If Jesus WAS God.....
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#142 Sep 22, 2012
Apple wrote:
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do not doubt what is written in the bible, it was wine not coloured water.
Kind of like where one passage of the bible says judas died by hanging himself and another passage says judas walked in and his guts spewed out of him and he fell dead. I see.
Apple

Singapore, Singapore

#143 Sep 22, 2012
dr of religion wrote:
<quoted text> Kind of like where one passage of the bible says judas died by hanging himself and another passage says judas walked in and his guts spewed out of him and he fell dead. I see.
Judas did hang himself - on a stake by falling on it, which caused his bowels to gush out.
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#144 Sep 22, 2012
Apple wrote:
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Judas did hang himself - on a stake by falling on it, which caused his bowels to gush out.
Wow he must have been an acrobat hah.he jumps up hangs himself the after he's dead he jumps on a sharp stake and cuts his guts out.Nice try Orange, But one verse has judas throwing the money down walking out and going and hanging himself.The other has judas buying a field and walking into it and falling headlong bursting open and his intestines fall out.No sharp stake to be found. Read it yourself pear,(Matt 27:5) and (Acts 1:18)
Apple

Singapore, Singapore

#145 Sep 22, 2012
dr of religion wrote:
<quoted text> Wow he must have been an acrobat hah.he jumps up hangs himself the after he's dead he jumps on a sharp stake and cuts his guts out.Nice try Orange, But one verse has judas throwing the money down walking out and going and hanging himself.The other has judas buying a field and walking into it and falling headlong bursting open and his intestines fall out.No sharp stake to be found. Read it yourself pear,(Matt 27:5) and (Acts 1:18)
so confusing yeh.. but who cares how judas scariot died. he is not the savior.
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#146 Sep 22, 2012
Apple wrote:
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so confusing yeh.. but who cares how judas scariot died. he is not the savior.
Im not worried about him,Im just showing how reliable the bible isnt.Now they foud an old writing sayin jesus had a wife.Critics are condeming it because it was written a hundred years after the time of jesus.Yet matt,matk,luke and john were all written from fifty to a hundred twenty years after the death of jesus.So why keep one and throw out the other?They pick and choose what sounds like it fits their views.
Anonymous

Olive Branch, MS

#147 Sep 22, 2012
Turning Water ito wine;" the best wine",showed Jesus complete control over time and space,"HE[Jehovah] causes .....wine which makes man's heart glad".PS 104:10-15.From rain to wine in an instant!
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#148 Sep 22, 2012
the Mad JW wrote:
True- but the Mother of God??????
HOO_HAH!
Listen up kid ya see.Mary was a vessel for god to become flesh ya see kid.God has no mother ya see kid.As it says the word became flesh and dwelt among men.Now what was the word well it says the word was god.I win again kid.im good arent I? Please I dont sign autographs!!!!!

Since: Mar 09

United States

#149 Sep 22, 2012
Jesus did not come to earth to marry. He came to do his Father's Will...only that.
apple

Singapore, Singapore

#150 Sep 23, 2012
dr of religion wrote:
<quoted text> Im not worried about him,Im just showing how reliable the bible isnt.Now they foud an old writing sayin jesus had a wife.Critics are condeming it because it was written a hundred years after the time of jesus.Yet matt,matk,luke and john were all written from fifty to a hundred twenty years after the death of jesus.So why keep one and throw out the other?They pick and choose what sounds like it fits their views.
the bible was written by different people, different explanations and
they were not so sure what happened during the reign of jesus?
the first bible was found hidden in a urn covered underground.
most of the pages were eaten up by age and they tried to solve the puzzle.
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#151 Sep 23, 2012
apple wrote:
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the bible was written by different people, different explanations and
they were not so sure what happened during the reign of jesus?
the first bible was found hidden in a urn covered underground.
most of the pages were eaten up by age and they tried to solve the puzzle.
Thats the problem, The stories about jesus were written 60 to 130 years after his death.And thats when they didnt have computers to look up the past they went on hear say and storys handed down.In 100 years the story could be far off from the original.

Since: Nov 11

East Alton, IL

#152 Sep 23, 2012
dr of religion wrote:
<quoted text>Thats funny you should say that.I being a retired science teacher have turned water into wine.yes my friend I showed my class how its done.Its quite simple.All you need is a couple glasses and some sodium carbonate,water,and phenolphthalein ph indicator. Now you sprinkle soduim carbonate to coat the bottom of a glass or what jesus had a wine holder.Then fill a second glass halfway full of water.Then add roughly 1/8 teaspoon of phenophthalein ph indicator solution to the water.The glasses can be prepared in advance as probably jesuses were. To change the water into wine, poor the water with indicator into the glass that contains the sodium carbonate.Stir a little to mix it together. The water will turn from clear to red. To change it back to clear just blow into the red glass and it will become clear again.Its nothing fancy or wonderful folks just plain old chemical reaction.
I wonder which apothecary shop Jesus got his sodium carbonate and phenophthalein ph indicator solution?
Messianic Jew

Ormond Beach, FL

#153 Sep 23, 2012
If there was an original...

