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“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#1 Sep 10, 2013
I suggest that this proves that the foretelling of 1975 as the year of armageddon was more than a suggestion!

The approaching peace of a 1000 years. WT 10-15-69

36 After this taking away of all human and demon obstructors of world peace there will come the reign of the Prince of Peace over all the earth. God’s fixed time for this is approaching, and along with it the peace of a thousand years. A thousand years equals a millennium. This reminds us of something said in the aforementioned inaugural speech of the American president on January 20, 1969. He remarked upon the approach of things of interest to Americans and to all Christendom.

In the eighth paragraph of his speech the newly sworn-in president said:“Eight years from now America will celebrate its 200th anniversary as a nation. And within the lifetime of most people now living, mankind will celebrate that great new year which comes only once in a thousand years—the beginning of the third millennium.” The president was referring to A.D. 2001.

The next remarks of the president showed that he expected there to be an America in the first year of that third millennium. But for God-fearing students of the Holy Bible containing both the ancient Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Greek Scriptures, there is a more important millennium that compels their attention. That is the seventh millennium! No, not the seventh millennium measured from A.D. 1, but the seventh millennium of man’s existence here on earth, the seventh millennium measured from God’s creation of perfect man and woman in the garden of Eden. This is usually measured according to the Anno Mundi rule or “In the Year of the World” calendar, the world of mankind being here meant.

Does this fact have any bearing on the approach of the peace of a thousand years or of a millennium? Very apparently Yes! According to the calendar of the Orthodox Jews, the new American president delivered his inaugural speech at the beginning of the fifth lunar month of the year 5729 A.M., this date being based on the ancient Hebrew Scriptures alone. But according to chronologers or time checkers who take into account also the inspired Christian Greek Scriptures, the Jewish calendar is more than two hundred years behind time. In certain editions of the Holy Bible, Catholic and Protestant, there have appeared dates according to the chronology of the noted Irish Anglican prelate, Archbishop James Ussher (1581-1656 C.E.). Ussher’s date for man’s creation is 4004 B.C.E. By this reckoning six thousand years or six millenniums of man’s existence would end in the autumn of the coming year of 1996 C.E. after which the seventh millennium of man’s existence would start.

39 More recently earnest researchers of the Holy Bible have made a recheck of its chronology. According to their calculations the six millenniums of mankind’s life on earth WOULD END IN THE MID SEVENTIES. Thus the seventh millennium from man’s creation by Jehovah God would BEGIN WITHIN LESS THAN TEN YEARS.

40 Apart from the global change that present-day world conditions indicate is fast getting near, the arrival of the seventh millennium of man’s existence on earth suggests a gladsome change for war-stricken humankind. According to the first two chapters of the Holy Bible man and woman were created toward the close of the sixth creative day. We are now living in the seventh creative day, and on this seventh day Jehovah God has been resting from earthly creation. To run parallel with this resting of God on his seventh creative day, he gave the Ten Commandments to his prophet Moses, in the fourth one of which God commanded that his chosen people should rest on the seventh day of the week.(Ex. 20:8-11) That day was therefore the weekly sabbath day, the day of desistance from human toil.

*more in next post*

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#2 Sep 10, 2013
*more*

..........46 As under the operation of the Ten Commandments among God’s ancient chosen people all violators of the sabbath day were killed, so those not rendering obedience to the Lord of the coming sabbath millennium and disturbing the peace will be destroyed.(Num. 15:32-36; Ex. 31:13-17) After Satan the Devil and his demons are let loose from the abyss and once again try to disturb the peace of our earth, they will be destroyed, and with them all those who try again to make this earth a battlefield, a war arena.(Rev. 20:7-10, 15) Those who keep peace with God will remain in the Paradise earth as its eternal caretakers.

47 Then it will not be necessary to take a rocket to the moon to find a peaceful planet, for then the prayer in behalf of the Greater Solomon, Jesus Christ the King, will be fulfilled, as recorded in Psalm 72:7:“In his days the righteous one will sprout, and the abundance of peace until the moon is no more.” That peace will never end, any more than the moon. The earthly peace thus established and maintained during the Messiah’s sabbath of a thousand years will continue on forever.

