Really sad

[dee lightful]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>I agree with much of what they teach except when it becomes mens ideas.

JW teachings are all men's ideas...duh !

[RedhorseWoman]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>Again, what don't you people understand are these things integreted into their worship? NO! Compare apples to apples is that understandable?

And you are stating that all of the things JWs consider to be "pagan" are things integrated into people's worship?

Really? How is a wedding toast being integrated into people's worship? How about a Christmas tree? Mother's Day? Thanksgiving?

Please, let us know how all of the "pagan" things forbidden for JWs are connected to worship, but "pagan" things that originated in human sacrifice (pinatas) and spiritism (wedding flowers, bridal veils, bridesmaids) are somehow intrinsically different?

[RedhorseWoman]

The Real Karen wrote:

<quoted text>
Please show me where I have attacked you? I have only called you who you are, TPMP.
What exactly am I TPMP? And this is exactly what you have said to me before.

He reads attacks on his person into the most innocuous of statements. He even twists general statements not directed at him personally as personal attacks.

He seems to think that his insults to others are perfectly okay, while also taking the bland comments of someone else as being an attack against him personally.

[man711]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

<quoted text>
He reads attacks on his person into the most innocuous of statements. He even twists general statements not directed at him personally as personal attacks.
He seems to think that his insults to others are perfectly okay, while also taking the bland comments of someone else as being an attack against him personally.

Your words are insulting, right? This person persisted in lyingly calling this Tnp person

[man711]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

<quoted text>
And you are stating that all of the things JWs consider to be "pagan" are things integrated into people's worship?
Really? How is a wedding toast being integrated into people's worship? How about a Christmas tree? Mother's Day? Thanksgiving?
Please, let us know how all of the "pagan" things forbidden for JWs are connected to worship, but "pagan" things that originated in human sacrifice (pinatas) and spiritism (wedding flowers, bridal veils, bridesmaids) are somehow intrinsically different?

Pagan religious traditions, celebration of Christmas, trinity false doctrine, belief in a hellfire. You understood fully what was being discussed.

[RedhorseWoman]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>Did you NOT understand I am not a JW?

Duck...looks...quacks...walks

[RedhorseWoman]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>Your words are insulting, right? This person persisted in lyingly calling this Tnp person

Case in point.

[man711]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

<quoted text>
Duck...looks...quacks...walks

Are you calling me a liar?

[RedhorseWoman]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>Pagan religious traditions, celebration of Christmas, trinity false doctrine, belief in a hellfire. You understood fully what was being discussed.

Celebration of Christmas is not necessarily part of a person's worship. The other things in your posts are doctrinal points and not "pagan" traditions.

Again, how is a wedding toast something that is integrated into people's worship? It is a pagan tradition that is disallowed for JWs. YOU stated that pagan traditions that the JWs disallow are because they are integrated into a person's worship.

You stated things incorrectly.

I asked you to show how all of the "pagan" traditions disallowed for JWs are somehow intrinsically different from pagan traditions based on worship of pagan gods, human sacrifice and spiritism that ARE allowed for JWs.

You skirted around the issue. Care to deal with it rather than throwing out your inane insults?

[man711]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

<quoted text>
Celebration of Christmas is not necessarily part of a person's worship. The other things in your posts are doctrinal points and not "pagan" traditions.
Again, how is a wedding toast something that is integrated into people's worship? It is a pagan tradition that is disallowed for JWs. YOU stated that pagan traditions that the JWs disallow are because they are integrated into a person's worship.
You stated things incorrectly.
I asked you to show how all of the "pagan" traditions disallowed for JWs are somehow intrinsically different from pagan traditions based on worship of pagan gods, human sacrifice and spiritism that ARE allowed for JWs.
You skirted around the issue. Care to deal with it rather than throwing out your inane insults?

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
You fit this!

[man711]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

<quoted text>
Celebration of Christmas is not necessarily part of a person's worship. The other things in your posts are doctrinal points and not "pagan" traditions.
Again, how is a wedding toast something that is integrated into people's worship? It is a pagan tradition that is disallowed for JWs. YOU stated that pagan traditions that the JWs disallow are because they are integrated into a person's worship.
You stated things incorrectly.
I asked you to show how all of the "pagan" traditions disallowed for JWs are somehow intrinsically different from pagan traditions based on worship of pagan gods, human sacrifice and spiritism that ARE allowed for JWs.
You skirted around the issue. Care to deal with it rather than throwing out your inane insults?

I don't answer specifics about JW's because I'm not one, ask one!

[RedhorseWoman]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>
I don't answer specifics about JW's because I'm not one, ask one!

LOL You make specific statements that you can't back up with facts, so you wimp out with your limp-wristed excuse of not being a JW?

ROFL

You made claims...why can't you back them up? It has nothing to do with being or not being a JW. You should be able to explain your claims, since you've been stating them and hurling insults at anyone who dares to disagree with you.

