Centerton man fires shots at Jehovah's witnesses

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The Centerton Police arrested a man, accused of firing close to 19 rounds at a group of Jehovah's witnesses, on Saturday .

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#360 Oct 7, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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The JW teachers do not teach to hate anyone--that is false information from you.
You think a temporary fix for widows and orphans are helping them--The JW teachers apply the permanent fix which is the real help widows and orphans need by listening to Jesus and teaching his truth on how to fix such matters. by this truth--Keep on seeking first the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness, and all these other things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)---- this is a promise from Jesus that if one does these two things they will have everything they need. So which is the wiser path a 1 hour fix or a permanent fix?
The JW teachers fix the errors they make, unlike any other religion who think they are immune from satans attacks.
Here is a real false prophecy---heaven or hell as the end--Jesus taught--The meek will inherit the earth.--so to teach heaven or hell as the end one has to throw Jesus' truth in the garbage. And they do.
They aren't going to be here to worship the org if you don't feed them.

They may fix some of the errors, but really it's just a correction, they are never accountable and never try to make up for all the harm they do when they 'error'.
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#361 Oct 7, 2013
I enjoyed everyones comments, shows that we live in a country where people for the most part THINK.
So there is hope! Have a nice day.
Leslie

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#362 Oct 7, 2013
If that's your way of thinking... You have already condemed yourself to hell!!!

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#363 Oct 7, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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The JW teachers do not teach to hate anyone--that is false information from you.
You think a temporary fix for widows and orphans are helping them--The JW teachers apply the permanent fix which is the real help widows and orphans need by listening to Jesus and teaching his truth on how to fix such matters. by this truth--Keep on seeking first the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness, and all these other things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)---- this is a promise from Jesus that if one does these two things they will have everything they need. So which is the wiser path a 1 hour fix or a permanent fix?
The JW teachers fix the errors they make, unlike any other religion who think they are immune from satans attacks.
Here is a real false prophecy---heaven or hell as the end--Jesus taught--The meek will inherit the earth.--so to teach heaven or hell as the end one has to throw Jesus' truth in the garbage. And they do.
Many Jehovah's Witnesses have adopted orphans, including those from war-torn countries where parents (and not only those from JW families) have been killed. But with all the world's "money," and religion's "money," you'd think they could have all the housing for orphans and the homeless they wanted and needed. But we know that isn't going to happen -- and this world is slated for a change by means of God's kingdom.
Leslie

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#364 Oct 7, 2013
Sorry, my post was to Matt9969
Prime

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#365 Oct 7, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
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We all make mistakes. Even big ones. People as well as groups make mistakes. Since you say that the "three" gods you talk about are working in unity to "save mankind," why indeed does mankind need saving? Martin Luther predicted the "end," yet it did not come when he thought it would. Think he'll be burning in that lake of fire you have devised as waiting to engulf its victims in and burn them forever in conscious horrible agony? John Calvin and other religious leaders said and did things you probably believe are unscriptural. So?
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That is not true. You are saying that one cannot be one of Jehovah's Witnesses and yet belong to Christ, isn't that right? With you, it's either/or. That's how you see it, don't think for a second I think you belong to Christ. But then -- that's how "I" see it.
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No, they are not. You are doing that by your misteachings.
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People like you aren't teaching the Bible, and there are many that claim to believe the Bible but don't teach it.
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What you say above is not true, but you will misunderstand deliberately or not what is the truth of the matter. But here's a little question for you: how close was the end 500 years ago?
LOL! Oh how cute, look who's back, it's miserachord, with her 30th new name!

LOL I Iove how you rebels treat the GB like the impotent jackasses they are, by doing what you want and coming to these sites when they have told you not to.

I dont understand why you all bother trying to pretend you're someone else though? You certainly don't fool any of us!
Prime

United States

#366 Oct 7, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
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Will you do that? teach out of a "normal bible"? When you say "rose colored glasses," do you mean the hope I enjoy of God's kingdom solving mankind's problems, and the hope I have for the future? I usually quote from the NIV, or the King James Version, would you consider those "normal bibles"?
Don't you really mean misquote? That's what JW'S do!

