The FDS must have appeared after Chri...

The FDS must have appeared after Christ’s presence began in 1914....

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UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#1 Nov 10, 2012
Yep, says so right here on the Watchtower Publishing Company's website:

http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/a...

Next, a symposium of six talks by members of the Governing Body—Brothers Jackson, Lösch, Pierce, Herd, Lett, and Splane—analyzed and discussed the meaning of Jesus’ words recorded at Matthew 24:45-47. Jesus stated:

“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.”

The symposium answered the following questions:

When Did Jesus Appoint “the Faithful and Discreet Slave” Over His Domestics?
Consider the context of Jesus’ words in Matthew chapter 24. All the verses listed here were to be fulfilled during Christ’s presence,“the conclusion of the system of things.”—Verse 3.

“The tribulation of those days.”—Verse 29.
“This generation.”—Verse 34.
“That day and hour.”—Verse 36.
The “day your Lord is coming.”—Verse 42.
“At an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.”—Verse 44.

Logically, then,“the faithful and discreet slave” must have appeared after Christ’s presence began in 1914.

JEHOVAH's WITNESSES, THAT MEANS THAT THE 1st CENTURY CHRISTIAN APOSTLES IN JERUSALLEM WERE NOT THE FDS.

NO FDS MEANS NO GOVERNING BODY COMPOSED OF THE FDS IN THE 1st CENTURY!!!!

YOU JW's HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED.

CHECK IT OUT AND READ IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES:

http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/a...

"Moreover, Jesus indicated that this “slave” would appear during a time when a legitimate question would be:“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” Jesus’ apostles had miraculous gifts of holy spirit, so there was scant reason to raise that question in the first century C.E.(1 Corinthians 14:12, 24, 25) Although they were anointed by holy spirit, the apostles and other first-century Christians were not “the faithful and discreet slave” prophesied by Jesus."
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#2 Nov 10, 2012
WAIT, THERE's MORE...

“Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”
Jesus was referring, not to an individual, but to a composite “slave”—a group working together as one body. Jesus said that the slave (1) is appointed to a supervisory role “over [the master’s] domestics” and (2) gives the domestics spiritual “food at the proper time.”

From 1919 on, there has always been a small group of anointed Christians at the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They have supervised our worldwide preaching work and have been directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. In recent years, that group has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The evidence points to the following conclusion:“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.”

THE GB IS THE FDS!!!!

JW's, that is too cool.

THAT MEANS YOU WERE TEACHING & PREACHING A DOA DOCTRINE FOR THE PAST 98 YEARS.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3 Nov 10, 2012
Whoa!!!
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#4 Nov 10, 2012
THERE IS MORE:

http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/a...

Who Are the “Domestics”?
Jesus said that “his domestics” would receive “food at the proper time.” All genuine followers of Jesus are fed by “the faithful and discreet slave.” Therefore, all of Christ’s disciples—both individual anointed Christians and members of the “other sheep”—are “his domestics.”—John 10:16.

After the speaker explained this aspect of Jesus’ prophecy, the audience erupted in sustained applause. Several in attendance later expressed their profound gratitude that Jesus considers them among “his domestics.”
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#5 Nov 10, 2012
AND MORE:

http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/a...

When Does Jesus Appoint the Slave “Over All His Belongings”?
Jesus said that the “master on arriving”(literally,“having come”) will appoint the slave “over all his belongings.” When does the Master, Jesus, arrive?

The expression translated “on arriving” is a form of the Greek word er′kho·mai. Verses 42 and 44 of chapter 24 translate a form of er′kho·mai as “coming.” In those verses, Jesus is referring to his coming as Judge during the great tribulation.—Matthew 24:30; 25:31, 32.

Jesus’ appointment of the “slave” over his “belongings,” then, must also be a future event. He will make that appointment during the great tribulation.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#6 Nov 10, 2012
AND MORE...

What Are Jesus’“Belongings”?
Jesus said:“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.”(Matthew 28:18) Jesus’“belongings” thus include more than just his earthly interests. They include the Messianic Kingdom.—Philippians 2:9-11.

Consequently, Jesus will reward “the faithful and discreet slave” by resurrecting the individual members of that group to heavenly life and by giving them royal authority over all Christ’s belongings in heaven and on earth. This is the same reward promised to all faithful anointed Christians.—Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 20:6.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#7 Nov 10, 2012
THE LIGHT GETS BRIGHTER ;)

After such an upbuilding and historic program, those in attendance heartily joined in singing “The Light Gets Brighter”(Song No. 116) from Sing to Jehovah. Its lyrics include these appropriate words:

“Our Lord has appointed a trustworthy slave,

Through whom He gives food in due season.