48 Jehovah’s Christian witnesses of today are joyfully preparing for that approaching peace of a thousand years. All who yearn to enjoy that foretold “peace on earth for men whom [God] favours” are heartily invited to join them in getting ready for that blessed millennium of peace.
jace

United States

#3 Sep 10, 2013
At the end of the day the GB finally said they were responsible for 1975 and not the little old black sister down in NC

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#4 Sep 10, 2013
That's not a prophecy, it's a it's a....uhm, your taking it out of context, it says it might happen....uhm, gotta go.....bye.
Right Reverend Feces

Bloomingburg, NY

#5 Sep 10, 2013
The next few weeks are perfect for giving your brain some enjoyable exercise. That could mean burying your nose in a succession of books and only coming out for food, or you might fancy your chances with competitions, puzzles and pub quizzes. It will be a great time for mixing with children, and you'll enjoy playing with them or going on an adventure together.
jace

United States

#6 Sep 10, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
That's not a prophecy, it's a it's a....uhm, your taking it out of context, it says it might happen....uhm, gotta go.....bye.
Yep you are correct it was not a prophecy from the bible

in fact it had nothing to do with the word of God

It was merely the wt writers speculating a out what God might do

Very irresponsible for persons who want to claim that 8 billion humans should listen to what they have to say about the bible

Not really "Faithful" to the bible on view of no mans knows
And certainly not "Discreet" in view of knowing that millions if their readers would assume they actually knew what they were talking about since they claim so often they speak for god. They are his only and Mean only channel on the earth for anyone to get correct bible information and explanations of how scriptures are fulfilled and to be understood

Yep not FAITHFUL OR DISCREET

Doesn't build credibility in ones readers when a journal with such circulation starts floating such god ball ideas as this

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#7 Sep 10, 2013
Oh, in case no one notices, I was doing a 'mock', jw response.

Since: Feb 07

RI

#8 Sep 10, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
That's not a prophecy, it's a it's a....uhm, your taking it out of context, it says it might happen....uhm, gotta go.....bye.
Well, of course, it MUST be out of context. Whatever else could it be? Gareth will soon arrive to bluster about that, but when he is asked to present the entire article, he will scurry away...as usual.
Right Reverend Feces

Bloomingburg, NY

#9 Sep 10, 2013
Your finances haven't exactly been plain sailing recently, so from today you'd be well advised to turn your attention to this area of your life. Follow up any queries and get them sorted out, or go over your accounts with a fine tooth comb so you know exactly where you stand. The coming fortnight is also a good opportunity to apply for a loan or to get some advice about an investment.
jace

United States

#10 Sep 10, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
Oh, in case no one notices, I was doing a 'mock', jw response.
You did such an excellent job
You must have had Exp like many of us in hawking their books

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#11 Sep 10, 2013
jace wrote:
<quoted text>
You did such an excellent job
You must have had Exp like many of us in hawking their books
Extreme mental abuse, borderline physical abuse, extreme violent conditioning to be a jw and hawking their books since I could talk.

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#12 Sep 10, 2013
I recall my dad recounting a conversation that he had with a work colleague.

The fella had asked him what he would do if nothing happened in 1975.

My dad said: "Give us a year either way. If nothing has happened by the end of 1976, I'll sit with you and smoke a pack of Woodbines".
art

London, UK

#13 Sep 11, 2013
What they meant in 1975 was well it may be the end but then again it may not be.
and when 1976 arrives well This is the new light it
just goes to show how flixible new light can be
I would bet anyone $10,000 that the world will not end in 20014.

“Life is short, enjoy life.:-).”

Since: Aug 13

Baghdad, Iraq

#14 Sep 11, 2013
art wrote:
What they meant in 1975 was well it may be the end but then again it may not be.
and when 1976 arrives well This is the new light it
just goes to show how flixible new light can be
I would bet anyone $10,000 that the world will not end in 20014.
That's why it's called a believe and faith without proof.... If it where facts and there was proof it was called science.....;-p

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#15 Sep 11, 2013
Ah, can science be used to predict future events......like the end of the world?
cult debunker

Hanover Park, IL

#16 Sep 11, 2013
Mikronboy wrote:
I recall my dad recounting a conversation that he had with a work colleague.
The fella had asked him what he would do if nothing happened in 1975.
My dad said: "Give us a year either way. If nothing has happened by the end of 1976, I'll sit with you and smoke a pack of Woodbines".
Did your dad leave the wt after the 75 scam?

