Debunking the myths of Jehovah's Witn...

Debunking the myths of Jehovah's Witnesses

There are 83 comments on the Northern Daily Leader story from May 16, 2014, titled Debunking the myths of Jehovah's Witnesses. In it, Northern Daily Leader reports that:

THEY roam the streets knocking on our doors, a home delivery bible service carrying the message of God in their hearts and pamphlets in their hands.

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Supremeliberal

Lufkin, TX

#1 May 17, 2014
Lots of people know more about Jehovah Witness than the Watchtower want the public to know,Ex Jehovah Witness are the most expert on Jehovah Witness ,because they once were Jehovah Witness , and know all the secrets and ritual , when Jehovah Witness go to people house ,they should be honest of thier intent and if you are not ,you are not only lying to others ,but too yourself
HighWay Song

Wausau, WI

#2 May 17, 2014
Supremeliberal wrote:
Lots of people know more about Jehovah Witness than the Watchtower want the public to know,Ex Jehovah Witness are the most expert on Jehovah Witness ,because they once were Jehovah Witness , and know all the secrets and ritual , when Jehovah Witness go to people house ,they should be honest of thier intent and if you are not ,you are not only lying to others ,but too yourself
Very Good Post....
They are lying to the Public & also their selves...They fool no one anymore, people r picking up their own bibles this day & age and don't want to be bothered by this deadly&dangerous cult of jws...They are more busy also in todays age and don't have time for 2-3 hours of lies being told and wasting their time..

Many bible studies are also happening that never happened before in time, and now people do know whats in their bibles...
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#3 May 17, 2014
I suspect it depends on the individual involved.

Whether they are promoting a sect

by promoting themselves

Or whether they come in Jehovah's name bearing witness to Jesus and preaching the good news of the Kingdom

The onus is on the householder to determine what the person is promoting when they come to your doors.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#4 May 18, 2014
little lamb wrote:
I suspect it depends on the individual involved.
Whether they are promoting a sect
by promoting themselves
Or whether they come in Jehovah's name bearing witness to Jesus and preaching the good news of the Kingdom
The onus is on the householder to determine what the person is promoting when they come to your doors.
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that Jesus is a created being?

How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that if they become a Witness of Jehovah they will have an opportunity to live 1,000 years with Adolph Hitler, Attilla the Hun, Ted Bundy and other evil people?

How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that the thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn't saved?
Tao Itness

United States

#5 May 18, 2014
Come under the influence of false prophets! Deny the body and blood of Jesus! Deny Him as your mediator!
Become 'one of Jehovah's witnesses!

Since: Dec 07

Melbourne, Australia

#6 May 18, 2014
I had a thought that we could produce a Study titled: "Assumptions, Presumptions, Deceptions and Hypocrisy".

The WTS leadership deceives when it cites sources. This is most significant when it relates to the medical use of blood products. This adds to its actions regarding the neo-Babylonian chronology.

Quite hypocritically, while speaking of "family values", the WTS enforces shunning, in which families are shredded.

Under the light of shunning, people are forced to declare beliefs they do not genuinely hold to, resulting in mental anguish. To this is added the constant mental tension resulting from the WTS's "Armageddon is imminent, so you must stay with us".

This is not fun and games, of intellectual pursuit. The leadership must be exposed for what it is.

Doug

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#7 May 18, 2014
The ones who lie the most about Jehovahs witnesses are ex witnesses.

You should have called this thread Debunking our own strawmen we make up about Jehovahs witnesses.

Example .(strawman) Jehovahs witnesses have given false prophecy this is what the bible says about false prophecy, therefore Jehovahs witnesses are false prophets

Factual: Jehovah's witnesses do not and have never claimed to be able to give prophecies, therefore apostates argument is moot.

Apostate strawman response. Well if they can't give prophecies why have they tried to give prophecies.

Factual Jw response. We haven't.

Wait a while and repeat the cycle.

This is how the conversation with the deluded apostate goes , yet they claim to know all about us when the facts prove otherwise.

The strawman only gives an illusion like a talking serpent. Purely an illusion.

