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UGETTHAT

Melbourne, Australia

#62 Nov 12, 2011
I wondered when you were going to show your face, diogenes. Both teary and diogenes both mislead readers on 'threads', might be because they seem to want the ZERO Child Protection Policy to be maintained in WTBTS. This would suit them as many child abusers like that they can be covered up in all cicumstances. WTBTS has been a child abusers paradise for far to long.
So teary and diogenes, have you got the Child Protection Policy for WTBTS YET? Not there is it. The only place it would be found is in The Kingdom Ministry, and its NOT THERE!
Both you people make me sick!! Mentally Diseased, you both are!

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#63 Nov 12, 2011
Maravilla wrote:
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. I see.. Pretty much like a( Order of Protection).. means about as much as the paper it is written on.. Doesn't mean that there is a invisible fence to keep a person safe.. Just means the Cops might apprehend the offender ..after the damage is done again..
Tell me .. If your child was molested by a person or Elder..from your hall.. Do you think that so called Policy would make it all better????
You are not making much sense here.

No policy will stop paedophiles from being paedophiles.

But lets blame the paedophiles and not the innocent shall we? The fact is that you people are using this to further your theological agendas, its not really about kids. Jehovah's Witnesses do the best they can to protect kids, unlike certain other religions.

Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#64 Nov 12, 2011
Aneirin wrote:
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You are not making much sense here.
No policy will stop paedophiles from being paedophiles.
But lets blame the paedophiles and not the innocent shall we? The fact is that you people are using this to further your theological agendas, its not really about kids. Jehovah's Witnesses do the best they can to protect kids, unlike certain other religions.
Very true. In the end this really does boil down to nothing more than theological bias. It is the driver behind everything.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#65 Nov 12, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
Most states already have what is known as a "sex offender registry." Parents can go and check that list any time they want for any person that they want.
So to pretend that the elders flirting with violating privacy laws is the only possible way for a parent to know about these things is stupid.
"JW will believe anything as long as someone spews it from a platform in a KH..very sad to see kids still getting abuse cause they have no policy."--lise
And apparently an apostaposer will believe anything, no matter how obviously untrue or ridiculous, so long as it is spewed from the mouth of another apostaposer.
. Well now..tell us Teary.. do you go check the registry to see if and of your fellow elbow rubbers are on it.??? Problem ..with that theory.. is ..many witnesses wouldn't even concieve of thinking that there might be an offender in their midst .unless it happen to one in their own family.. Might have something to do with the WTS. telling them cronically how loving and safe they are in side the only church that has the truth... A false sense of security ..if you must.

Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#66 Nov 12, 2011
Maravilla wrote:
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. Well now..tell us Teary.. do you go check the registry to see if and of your fellow elbow rubbers are on it.??? Problem ..with that theory.. is ..many witnesses wouldn't even concieve of thinking that there might be an offender in their midst .unless it happen to one in their own family.. Might have something to do with the WTS. telling them cronically how loving and safe they are in side the only church that has the truth... A false sense of security ..if you must.
You are delusional and your theories are nonsensical.

1. Yes Teary knows exactly who and who isn't a registered sex offender in his town.

2. Yes, the Witness families that Teary knows also look at the sex offender lists, because they are human beings and care about their family members' safety.

3. The Witnesses do not claim that they are perfect, and admit that abuse can happen even among brothers.

4. Stop dehumanizing the Witnesses and treating them like idiots. It makes you look really bad.

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#67 Nov 12, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
Teary isn't familiar with many, if any, lawsuits against the Witnesses from the 80's.
Most of the significant lawsuits happened in the late 90's and throughout the 2000's when Love and Norris started to get involved; and even most of those late claims referred to events that were alleged to have happened 15-30 years in the past.
But even then, were any of them successful? Did any of them prove any negligence whatsoever on the part of the Society? As ThirdWitness summarizes:
Rees Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Amy B Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Amber Long Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Heidi Meyers Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Berry Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Beal et al Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Decorso Vs WT--Summarily dismissed.
Erica Garza Rodriguez Vs WT--Dismissed.
Nolen's Eleven Vs WT--Dropped or summarily dismissed.
Boer Vs WT--WT nets $137,000.
Welch, Nicole D, Tabitha H. Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Kara L. Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Daniel West et al Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Wimberly Gutierez et al Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Tim W Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Jared Grafmyer Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
A.B., G.G., S.H.,N.H., et al Vs WT--dismissed with prejudice.
Friends of Amanda M. Vs WT--dismissed without prejudice.
Watchtower Society found negligent--ZERO
So was Michael Jacksons case was dismissed. Why did the Watchtower Society of JW's pay Frederick McLeans vicitms over $700,000?

Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#68 Nov 12, 2011
Lordylordy9111 wrote:
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Why did the Watchtower Society of JW's pay Frederick McLeans vicitms over $700,000?
1. We don't know for certain that it was actually the WTBTS that paid all or part of the alleged $700,000, since they could well have already received summary judgment at that point.

2. Settlements in civil matters do not carry any admission of guilt, not do they necessarily imply guilt. But if anything, it does show that the 'victims' were more interested in money than in justice.

Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#69 Nov 12, 2011
And Teary is sorry, he keeps using the term "guilt" even though it is not really appropriate. The correct term in cases like these is "liability."

