Girl refuses blood transfusion

Girl refuses blood transfusion

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Claude Kenneson

Monticello, FL

#1 Jul 21, 2006
In Manitoba, Canada a 15 year old girl, has refused a blood transfusion, but the court has said she must receive it if needed. Her lawyers have filed an appeal saying age should be no factor in one's decision to refuse. See "Manitoba Jehovah's Witness family fighting blood transfusion order" at

http://www.cjob.com/news/index.aspx...
Red

United States

#2 Jul 21, 2006
Claude Kenneson wrote:
In Manitoba, Canada a 15 year old girl, has refused a blood transfusion, but the court has said she must receive it if needed. Her lawyers have filed an appeal saying age should be no factor in one's decision to refuse. See "Manitoba Jehovah's Witness family fighting blood transfusion order" at
http://www.cjob.com/news/index.aspx...
She and her parents are well within their rights to refuse blood transfusions. I know the court is not made up of Doctors but with the advancement of medicine there is very seldom if any good reason to have a blood transfusion, you just need a Doctor who knows what he's doing, and I do believe the parents will find a suitable Doctor.
Steve Lowry

Marietta, GA

#3 Jul 21, 2006
Red wrote:
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She and her parents are well within their rights to refuse blood transfusions. I know the court is not made up of Doctors but with the advancement of medicine there is very seldom if any good reason to have a blood transfusion, you just need a Doctor who knows what he's doing, and I do believe the parents will find a suitable Doctor.
I guess if she dies you'd be wrong, eh? This is why we The Child Protection Service and the court system to protect the righst of children from fanatical wacko parents.
Claude Kenneson

Monticello, FL

#5 Jul 22, 2006
In a similar vein, in the U.S., a 16 year old boy (although not likely religion based) has refused treatment ordered by his doctors, in favor of an alternative one consisting of a sugar free, organic diet and herbal supplements supervised by a Mexican clinic. No matter. "Judge orders teen to cancer treatment."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060721/ap_on_re_...
Red

United States

#6 Jul 22, 2006
so now the governments and their agencies are going to inflict their beliefs on me and my family? I do not think so. Force your treatments on me and mine and you'll find my bank account getting larger every time you do.
Steve Lowry

Marietta, GA

#7 Jul 23, 2006
Red wrote:
so now the governments and their agencies are going to inflict their beliefs on me and my family? I do not think so. Force your treatments on me and mine and you'll find my bank account getting larger every time you do.
No, the Government and it's agencies are going to protect the rights of your children by not allowing you to inflict your beliefs on them, killing them in the process. You can refuse blood and die (as dumb as that is), if that’s your choice as you are an adult. But children aren't yet adults and need to be protected from foolishly misled parents who would allow them to die, as needlessly as they would choose to.

I wouldn't be planning on any great financial windfalls won from lawsuits you may pursue against the folks who would try and save the lives of your children (i.e., Child Protection Agency). Most people don't share your nonsensical religious hysteria about blood transfusions, and see CPS as a hero saving the life of a child.
Awake

UK

#8 Jul 23, 2006
Red,
The Watchtower already forces it beliefs on witnesses.That is why they are being sued by so many.

When i was a witness,many years ago the issue was plain,no blood,full stop.

Now your leaders have decided that you can have practially all the components of blood,seperatly,but not together. So in effect Jws do take blood transfusions,and do draw upon the Blood banks reserves.

I pity the poor witness who are faced with a choice and dont even know which blood componenants are now allowed by the Watchtower.Imagine letting your loved one die and then being told that the blood faction they refused is one that is now allowed by the Watchtower.

Having said this,the Bible nowhere forbids blood transfusion.
Frankie

Austin, TX

#9 Jul 23, 2006
Get the facts on these so called "life saving" blood transfusuions. Many doctors today don't support it just like Jehovah has warned us to stay away. Here is the link.

http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news...

Thanks
Danny Haszard

Waynesboro, VA

#10 Jul 23, 2006
Frankie wrote:
Get the facts on these so called "life saving" blood transfusuions.
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Circular reasoning

That's just the point the Watchtower is deadly two faced if blood is so "sacred" and 'dangerous' why does the Watchtower allow so many of the components (parts) to be taken?