The light of the truth has grown brighter with time,

Appealing to heart and to reason.”

~~~~~~~~~~

APPEALING TO.... REASON???????

GET REAL.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#8 Nov 10, 2012
Hey JW PR reps, how does it feel to know that you have been preaching a false doctrine about the FDS?

And you wonder why nonJW's say you are being deceived by the Governing Body.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#9 Nov 10, 2012
According to the information dispensed by the Governing Body at the 2012 Annual Meeting JW's were lied to by the Watchtower Publishing Company in 2006:

May 1, 2006 Watchtower
Page 25
Paragraph 15
Shepherds such as the apostles Peter, John, and Paul were all members of the group Jesus described as “the faithful and discreet slave.” This slave class is composed of Jesus’ spirit-anointed brothers on earth, whose hope is to rule with Christ in heaven.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#10 Nov 10, 2012
Although they were anointed by holy spirit, the apostles and other first-century Christians were not “the faithful and discreet slave” prophesied by Jesus."

According to the information dispensed by the Governing Body at the 2012 Annual Meeting JW's were lied to by the Watchtower Publishing Company in 2006:

May 1, 2006 Watchtower
Page 25
Paragraph 15
Shepherds such as the apostles Peter, John, and Paul were all members of the group Jesus described as “the faithful and discreet slave.” This slave class is composed of Jesus’ spirit-anointed brothers on earth, whose hope is to rule with Christ in heaven.

INSANITY
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#11 Nov 10, 2012
Where have Aneirin/Gareth, thirdwitness, man711, abrother, Duh-boy, eagle eye and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses run off to?

Oh wait, it is Saturday.

They must be out in Field Service telling householders that the apostles Peter, John, and Paul were all members of the group Jesus described as “the faithful and discreet slave.”
Jace

Elkton, VA

#12 Nov 10, 2012
UNchained wrote:
WAIT, THERE's MORE...
“Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”
Jesus was referring, not to an individual, but to a composite “slave”—a group working together as one body. Jesus said that the slave (1) is appointed to a supervisory role “over [the master’s] domestics” and (2) gives the domestics spiritual “food at the proper time.”
From 1919 on, there has always been a small group of anointed Christians at the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They have supervised our worldwide preaching work and have been directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. In recent years, that group has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The evidence points to the following conclusion:“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.”
THE GB IS THE FDS!!!!
JW's, that is too cool.
THAT MEANS YOU WERE TEACHING & PREACHING A DOA DOCTRINE FOR THE PAST 98 YEARS.
Yes DOA
Now ask yourself this question

Since god is spirit directing the FDs. Why would he dirct them to teach a dogma bout who he was using for 90 years

Lol
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#13 Nov 10, 2012
Jace wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes DOA
Now ask yourself this question
Since god is spirit directing the FDs. Why would he dirct them to teach a dogma bout who he was using for 90 years
Lol
Maybe the 'anointed remnant' didn't get the email/memo from God 90 years ago that said the Governing Body is the FDS.

* The term Governing Body was not applied to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society until the July 15, 1943 Watchtower described it as a "legal governing body" on page 216.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#14 Nov 10, 2012
Saturday morning Field Service was over and done with hours ago.

So, where have Aneirin/Gareth, thirdwitness, man711, abrother, Duh-boy, eagle eye and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses run off to?

However, I suspect that it won't be long before the little pharisee from down under will show up on this thread and condemn those who have posted about the newest insanity from the Watchtower Publishing Company.
Jace

Stanley, VA

#15 Nov 10, 2012
UNchained wrote:
Saturday morning Field Service was over and done with hours ago.
So, where have Aneirin/Gareth, thirdwitness, man711, abrother, Duh-boy, eagle eye and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses run off to?
.
See you ain't right

Since: Jun 11

Kardinya, Australia

#16 Nov 10, 2012
The 2013 Annual report was titled "Food at the proper time" Unfortunately there was no indication in the report which explained why the new meaning of the FDS was being provided at the proper time. This annual meeting was 128th one held by the WTBTS, you would think that after 128 years they would already know everything that needed to be known about the parable.

The report includes
"After the speaker explained this aspect of Jesus’ prophecy, the audience erupted in sustained applause. Several in attendance later expressed their profound gratitude that Jesus considers them among “his domestics.”

In the splended presentation provided via video David Splane joyfully explained after his announcement that the GC were now domestics
"We love this teaching. We love this idea. Because it really, truelly does dignify the members of the Great Crowd."

Now really and truelly it doesn't get much better than that.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#17 Nov 11, 2012
Blue Danube wrote:
The 2013 Annual report was titled "Food at the proper time" Unfortunately there was no indication in the report which explained why the new meaning of the FDS was being provided at the proper time. This annual meeting was 128th one held by the WTBTS, you would think that after 128 years they would already know everything that needed to be known about the parable.
The report includes
"After the speaker explained this aspect of Jesus’ prophecy, the audience erupted in sustained applause. Several in attendance later expressed their profound gratitude that Jesus considers them among “his domestics.”
In the splended presentation provided via video David Splane joyfully explained after his announcement that the GC were now domestics
"We love this teaching. We love this idea. Because it really, truelly does dignify the members of the Great Crowd."
Now really and truelly it doesn't get much better than that.
Stop it!

You ain't right.

Great post!!!

Still no sign of Aneirin/Gareth and the rest of the online Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#18 Nov 13, 2012
Blue Danube wrote:
We love this idea.
Yes man made ideas
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#19 Nov 13, 2012
Where have Aneirin/Gareth, thirdwitness, man711, abrother, Duh-boy, eagle eye and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses run off to?
Truth of Christ

Mesquite, NV

#20 Nov 13, 2012
UNchained wrote:
Logically, then, &#147;the faithful and discreet slave&#148; must have appeared after Christ&#146;s presence began in 1914.
Since the JW organization leaders know they are lying about 1914 then everything they say that has to do with 1914 is automatically also a lie.

This 1914 nonsense is the backbone of evil that powers the wicked leaders of the JW organization.

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