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#70 Nov 12, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
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1. We don't know for certain that it was actually the WTBTS that paid all or part of the alleged $700,000, since they could well have already received summary judgment at that point.
2. Settlements in civil matters do not carry any admission of guilt, not do they necessarily imply guilt. But if anything, it does show that the 'victims' were more interested in money than in justice.
Who paid it if the Watchtower society didn't?

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#71 Nov 12, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
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1. We don't know for certain that it was actually the WTBTS that paid all or part of the alleged $700,000, since they could well have already received summary judgment at that point.
2. Settlements in civil matters do not carry any admission of guilt, not do they necessarily imply guilt. But if anything, it does show that the 'victims' were more interested in money than in justice.
Michael Jackson settled out of court. Do you think he was innocent?

“Orlando, FL”

Since: Dec 08

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#72 Nov 12, 2011
The Governing Body does not have to answer to any earthly court.

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#73 Nov 12, 2011
circuitoverseer wrote:
The Governing Body does not have to answer to any earthly court.
So if they don't anwer to earthly courts than they shouldn't eat earthly foods?
UGETTHAT

Melbourne, Australia

#74 Nov 12, 2011
circuitoverseer wrote:
The Governing Body does not have to answer to any earthly court.
Really, quick we better tell the Magistrates Court of Victoria this amazing revelation so they can stop all Criminal Charges against the GB.
The GB arnt in heaven yet so they have to be in subjection to the 'superior authorities'.

“Orlando, FL”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#75 Nov 12, 2011
Lordylordy9111 wrote:
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So if they don't anwer to earthly courts than they shouldn't eat earthly foods?
The Governing Body is Jehovah's representatives on earth.

They only answer to him.

That is why the Governing Body has not acknowledged any charges brought against them in Australia.

The Australian government has no jurisdiction over the Governing Body beacuse they are Jehovah's representatives on earth.

Jehovah will not allow the Australian government to prosecute or convict the Governing Body of any misconduct or criminal charges.

Anyone who fights against the Governing body is fighting against Jehovah.

“Orlando, FL”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#76 Nov 12, 2011
UGETTHAT wrote:
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Really, quick we better tell the Magistrates Court of Victoria this amazing revelation so they can stop all Criminal Charges against the GB.
The GB arnt in heaven yet so they have to be in subjection to the 'superior authorities'.
The Governing Body are Jehovah's earthly spokesmen.

They are not answerable to any earthly court.
UGETTHAT

Melbourne, Australia

#77 Nov 12, 2011
circuitoverseer wrote:
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The Governing Body are Jehovah's earthly spokesmen.
They are not answerable to any earthly court.
Me thinks you been dropped on your head one to many times! Like anyone here on Earth, you can be Criminally Charged. Nobody in Jehovahs Organization is above the Law either Earthly or Theocraticly. Have you possibly conceded that these Criminal Charges are part of a cleansing to get rid of some bad apples.

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#78 Nov 12, 2011
circuitoverseer wrote:
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The Governing Body is Jehovah's representatives on earth.
They only answer to him.
That is why the Governing Body has not acknowledged any charges brought against them in Australia.
The Australian government has no jurisdiction over the Governing Body beacuse they are Jehovah's representatives on earth.
Jehovah will not allow the Australian government to prosecute or convict the Governing Body of any misconduct or criminal charges.
Anyone who fights against the Governing body is fighting against Jehovah.
When the GB go to jail for criminal acts of protecting pedophiles, they can tell the judge he has no jurisdiction over them. They didn't have jurisdiction over Jesus, who was innocent and never committed a crime, and they killed him. If they are Jehovah's representatives why are they living in luxury? Jesus didn't. Aren't they suppose to imitate him? Do you have any idea what kind of cars they drive?

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#79 Nov 12, 2011
circuitoverseer wrote:
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The Governing Body are Jehovah's earthly spokesmen.
They are not answerable to any earthly court.
Jesus was charged with sedition, some of the deciples and apostles were held before courts and charged, were they not, in there case they were not guilty by the higher of court of Jehovah, the GB are not ammuned to worldly courts, in fact they love getting their lawyers to go to court in defence of their image and reputation, and even if it is paying out millions of dollars to silence victims of child sexual abuse, they use the courts to help other brothers also if it suits them.

So what are you talking about.

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Forest, VA

#80 Nov 12, 2011
In fact, these high powered crafty serpent lawyers of the Watchtower society go into the courtroom, not to find out the truth, but to discredit the victims. Jesus would have never used such serpents for lawyers. The Watchtower society does not imitate Jesus. They are nothing.

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#81 Nov 12, 2011
UGETTHAT wrote:
I wondered when you were going to show your face, diogenes. Both teary and diogenes both mislead readers on 'threads', might be because they seem to want the ZERO Child Protection Policy to be maintained in WTBTS. This would suit them as many child abusers like that they can be covered up in all cicumstances. WTBTS has been a child abusers paradise for far to long.
So teary and diogenes, have you got the Child Protection Policy for WTBTS YET? Not there is it. The only place it would be found is in The Kingdom Ministry, and its NOT THERE!
Both you people make me sick!! Mentally Diseased, you both are!
good post of course they will ignore this, makes one wonder who these people really are, are they really concerned about protecting JW children, makes one wonder!!

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