Get the picture.
Justin

Sebastopol, CA

#8 May 18, 2014
TJWandDiva25 wrote:
The ones who lie the most about Jehovahs witnesses are ex witnesses.
You should have called this thread Debunking our own strawmen we make up about Jehovahs witnesses.
Example .(strawman) Jehovahs witnesses have given false prophecy this is what the bible says about false prophecy, therefore Jehovahs witnesses are false prophets
Factual: Jehovah's witnesses do not and have never claimed to be able to give prophecies, therefore apostates argument is moot.
Apostate strawman response. Well if they can't give prophecies why have they tried to give prophecies.
Factual Jw response. We haven't.
Wait a while and repeat the cycle.
This is how the conversation with the deluded apostate goes , yet they claim to know all about us when the facts prove otherwise.
The strawman only gives an illusion like a talking serpent. Purely an illusion.
Get the picture.
From the way you word your posts, TJ, it's obvious that you don't even believe what you write.
The DR

Reston, VA

#9 May 18, 2014
TJWandDiva25 wrote:
The ones who lie the most about Jehovahs witnesses are ex witnesses.
You should have called this thread Debunking our own strawmen we make up about Jehovahs witnesses.
Example .(strawman) Jehovahs witnesses have given false prophecy this is what the bible says about false prophecy, therefore Jehovahs witnesses are false prophets
Factual: Jehovah's witnesses do not and have never claimed to be able to give prophecies, therefore apostates argument is moot.
Apostate strawman response. Well if they can't give prophecies why have they tried to give prophecies.
Factual Jw response. We haven't.
Wait a while and repeat the cycle.
This is how the conversation with the deluded apostate goes , yet they claim to know all about us when the facts prove otherwise.
The strawman only gives an illusion like a talking serpent. Purely an illusion.
Get the picture.
"illusion"

I see you read my post on the other thread.

Get a dictionary and learn some words instead of copying me.

You can't Learn anything in the WT's besides 1+1= 2

Lol.

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#10 May 18, 2014
The DR wrote:
<quoted text>"illusion"
I see you read my post on the other thread.
Get a dictionary and learn some words instead of copying me.
You can't Learn anything in the WT's besides 1+1= 2
Lol.
Do we need to listen to this teaching as the voice of God like the one you claimed earlier? or is this ones man's opinion that we can disagree with without perishing?
The DR

Reston, VA

#11 May 18, 2014
TJWandDiva25 wrote:
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Do we need to listen to this teaching as the voice of God like the one you claimed earlier? or is this ones man's opinion that we can disagree with without perishing?
this "teaching" (more like arse kicking by you gladly bending over)has no relation to the Bible.

This "teaching" ( more like arse kicking by you gladly bending over) has nothing to so with perishing you troll.

If I tell you that Hondas are better cars that statement would have nothing to do with you "perishing" or not "perishing"

If I told you Burger King is better than mcdonalds that teaching would have nothing to do with you "perishing" or not "perishing"

And the same goes for me telling you that "you need to read a dictionary and stop copying me,the WT is not an education" has NOTHING to do with "perishing" or not "perishing"

You claiming that you are going to take part in destroying me at ARMEGEDDON DOES HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ME "PERISHING"

Stop being a troll.

You lose.

And if you want to play troll tit for tat all day THATS fine as I have UNLIMITED ISP's to post from.
Passerby

Edna, TX

#12 May 18, 2014
UNchained wrote:
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How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that Jesus is a created being?
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that if they become a Witness of Jehovah they will have an opportunity to live 1,000 years with Adolph Hitler, Attilla the Hun, Ted Bundy and other evil people?
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that the thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn't saved?
Wow. This is a nice post!

Since: Dec 07

Melbourne, Australia

#13 May 18, 2014
TJWandDiva25 wrote:
The ones who lie the most about Jehovahs witnesses are ex witnesses.
You should have called this thread Debunking our own strawmen we make up about Jehovahs witnesses.
Example .(strawman) Jehovahs witnesses have given false prophecy this is what the bible says about false prophecy, therefore Jehovahs witnesses are false prophets
Factual: Jehovah's witnesses do not and have never claimed to be able to give prophecies, therefore apostates argument is moot.
Apostate strawman response. Well if they can't give prophecies why have they tried to give prophecies.
Factual Jw response. We haven't.
Wait a while and repeat the cycle.
This is how the conversation with the deluded apostate goes , yet they claim to know all about us when the facts prove otherwise.
The strawman only gives an illusion like a talking serpent. Purely an illusion.
Get the picture.
I agree with you that the WTS are not prophets. They are deceivers, pretending to report sources correctly but they misrepresent and misreport those sources. This is particularly significant when it comes to the selective non-use of blood products.