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#17 Sep 11, 2013
cult debunker wrote:
<quoted text>Did your dad leave the wt after the 75 scam?
No he didn't. My parents later started to refer to anyone who had been stumbled by the false prophesy as "Seventy-fivers".

I guess people believe what they want to believe.

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#18 Sep 12, 2013
Generation thang AND the 70's thang all in one article.

Awake, 10-8-71:

Time of Rest and Refreshment at Hand

OUR generation will see the end of the present pressure-ridden order. In fact, there is even good reason to hope that a new order of God’s making may begin within the PRESENT DECADE. Why is this?.........

.....The generation living in 1914 when ‘these things started to occur’ has now grown old. In the more than half a century that has passed, that generation’s numbers have considerably diminished. Yet the “all things” foretold by Jesus for our day must occur fully before ‘this generation passes completely away.’ That means that the due time for their full occurrence must be near at hand, very close.
gonzo

Mount Pearl, Canada

#19 Sep 12, 2013
Mikronboy wrote:
Generation thang AND the 70's thang all in one article.
Awake, 10-8-71:
Time of Rest and Refreshment at Hand
OUR generation will see the end of the present pressure-ridden order. In fact, there is even good reason to hope that a new order of God’s making may begin within the PRESENT DECADE. Why is this?.........
.....The generation living in 1914 when ‘these things started to occur’ has now grown old. In the more than half a century that has passed, that generation’s numbers have considerably diminished. Yet the “all things” foretold by Jesus for our day must occur fully before ‘this generation passes completely away.’ That means that the due time for their full occurrence must be near at hand, very close.
Man, this brings back so many memories. I remember sitting as a teen for hours on end, listening to endless, endless talks with 1975 as the central theme. 1975 was King. In 75 or shortly thereafter, the world as we know it…would cease.

Everything…and I mean everything JW…pointed to it. They can back-peddle all they want. I know what I heard.

I didn’t know it at the time…but what I heard was the sound of Madness.

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#20 Sep 18, 2013
Fred Franz 1975 talk:

Well, all this book says is that nineteen seventy-five marks the end of the sixth one thousand-year day of man’s existence. Well,
that period of time, those six one-thousand year days which man has survived until now began when? They began on...ON the sixth creative day of
Jehovah God. They began when Adam was created, the first man.........
So it used to be thought that Adam was created on the sixth day and with his creation the sixth day ended and Eve was created in the beginning
of the seventh day. No, the Bible doesn’t put it that way, but both female and male were created on the sixth seven-thousand-year day of Jehovah God...Consequently, the sixth creative day came to an end with the creation of Eve. Now, how long after the creation of Adam that was the Bible does not specify – we cannot definitely calculate. But it was a period of time shorter or longer. Now, if it was just a month after Adam’s creation, then six thousand years from Eve’s creation would still end in this secular calendar year of nineteen hundred and seventy-five – it would end in October. If it was two months after Adam’s creation, then it would end two months after
September the fifth – in November. If it were three months after Adam’s creation, then the time interval would end in December, early in December,
well before December the thirty-first. But if it were longer than three months or if it were a full year after Adam’s creation that Eve was created, then the six thousand years of human existence including Eve would end in nineteen seventy-six. There were two years, say, why, then it would end in nineteen hundred and seventy-seven..........So, Jesus warned us that this thing is coming as a thief in the night. It’s going to snap shut like a trap upon the world of mankind at the outbreak of this great tribulation. And it’s near because he said in Luke chapter
twenty-one that ‘when the fig tree and all the other trees bud, you know that summer is near. In the same way, you also, when you see these things occur you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all things are fulfilled. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my word will by no means pass away,’ and we who are
this generation, particularly those who were on the scene, like Brother (elder John)in nineteen hundred and fourteen, they have lived already
sixty-one years into this generation beyond nineteen hundred and fourteen.

This generation is pretty-well near the close of its life-expectancy here upon this earth and Jesus said this was going to come within this
generation!

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