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#367 Oct 7, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
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They aren't going to be here to worship the org if you don't feed them.
They may fix some of the errors, but really it's just a correction, they are never accountable and never try to make up for all the harm they do when they 'error'.
I disagree with your sweeping premise. That is simply not true. And God is God. People are not. When Moses made an error, he did not try to "make it up" to anyone. Nor did Aaron, David, Bathsheba, etc. God took notice, and punishes and blesses those HE wants to, each one will stand to his own master, but in the end, we all will account for ourselves to God, no matter how He does it. Corrections are better than non-corrections. And if a person is responsible for any lasting harm, God himself will take notice. The people rejoiced when Jesus was killed, remember how many were tortured because of religious error, or someone else's problems or misconceptions. Man's opinion of another really does not matter. It's God that counts, and so each one of us will face the reality in the future, no matter how we reason now, rightly or wrongly.
When David sinned, the people knew it. But he did not account to the people, he was forgiven because he accounted to God. David is only one man in the machine, there are many, many others with worse sins and problems than David had, but he was forgiven; he did not go before the people to ask for forgiveness. God forgave him.
Leslie

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#368 Oct 7, 2013
John wrote:
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Hey "MATT", a couple of things you need to get schooled on (because you're just another braindead, gun loving white trash redneck asshole with no brain to speak of)
The Jehovah's Witnesses have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to be there at yours or anyone elses door step. The same Constitution that protects your right to own your gun. The LAW prohibits someone from SHOOTING AN UNARMED PERSON WHO POSES NO IMMINENT THREAT to you or your property. What is a BIBLE going to to to YOU? Oh that's right, you might have to READ.
My grandmother was a Jehovah's Witness. I'm not. But if I ever had a chance to meet you or this fuckwad in person, I'd take your gun and shove it straight up your faggot ass sideways.
I'm w/ you John!
Leslie

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#369 Oct 7, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
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Would you help me hang my Christmas lights? NO
Would you help me set up a church picnic? No
Would you help me set up a church charity garage sale? No
Would you report one of your brothers to the police if you witnessed them molesting a young child? No
Would you return if I told you not to? Yes
You mean you actually go to church. Not sure of any religion that would agree with you that someone should be shot.

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#370 Oct 7, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
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I disagree with your sweeping premise. That is simply not true. And God is God. People are not. When Moses made an error, he did not try to "make it up" to anyone. Nor did Aaron, David, Bathsheba, etc. God took notice, and punishes and blesses those HE wants to, each one will stand to his own master, but in the end, we all will account for ourselves to God, no matter how He does it. Corrections are better than non-corrections. And if a person is responsible for any lasting harm, God himself will take notice. The people rejoiced when Jesus was killed, remember how many were tortured because of religious error, or someone else's problems or misconceptions. Man's opinion of another really does not matter. It's God that counts, and so each one of us will face the reality in the future, no matter how we reason now, rightly or wrongly.
When David sinned, the people knew it. But he did not account to the people, he was forgiven because he accounted to God. David is only one man in the machine, there are many, many others with worse sins and problems than David had, but he was forgiven; he did not go before the people to ask for forgiveness. God forgave him.
Didn't expect you or the org to take accountability for all the damage they have done. You call it blood guilt, right? Yet, if the org is wronged in there eyes, someone has to be accountable. They cry persecution at the drop of a hat and condemn those who no longer believe in them. That doesn't seem too much like letting God deal with things. They will judge and condemn you in a NY minute. Wait on Jehovah anyone who isn't a JW, but we will scratch and fight to the end. Well the GB's got some splainin' to do eh?
Leslie

United States

#371 Oct 7, 2013
Yacob Jacob wrote:
As an exJW....we deserve to get shot.
That's why you were disfellowshipped, obviously

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#372 Oct 7, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
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Didn't expect you or the org to take accountability for all the damage they have done. You call it blood guilt, right? Yet, if the org is wronged in there eyes, someone has to be accountable. They cry persecution at the drop of a hat and condemn those who no longer believe in them. That doesn't seem too much like letting God deal with things. They will judge and condemn you in a NY minute. Wait on Jehovah anyone who isn't a JW, but we will scratch and fight to the end. Well the GB's got some splainin' to do eh?
Time will be a very decisive factor.:-) Humans are humans. God is God, and organizations are organizations. Think about it. People didn't like Moses (SOME people.) Some people didn't like "Israel" as a country.:-) People, some people, didn't like Jesus. Some people didn't like the apostles, some people killed some of them that history talks about. Maybe God forgives some of them. Some people killed Jesus. Some people wanted to kill David, who eventually set up Bathsheba's husband for death. But God not only forgave him, but blessed him. Cain killed Abel. Lots of splaining for you to think about as far as what GOD takes into account.

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#373 Oct 7, 2013
Prime wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you really mean misquote? That's what JW'S do!
some of the stuff you say is just too dumb to respond to. What normal bible do you use? LOLOL!
Leslie

United States

#374 Oct 7, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> The one true religion is the one that follows in Jesus' footsteps. Does the WT teach love of all their neighbor? Not when they teach to hate others .
Does the WTS care for the needy, widow and orphns? No not one soup kitchen, no orphanage, no shelter for the homeless.
The WTS is not a Christian religion for they don't follow the teaching of Jesus Christ as they make up their own and say it is from God as well as saying they are needed for salvation instead of Jesus alone. You have been conned by the sly anti Christ with their false teachings and false prophecies.
Curious where you came up with, "they teach to hate others". Please back up your findings, or quit running your fool mouth!
Prime

