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Remnant143999

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YKN0T wrote:
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Aneirin isn't a JW but since I am I will answer.
Officially 'NO'
Unofficially 'It Depends'
Voting was made a matter of conscience(MOC)in 1999.
This provision allows JWs to 'vote' on non-neutrality issues, however if a JW was to vote for POTUS then that JW is violating the WTS neutrality stance and thus automatically disassociates by their actions.
The key thing is whether the neutrality-violating voting becomes known, under what circumstances it becomes known and what occurs after it is known.
Once known if the JW repents and humbles themselves to theocratic direction the JW faces anywhere from counsel to DFing dependent on the JC's decision....if the JW isn't repentant then the Elders assert the automatic DA.
Wtbts denies everything you have just stated. It is against Fed law to inflick any kind of harm to any registered voter! Can you find anything in writing from the wtbts that supports your claim? The elders manual is moot on this issue.
Remnant143999

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YKN0T wrote:
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Aneirin isn't a JW but since I am I will answer.
Officially 'NO'
Unofficially 'It Depends'
Voting was made a matter of conscience(MOC)in 1999.
This provision allows JWs to 'vote' on non-neutrality issues, however if a JW was to vote for POTUS then that JW is violating the WTS neutrality stance and thus automatically disassociates by their actions.
The key thing is whether the neutrality-violating voting becomes known, under what circumstances it becomes known and what occurs after it is known.
Once known if the JW repents and humbles themselves to theocratic direction the JW faces anywhere from counsel to DFing dependent on the JC's decision....if the JW isn't repentant then the Elders assert the automatic DA.
Ps. what is ment by violating neutrality? Many jw's work for companies that supply military equipment for the war machine, will the wtbts buy their family food,or pay their bills if they were to quit their job?

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Here is an interesting video that shows a Jehovah's Witness elder lying in a court of law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

And here is an audio of a speech on theocratic warfare by Fred Franz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

In denying the truth of the matter over and over again despite evidence presented, Aneirin is simply doing what theocratic warriors do best!

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

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The sad thing about those who delude themselves into justifying lying, by doing so they turn away from GOD as the story of Adam and Eve illustrates. When we lie to ourselves and our neighbors we cut ourselves off from the GOD that the governing body of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses reject.

These men really are literally, the blind leading the blind!
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Nomi wrote:
Anyone who thinks I had a halloween cat pic...it didn't look anything like that to me. It just looked cute. I don't, and never have been incline to promote any holiday...I just use pics of cats I think are cute, in themselves. However, I have changed it.
I realy like your halloween cat Nomi.Dont feel bad mrs jackson the most well known jw in the world is celebrating halloween.Why not you.Good for you thinking independent of the wt.

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Nov 19, 2012
 
Nomi wrote:
Thanks MM...will do. I love cats so I always look for more.
Also Nomi, have you ever seen the site 'lol cats'. You would like it.
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Mythbusters wrote:
If anyone thinks this is just an orange t-shirt, then they need glasses.
http://georgiascatblog.files.wordpress.com/20...
Why does it bother you so much? It means nothing other then a picture!
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man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Why does it bother you so much? It means nothing other then a picture!
Does it bother you that mrs jackson gets to celebrtae the holidays and jw's are not?
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cult expert wrote:
<quoted text>Does it bother you that mrs jackson gets to celebrtae the holidays and jw's are not?
Talk about double standards...
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cult expert wrote:
<quoted text>Does it bother you that mrs jackson gets to celebrtae the holidays and jw's are not?
No! I don't care.
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cult expert wrote:
<quoted text>Does it bother you that mrs jackson gets to celebrtae the holidays and jw's are not?
I won't mock the gross misspelling.
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Wisconsin Wonderland wrote:
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Talk about double standards...
It's between her and God and no one else.
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man711 wrote:
<quoted text> It's between her and God and no one else.
Then why do JW"S feel the need to always cut down other religions? Is that not between God and them also?

And why then are JW"s always BRAGGING about how they never celebrate holidays, making it EVERYONES BUISNESS?
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YKN0T wrote:
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Not true (at least as far as WTS judicial code is concerned), such an event could be seen as 'celebrating' or endorsing false religion which is considered apostasy by the WTS. If an inactive member is suspected, investigated and found to have been part of this sort of practice it is grounds for DFing.
Now that all said, Nomi removed the avatar and hopefully she will be more discerning in her love of cat pictures.
Elders are NOT spirtual police!

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man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Why does it bother you so much? It means nothing other then a picture!
So, to you, it's ok that a jw has a halloween avatar for a picture? jws are the first to scream "pagan" if any one other than a jw has anything that remotely looks like it is about some holiday.

But this particular poster, who claims to be a tried and blue jw, has a halloween avatar. And not just a halloween avatar, one that she took down before because it was brought to her attention that it promoted halloween, yet, she put it back up. And you don't see an issue with that?

I say turn about is fair play.

She took it down, again, because it was brought to her attention, again, that it is a halloween image.

I cal hypocrisy when I see it.

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I won't mock the gross misspelling.
Should I stop pointing out yours?
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Wisconsin Wonderland wrote:
<quoted text> Then why do JW"S feel the need to always cut down other religions? Is that not between God and them also?
And why then are JW"s always BRAGGING about how they never celebrate holidays, making it EVERYONES BUISNESS?
Thats correct WW,Now he's gonna go after your grammar!!!!

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Mythbusters wrote:
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So, to you, it's ok that a jw has a halloween avatar for a picture? jws are the first to scream "pagan" if any one other than a jw has anything that remotely looks like it is about some holiday.
But this particular poster, who claims to be a tried and blue jw, has a halloween avatar. And not just a halloween avatar, one that she took down before because it was brought to her attention that it promoted halloween, yet, she put it back up. And you don't see an issue with that?
I say turn about is fair play.
She took it down, again, because it was brought to her attention, again, that it is a halloween image.
I cal hypocrisy when I see it.
Don't forget.....it's all on record here....that EE had a conniption fit....nearly required administering smelling salts and oxygen and making SURE that she made a big deal out of it when I posted a very innocuous smiling carved pumpkin at Halloween, LOL!
Remnant143999

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Nov 19, 2012
 
Aneirin wrote:
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Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about. You're just making stuff up.
Does the wtbts disfellowship a brother or sister for voteing for President of the US. of America?
Remnant143999

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man711 wrote:
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Elders are NOT spirtual police!
Then why do they judge, condemn,and pursecute

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