As you and I agree, they are not "prophets". Consider what the WTS says about "prophets":

Doug
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Prophet:“One through whom divine will and purpose are made known.(Lu 1:70; Ac 3:18-21) Although the etymology of the Hebrew term for a prophet is uncertain, the use of this distinctive term shows that true prophets were no ordinary announcers but were spokesmen for God,‘men of God’ with inspired messages.(1Ki 12:22; 2Ki 4:9; 23:17) They stood in God’s “intimate group,” and he revealed his “confidential matter” to them”.

The Greek pro•phe&#8242;tes literally means “a speaker out” and thus describes a proclaimer, one who makes known messages attributed to a divine source.(Compare Tit 1:12.) Though this includes the thought of a predictor of the future, the fundamental meaning of the word is not that of prediction.(“Insight on the Scriptures”, Volume 2, page 694).
hMMMMM

Farmington, UT

#14 May 18, 2014
TJWandDiva25 wrote:
The ones who lie the most about Jehovahs witnesses are ex witnesses.
LOL!
A common denominator of ALL cults is the broad brushing that former members are "liars"
Nope,we share our experiences which are overwhelming negative, for good reason.
curtjester1

Penn Yan, NY

#16 May 22, 2014
Supremeliberal wrote:
Lots of people know more about Jehovah Witness than the Watchtower want the public to know,Ex Jehovah Witness are the most expert on Jehovah Witness ,because they once were Jehovah Witness , and know all the secrets and ritual , when Jehovah Witness go to people house ,they should be honest of thier intent and if you are not ,you are not only lying to others ,but too yourself
I asked an ex-Jehovah's Witness what he now thought of the faithful and discreet slave to that gives Bible knowledge to the flock as a sign of the last days...Matt. 24:45-51? He turned red and said I guess they haven't come yet. Well, they have been telling people all the lies and distortions that are called teachings of the Church from their own Bibles for years and years now. So, when you complain about what the WTS does, you should look at your Bible and at least try to identify what Jesus foretold in the Last Days for you to be getting your spirtual food and knowledge from.
curtjester1

Penn Yan, NY

#17 May 22, 2014
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that Jesus is a created being?
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that if they become a Witness of Jehovah they will have an opportunity to live 1,000 years with Adolph Hitler, Attilla the Hun, Ted Bundy and other evil people?
How many househoders have you talked with and told them the lie that the thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn't saved?
Thousands. Because Jesus is a created being. He is a "begotten" son. If he was eternal, what was he before he was "begotten"? sons of God are angels. Gen. 6:4, Job 1:6, 38:7 and are morning stars just as Jesus is a morning star. Rev. 22:16 Just look in your Bibles.
Jesus was the first of Jehovah's accomplishments. Prov. 8: 30:31 He was the "firstborn of all creation" Col 1:15, Rev. 3:14. He can do nothing of his own initiative, only what he is taught from the Father.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#18 May 27, 2014
Ex Jehovah's witnesses are dead, tho they are still living in the fleshly body. They know only what they think, they are a bad exhalation on the rest of mankind.
Revelation 22:15

Since: Dec 07

Melbourne, Australia

#19 May 27, 2014
curtjester1 wrote:
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Thousands. Because Jesus is a created being. He is a "begotten" son. If he was eternal, what was he before he was "begotten"? sons of God are angels. Gen. 6:4, Job 1:6, 38:7 and are morning stars just as Jesus is a morning star. Rev. 22:16 Just look in your Bibles.
Jesus was the first of Jehovah's accomplishments. Prov. 8: 30:31 He was the "firstborn of all creation" Col 1:15, Rev. 3:14. He can do nothing of his own initiative, only what he is taught from the Father.
Why does it matter? Will God fume and burn anyone who does not have a 100% comprehension of his nature?

The WTS has a Jesus who was a Spirit that morphed into a human who died and is alive as a spirit being. They thus have their own Trinity: three natures - spirit>human>spirit, yet one person!

The morning star is also known as Lucifer.

"Firstborn" does not mean "first born".
Was the spirit Jesus "born" of a female God?

Supernatural superstition based on the opinions of a Late Iron Age people and of an anonymous writer of Colossians.

Doug
Doug
billy

Houston, TX

#20 May 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Ex Jehovah's witnesses are dead, tho they are still living in the fleshly body. They know only what they think, they are a bad exhalation on the rest of mankind.
Revelation 22:15
Revelation 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Yep, full of hate.
billy

Houston, TX

#21 May 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Ex Jehovah's witnesses are dead, tho they are still living in the fleshly body. They know only what they think, they are a bad exhalation on the rest of mankind.
Revelation 22:15
This is not something a "true christian" would say.

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