United States

#375 Oct 7, 2013
Maravilla wrote:
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. Hmm! shhh..the great oz is speaking....
LOL! I believe you meant azzz!
Leslie

United States

#376 Oct 7, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
Let me tell you one of my experiences when I was a xjw, not involved with any religions or spirituality whatsoever.
My daughter had just been born, was just minding my own business when I had a knock at my door. It was a jw man and a woman. Since I had been kicked out of my former congregation I hadn't since had a jw knock on my door....but I was living in a different state at that time.
The man started with his sales line, with the female nodding in lock step behind him. I had the door wide open and my daughter was playing on the floor. I told this man that I was born and raised a jw and knew what he was wanting to sell me so he could just forget about me and keep on going. So this douchbag points to my daughter and tells me that I should know better and I would be responsible for the death of my little baby. I asked him if he was making a threat against my daughter and he said he wasn't making a threat, but I should have known that Jehovah would not allow her to live because I was turning my back on him.
So I questioned him on what I would need to do to make sure my only daughter wasn't killed by Jehovah and the answer was that I needed to accept a bible study by this douchebag and get reinstated and get baptized and raise my daughter to be a jehovahs witness. I told him no thanks and closed the door on him. In the following 4 months I had notes on my door telling me they were still willing to let me study their books with them.
Imagine me...a first time dad, has some guy knocking on my door telling me my daughter is going to die, and Jehovah is going to do it and one of his reps is telling me Jehovah is going to kill my daughter.
Why not tell everyone what you did to be disfellowshipped? Hmmmm... wonder if you'll be honest?
Prime

United States

#377 Oct 7, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
<quoted text>some of the stuff you say is just too dumb to respond to. What normal bible do you use? LOLOL!
You forgot to say blah blah blah hellfire blah blah blah burned alive forever!

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#378 Oct 7, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
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Of couse a meal for the staving is helping them. A home for the orphan is helping them. And most of all jESUS SAID TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO BE HIS FOLLOWERS. Can't you read? We all need to listen to Jesus instead of men, when do you start?
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The inconstancies and contradictions in the Watchtower literature seem almost unbelievable. The double standards of the Watchtower writers seems to be without limits.
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One of the explanations for this is that some Watchtower articles deal with how Jehovah's Witnesses want to be perceived and how they want to be treated by society in general, and the contradictory articles deal with how the "faithful" and "loyal" Witnesses should regard their enemies and outsiders.
Examples of this highly contradictory tradition. In 1995 the June 15, issue of The Watchtower asked the question: "Will Hatred Ever End?" The magazine among other things made this statement:
"It was the oral tradition of the Jews that held that 'hating an enemy' was the right thing to do. Jesus, however, said we must love our enemy, not just our friend. This is difficult but not impossible." (The Watchtower, June 15, 1995, p. 5)
THEN THEY SAY,
"The obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates. Our attitude toward apostates should be that of David, who declared: "Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become to me real enemies." (Psalm 139:21, 22)" (The Watchtower, July 15, 1992, p. 12,19)
WITH A COMPLETE HATRED i DO HATE THEM !
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.As documented the Watchtower Society is indeed "fettered by the prevailing attitude" of Jesus' Jewish contemporaries. They are still "frozen" in the pre-Christian attitude towards "gentiles". They are still adhering to the old Jewish custom:'You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' They leave it up to everyone else to follow the example of Jesus, and expect everyone else to "love" Jehovah's Witnesses
jESUS SAID,
Matthew 5:43-48 KJV
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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If you follow Jesus you do not follow men who teach hate and refuse to care for the needy, as Jesus said to do.
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Jw,s are taught to Love God and his son and every human on this earth, even humans like Osama bin Laden--not to go kill them for their sin but to apply love as Jesus taught and try to help them come to Jesus. So they can get to the Father. But the rest of the world turns their hearts to hatred and throws Jesus teaching of love away. If a fellow man asked a JW for something and the JW had it --they would give it to them--but in this blinded world, those who cannot love and think properly give to charities--whose owners pay themselves massive paychecks to themselves,family and friends----also its fact billions has been stolen of these donations in recent tragedies.- Many children go without because their parents are drunks or drug addicts and giving them $ will not help--teaching them to do the 2 things Jesus said a human must do is what will help. Except few listen to Jesus. You might think a temporary fix is the solution--a JW knows for fact--Gods kingdom is the only solution.
Leslie

United States

#379 Oct 7, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> You sure show the LURKERS and BIBLE STUDIES the difference between a Christian and a JW, as you let out all you hate of others that the WT teaches.
El Cacique obviously isn't a witness. If you, El Cacique claim to be would you please tell me what congregation you belong to. I don't believe w/ your postings that you could possibly be a practicing JW.

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