how rich it was and wanted to take it.[Enter: Aids and pestilence and poverty]
Shut_the_F_up

Houston, TX

#383 Dec 3, 2012
gay lonely wrote:
Jesus Christ was brown color skin. That's all. He was not black. Jesus Christ was a man of brown color skin, black hair and brown eyes and handsome and tall and with refined features and admirable personage but has no beauty. Jesus Christ was not Jewish. He was not black. He was brown like Arabic type. That's all.
if Jesus was not black, how could he be hid amongst the Egyptians when they were killing children 2 and under trying to kill him? Light or white people can not hide amongst dark people.

Moses was an Israelite or Hebrew, right? How could he have been passed off as the grandson of Pharaoh and raised in his house 40 years if he was not black. By your admission the Egyptians were black people.
african

Cape Town, South Africa

#384 Dec 6, 2012
Shut_the_F_up wrote:
<quoted text>
if Jesus was not black, how could he be hid amongst the Egyptians when they were killing children 2 and under trying to kill him? Light or white people can not hide amongst dark people.
Moses was an Israelite or Hebrew, right? How could he have been passed off as the grandson of Pharaoh and raised in his house 40 years if he was not black. By your admission the Egyptians were black people.
Its seems the Black Hebrew Israelites have hi-jacked this site. Its no use ever talking to them. Theyre right and everyone else is wrong.....
keist

Norway

#385 Dec 6, 2012
the isrealites were white wrote:
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whites have been in africa for thousands of years, egypt and north africa and south africa WERE white. the blacks were a minority.The whites slowly turned darker skinned after constant conquest by whites and whites breeding with the black of west africa. the middle east was original blonde hair white people.
you need to stop spreading you black hate speeches around the internet. no one will EVER believe you anyway expect other non whites. blacks had there history erased and are now on the way to eradication. it is God's will. whites have and will always rule this earth.
hahahahaha, didn't surprise me that you're from Tennesse LOL! stupid.. "Ethiopia - the origin of mankind"

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