As far as this comparative religious student is concerned, most of the NT is based upon the Mithraic mystery religion.

The idea of "virgin birth" stolen from Greek myth.

Isaiah 7:14 by the way, is entirely fulfilled in Isaiah 8:3.

What two kings had their spoil removed in Jesus' day? What good is a sign to Ahaz that doesn't come until long after his death?

Maher-shal-ahash baz is Emmanuel. The prophetess' child. Isaiah's child.
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#154 Sep 23, 2012
beckyss wrote:
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I wonder which apothecary shop Jesus got his sodium carbonate and phenophthalein ph indicator solution?
Well maybe them missing years he hung aroung a chemical master and learned many tricks as water to wine,raising the dead.I think he invented the mentos in the coke bottle trick.
Anonymous

Olive Branch, MS

#155 Sep 23, 2012
Isa.9:6"He shall be called the Mighty God",EL GIBBOR"."GOD THE MIGHTY{MAN}"
.Is not "God in the flesh" implict in this term?And at ZECH 11:13,YHWH is the one sold for thirty pieces of silver.AT ZECH 12:10 YHWH is pierced in the person of his Son.Yes the sword was awakened against YHWH's familey member at ZECH 13:7.HE was Son of God before time and space was created,the one through wohom god made the "ages"HEB 1:2

Since: Nov 11

East Alton, IL

#156 Sep 23, 2012
dr of religion wrote:
<quoted text> Well maybe them missing years he hung aroung a chemical master and learned many tricks as water to wine,raising the dead.I think he invented the mentos in the coke bottle trick.
yeah, and I think that Lazarus wasn't really dead. They just set it up to look like a miracle.. And can you believe that the blind guy faked it all those years just to look like a miracle? Wow, the lengths Jesus and others went to to try and trick us.:)
Messianic Jew

Ormond Beach, FL

#157 Sep 23, 2012
beckyss wrote:
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yeah, and I think that Lazarus wasn't really dead. They just set it up to look like a miracle.. And can you believe that the blind guy faked it all those years just to look like a miracle? Wow, the lengths Jesus and others went to to try and trick us.:)
See, you would think if he really were an empowered and anointed Messiah with all the power of God at his hand to perform all kinds of wonders, he would have done so on a larger scale, instead of just walking on water for a few of his friends, and spitting on disabled people to cure them.

For instance, how about turning all of the world's deserts into fertile productive land? How about ending all sickness and disease the first time he came? How about ending all the world's problems like a true Messiah will/would?

Because he wasn't the Messiah. Because the world is still just as screwed up as when this claimant showed up.

The over used face saver of "he will do all that at his second coming" is the most asinine argument at large. He should have got off his ass and done it the first time. A real messiah won't need any "second chance".

This is why the Jews rejected him. He simply didn't do ANYTHING Messianic. All he did was mimic several solar deities of past stories,(Dionysus mainly).
dr of religion

Winnetka, IL

#158 Sep 23, 2012
beckyss wrote:
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yeah, and I think that Lazarus wasn't really dead. They just set it up to look like a miracle.. And can you believe that the blind guy faked it all those years just to look like a miracle? Wow, the lengths Jesus and others went to to try and trick us.:)
The blind guy had eye mucas that sealed his eyes shut.jesus told him go wash your face and eyes with this mudd and water and you shall see. Of course the mudd and water removed the mucas from the guys eyes.Trick solved, NEXT!!!!
apple

Singapore, Singapore

#159 Sep 23, 2012
how come 1,000 pigs killed themselves with legend by jumping off the cliff, if jesus is not god?
apple

Singapore, Singapore

#160 Sep 23, 2012
how come the storm obeyed him?

how come he know there is a coin inside the fish?

go figure
Messianic Jew

Ormond Beach, FL

#161 Sep 23, 2012
apple wrote:
how come 1,000 pigs killed themselves with legend by jumping off the cliff, if jesus is not god?
What a waste of bacon and pork chops! With all those starving poor peasants back then, you would think Jesus would have done something more useful with all that food. Oh wait, that's right, swine is an unclean and detestable beast to be used only as a garbage can...

Kind of hard to "make pigs clean" when you're casting demons into them...

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