[Yeah-right]

RedhorseWoman wrote:

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LOL You make specific statements that you can't back up with facts, so you wimp out with your limp-wristed excuse of not being a JW?
ROFL
You made claims...why can't you back them up? It has nothing to do with being or not being a JW. You should be able to explain your claims, since you've been stating them and hurling insults at anyone who dares to disagree with you.

ROLMAO

Someone is definitely off their meds.....

[Yeah-right]

Aneirin wrote:

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Its not about what happens first. Its about where Jesus is. Where did Jesus say he is?
*** Matt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst of them."
Jesus says is is with those who gather in his name. So the ONLY way to go to Jesus is by going to those who gather in his name.
That would be Jehovah's Witnesses.

ROFLMAO

Who would've known that Jesus's name was really jehovah.

Only in JW bizzaro world is logic like this possible.

[much happier now]

man711 wrote:

It's really sad that people cannot give up their pagan inspired Christmas and are enslaved by traditions of men. God have mercy on them.

It's sad that Jehovah's Wittnesses are not allowed to enjoy the simple joys of Christmas, so miss out on family celebrations, decorating the house, putting up the tree, enjoying the twinkling lights, exchanging simple gifts and listening to Christmas carols, all because a group of sour old men in New York don't like it. God have mercy on them.

[Aneirin]

Yeah-right wrote:

<quoted text>
ROFLMAO
Who would've known that Jesus's name was really jehovah.
Only in JW bizzaro world is logic like this possible.

Jesus bore witness about his Father Jehovah God.

That makes Jesus the foremost among Jehovah's Witness.

Christ is our exemplar. Therefore to be a true disciple of Christ we must emulate him as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

All true Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses. They bear witness to Jehovah God just as Jesus Christ did.

[slave enslaver]

man711 wrote:

<quoted text>
No you are the one brasinwashed by men's traditions. I have learned the truth and the truth has set me free from slavery to men's traditions.

So you have learned the truth from man. the evil men who claim to be God's representative on earth. The truth from those same evil men who are the false prophets that Jesus warned us about. You are a truly misguided slave to man. there is time for you to leave the brainwashing cult and scam to which you belong. However I suspect you will protect the murderer's (misinterpreted blood policy) child abusers and devil worshippers as you are held in fear by their demonic literature, free masonary and subliminal imagery.

[hMMMMM]

Aneirin wrote:

<quoted text>
Jesus bore witness about his Father Jehovah God.
That makes Jesus the foremost among Jehovah's Witness.
Christ is our exemplar. Therefore to be a true disciple of Christ we must emulate him as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
All true Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses. They bear witness to Jehovah God just as Jesus Christ did.

Yet you post here all of the time stating that you are NOT and never have been a Jehovah's witness?
Why?
Maybe what you meant to say was all Jehovah'sWitnesses are true liars???
Jehovah's Witnesses are not even Christian, they follow some lunatics known as the governing demons NOT Jesus Christ.
They mock all Christians and Christianity, making up the word "Christendom" as some sort of derogatory swear word.

[Think about this]

Aneirin wrote:

<quoted text>
Jesus bore witness about his Father Jehovah God.
That makes Jesus the foremost among Jehovah's Witness.
Christ is our exemplar. Therefore to be a true disciple of Christ we must emulate him as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
All true Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses. They bear witness to Jehovah God just as Jesus Christ did.

Every true Christian would agree that we should follow the commands of God. In Mk 9:7, God the Father commands us to listen to Jesus. Do you follow this command and listen to Jesus? After all, Jesus died for your personal sins (1Jn 2:2, 1Pet 2:24). Jesus tells us to go directly to him (Mt 11:28-30), and the Father commanded us to listen to Jesus. Why? Because JESUS gives us everlasting life (Jn 10:28), and so that JESUS will enter our house and be with us and give us the right to sit on his throne (Rev 3:20- 21). Do you pray to Jesus as Paul and the early Christians did (1Cor 1:2)? Do you partake of the flesh of Christ as Jesus commanded (Jn 6:51)? If not, then are you following the command of the Father who said "Listen to

[Scholar]

hMMMMM wrote:

<quoted text>
Yet you post here all of the time stating that you are NOT and never have been a Jehovah's witness?
Why?
Maybe what you meant to say was all Jehovah'sWitnesses are true liars???
Jehovah's Witnesses are not even Christian, they follow some lunatics known as the governing demons NOT Jesus Christ.
They mock all Christians and Christianity, making up the word "Christendom" as some sort of derogatory swear word.

---'Christendom' if you would look the word up in a good dictionary, would find JWs didn't make up the word. Its used by many non-JWs ministers and church historians through out thelogical library reference works.

--- see the world's major trinitarian scholars admit the Trinity was not the original teaching of God, but that the Trinity was invented in 4th century by the Catholic church at the forum 'The false Trinity doctrine', posts #2851-2, 2899, 2901