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Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Nov 5, 2012
Wtbts denies that voting is grounds for disfellowshping! Can anyone find anything to the contrary?
hMMMM

Aurora, IL

#2 Nov 5, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
Wtbts denies that voting is grounds for disfellowshping! Can anyone find anything to the contrary?
Really?
Is this new light?
Are JWs now allowed to vote and serve in the military?
Skinx

Youngstown, OH

#3 Nov 5, 2012
I wouldn't vote for a man if he paid me, and I'm sure that lots of folks will be paid for their votes tomorrow.
If you choose a man to lead you rather than God, you deserve what you get. The Israelites learned that lesson hard. Look what's happening to them in their country. They wouldn't HAVE a country if they hadn't sought out "Egypt" (the US) to protect them, just as they did in Isaiah's day.
But, when you do that, bear in mind that
1 John 5:19 "The whole world is lying in the power of the evil one."

That means any political leader anywhere in the world is under Satan's control.

"Seek first the kingdom and his righteousness..."
"The meek shall inherit the earth."
Patience is a virtue.
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Nov 5, 2012
Skinx wrote:
I wouldn't vote for a man if he paid me, and I'm sure that lots of folks will be paid for their votes tomorrow.
If you choose a man to lead you rather than God, you deserve what you get. The Israelites learned that lesson hard. Look what's happening to them in their country. They wouldn't HAVE a country if they hadn't sought out "Egypt" (the US) to protect them, just as they did in Isaiah's day.
But, when you do that, bear in mind that
1 John 5:19 "The whole world is lying in the power of the evil one."
That means any political leader anywhere in the world is under Satan's control.
"Seek first the kingdom and his righteousness..."
"The meek shall inherit the earth."
Patience is a virtue.
That's a personal choice, I can respect that, but being threaten by someone or some org. not to vote is against FED LAW!
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#5 Nov 5, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
<quoted text>That's a personal choice, I can respect that, but being threaten by someone or some org. not to vote is against FED LAW!
Interesting!!
You hit the nail on the head.
But they will whisper about you and not let you handle the microphones at the Watchtower "study"
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Nov 5, 2012
hMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
Is this new light?
Are JWs now allowed to vote and serve in the military?
Many jw's work for companies that contract with the military. What's the difference between making a bullet or shooting one?
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#7 Nov 5, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
<quoted text>Many jw's work for companies that contract with the military. What's the difference between making a bullet or shooting one?
What's the difference between collecting Veteran's benefits and being a conscientious objector??

Jehovah'sWitnesses are hypocrites, everyone else on planet earth sees it but them.

The Watchtower just prints fiction of how "admired" they are, and the lemmings just nod their heads and believe it.

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#8 Nov 5, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
Wtbts denies that voting is grounds for disfellowshping! Can anyone find anything to the contrary?
I don't think they consider it a disfellowshipping offense, I think they call it disassociation. They say if anyone breaks their neutrality rules, they have disassociated themselves. It seems like the governing body, and their representatives making themselves a part of the political organizations and having fellowship with other religious organizations in those NGO's have disassociated themselves, and they should be displaced by others of their little flock community.

sidgi
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Nov 5, 2012
Disassociating yourself is a term that any lawyer could drive a truck through! It still means obey the wtbts or your out. What sin is committed by voting, also read the story about Cornelius Acts 10:1-31. The wtbts talks out of both sides of their mouth!

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#10 Nov 6, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
Disassociating yourself is a term that any lawyer could drive a truck through! It still means obey the wtbts or your out. What sin is committed by voting, also read the story about Cornelius Acts 10:1-31. The wtbts talks out of both sides of their mouth!
I don't disagree

sidgi

Since: Apr 09

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#11 Nov 6, 2012
sidgi wrote:
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I don't think they consider it a disfellowshipping offense, I think they call it disassociation. They say if anyone breaks their neutrality rules, they have disassociated themselves. It seems like the governing body, and their representatives making themselves a part of the political organizations and having fellowship with other religious organizations in those NGO's have disassociated themselves, and they should be displaced by others of their little flock community.
sidgi
That is the way I remember it. There is some legal reason these people can't be disfellowshipped, but it has been so long, I don't remember what it is.
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Nov 6, 2012
emmaswish wrote:
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That is the way I remember it. There is some legal reason these people can't be disfellowshipped, but it has been so long, I don't remember what it is.
The legal reason is it is against Fedaral law, no one including the wtbts can induce fear for the pupose of impeding or preventing the free exercise of voting! I wonder how many jw's were disfellowshiped by some narcissistic elder/elders and destroyed some jw's lives and the wtbts did nothing to correct their error? The same thing happened during the 1966 draft call many loyal jw's were disfellowshiped just because some elders thought they were in charge of who belongs and who does'nt!!Again the wtbts did nothing!!
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Nov 7, 2012
Come on Aneririn can't you defend the wtbts on this issue! Can't you come up with a scripture or a wtbts pamphlet defending the wtbts? How about a pamphlet or a scripture saying it's a sin to salute the flag, or say the pledge of allegiance, and one should be disfelowshipped for doing so,or would you recomend just never get bapised!
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Nov 13, 2012
Why did this thread get buried? Did all the spineless jw's head for the hills?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#15 Nov 13, 2012
FYE: There is no distinction, in principle or theocratic arrangement, from "disfellowshipping" or "disassociating". It's the same thing.
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#16 Nov 13, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
<quoted text>The legal reason is it is against Fedaral law, no one including the wtbts can induce fear for the pupose of impeding or preventing the free exercise of voting! I wonder how many jw's were disfellowshiped by some narcissistic elder/elders and destroyed some jw's lives and the wtbts did nothing to correct their error? The same thing happened during the 1966 draft call many loyal jw's were disfellowshiped just because some elders thought they were in charge of who belongs and who does'nt!!Again the wtbts did nothing!!
Yes, the WBTS never does anything because it is immoral or wrong, only when their legal team tells them they have to stop or get sued
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Nov 14, 2012
This thread is proof positive how the wtbts handles issues that are deemed a sin and punishable by disfellowshipping,but will not debate this issue in print! Tha wtbts doesn't have the backbone to admit they have beeen wrong on this issue or reinstate brothers and sisters that have been wrongly disfellowshiped. Wonder how many lives they have ruined,and that my friend is a sin!

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#18 Nov 14, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
This thread is proof positive how the wtbts handles issues that are deemed a sin and punishable by disfellowshipping,but will not debate this issue in print! Tha wtbts doesn't have the backbone to admit they have beeen wrong on this issue or reinstate brothers and sisters that have been wrongly disfellowshiped. Wonder how many lives they have ruined,and that my friend is a sin!
This has always been a sore spot with me, so many were DFed when the GB had one opinion....and when THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS.... those same DFed ones were still treated as lepers. It wasn't fair then and is not fair now. How can anyone in his right mind even begin to think that this evil cult is being led or guided by Christ? It makes no sense at all.
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Nov 16, 2012
Are the Jehovah's Witness's a cult?

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#20 Nov 17, 2012
Remnant143999 wrote:
Are the Jehovah's Witness's a cult?
YES

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