UPDATE:The absurdity of the Watchtower rulings now allow any of the COMPONENTS of blood to be transfused, but not whole blood, and yet people are dying and lives and families are being ruined over a few old men in Brooklyn New York USA who are always changing their minds on this matter.
Steve Lowry

Marietta, GA

#11 Jul 23, 2006
Frankie wrote:
Get the facts on these so called "life saving" blood transfusuions. Many doctors today don't support it just like Jehovah has warned us to stay away. Here is the link.
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news...
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Here's a scientific fact Frankie. Nothing moves precious life sustaining oxygen through the body like blood. Nothing. One day maybe, but not today. If your life is in the balance and you refuse blood though warned to recieve it, you may quite possibly die. Think I'm imagining this? Many Jw's die every year and thier children sadly, because they refuse blood. Jehovah never told you to refuse blood. The Watchtower Society has told you to refuse blood. I'm guessing you serve the Watchtower Society. That's too bad, cuz God dosen't want you discarding your life for the Wahctower S.
Awake

UK

#12 Jul 23, 2006
Frankie wrote:
Get the facts on these so called "life saving" blood transfusuions. Many doctors today don't support it just like Jehovah has warned us to stay away. Here is the link.
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news...
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Frankie,as Danny Hazard said,how come jws are allowed to be trasfused with practially all the factions of blood,but not whole blood.
Does this policy not cause you concern?
Borgfree

Rancho Cordova, CA

#13 Jul 23, 2006
JWs,

You must use your own minds. The watchtower has taught you many things which are strange teachings by Christian standards, but, the blood transfusion teaching will take your life or the life of your loved one needlessly.

Think, the God who created you and considers your life so precious that He gave His own Son to pay for your sins, by WATCHTOWER teaching considers your blood, the fluid He created to keep you alive, more precious than you, you who Jesus died for. Did Jesus die for your blood? No, he died for you.

Again, which is most precious to Jehovah, the fluid that keeps you alive? or, your life itself?
Red

United States

#14 Jul 23, 2006
my life is to be used the wat the Bible says, to acquire the accurate knowledge of Jehovah. In searching for what Jehovah wants of me I find that not only does he want me to keep his laws but also his principles. Blood is to be kept sacred. I will have no blood products, part or whole, even if the Governing Body says it is alright. The Bible does not change and neither will my mind.
Awake

UK

#15 Jul 23, 2006
Red,
blood was to poured on the ground in respect for the life taken.No life is taken when you accept a blood transfusion.

So in your opinion are the governing body now apostate in that they have broken Gods laws?
Claude Kenneson

Monticello, FL

#16 Jul 23, 2006
Transfusions did not exist at the time the Bible was written. It could not have been condemning a medical practice unknown to the writers. The Old Testament and the Book of Acts were talking about something totally different.
Awake

UK

#17 Jul 23, 2006
Claude,
the problem is that witnesses believe that the watchtower speaks for God.
The watchtower now allow blood factions to be transfused,so witnesses now accept these. If the watchtower allows whole blood to be transfused the witnesses will go along with that as well.

It has happened before with Vaccinations and Transplants.
Steve Lowry

Marietta, GA

#18 Jul 23, 2006
Red wrote:
my life is to be used the wat the Bible says, to acquire the accurate knowledge of Jehovah. In searching for what Jehovah wants of me I find that not only does he want me to keep his laws but also his principles. Blood is to be kept sacred. I will have no blood products, part or whole, even if the Governing Body says it is alright. The Bible does not change and neither will my mind.
Yet, you believe just as the Watchtower has instructed you to believe. You actually think that you have come up with this “principle” all on you own (refusing a blood transfusion)? I'm reminded here of my JW mother, who when answering the questions out of the Watchtower magazine during the Sunday morning meetings, would have this proud look on her face as is she and she alone knew the answer to the question and as if she had discovered the answer separate from the magazine she was holding in her hands, when in reality it was scripted for her to parrot back her answers. Oh , I’m sure you discovered Jehovah’s “will” about blood transfusions without the aid of the Watchtower Society. Right.

What you’ll do in the future irrespective of the Watchtower Society’s evolution concerning blood transfusions, remains to be seen.
Red

United States

#19 Jul 23, 2006
will some one please tell me in what publication it says that it is right to take transfusions. With all the medical advancements that there are there is no reason for most people to even think of a transfusion.
Borgfree

Rancho Cordova, CA

#20 Jul 23, 2006
Red,

I do not think anyone wants a blood transfusion. After finding out that we have been deceived by the WT on so many things many of us have thought it necessary to question everything we were taught by the WT, including blood transfusions. There is much evidence that the whole blood transfusion fiasco from the WT is phony.

I do not know off hand where to find the information you asked about but I think you can find all of the info. here.

http://www.ajwrb.org/

BTW, remember these are still your brothers in good standing.
Awake

UK

#21 Jul 24, 2006
Red,these medical advantages may be fine for you living in the USA.
What about the vast majority of people worldwide who dont have the options you have?.
In many cases it a case of a blood transfusion or nothing.Your brothers in other parts of the world dont have your medical facilities.

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