blood fractions

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#21 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy wrote:
did you read the comment??ITS NOT BLOOD
What other biological organism are fractions found in beside BLOOD?

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#22 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy wrote:
i see what your saying about how you need the blood in the first place to get the fraction.. but they take it from their own blood
Where is that sanctioned by JWs?
ohboy

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Jun 27, 2012
sidgi wrote:
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the pie illustration isn't valid. all of the parts of the pie existed separately to begin with. They were put together to make the pie. Blood is blood. It started out as blood. When fractionated it is still blood. Pie started out as something else, entirely. Men make pie. God made blood.
sidgi
well then you're saying that the doctors on that site are wrong.
ohboy

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Jun 27, 2012
MixedMedia wrote:
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That's not the point.
The point is you need blood to get the fractions out. Blood must be donated to get the access to the fractions.
JWs do not give blood.
They use the blood for fractions that someone else kindly donated.
It is not wrong to use blood. the bible says not to eat it. JWs wouldnt donate because they are not guaranteed that their blood wont be given to someone else for tranfusions.
JACE

Clinton, MD

#25 Jun 27, 2012
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
Blood fractions come from blood.
Witnesses are not allowed to give blood.
They want to use the fractions that someone else donated.
hot parts come from stolen cars
jw are not allowed to steal
they just want to used the hot parts

25 baptist will donate blood for a jw child to have an APPROVED FRACTION "A"
25JW will let a baptist child die if he needs blood fraction "A"

this is a fact that when i stand before a congregation of christians to speak about my life exp and how twisted the jw mindset is
nonjw are now equiped with critical thinking questions to ask their coworker, nieghbors and family who are jw
IS THIS FAIR????????
ohboy

Philadelphia, PA

#26 Jun 27, 2012
the bible doesnt say anything about using blood, it just says not to eat it.
SOS

Yonkers, NY

#27 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not wrong to use blood. the bible says not to eat it. JWs wouldnt donate because they are not guaranteed that their blood wont be given to someone else for tranfusions.
Do you REALIZE WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS LIKE A CATCH-22,

SO IF A JW DONATES BLOOD IT MAY GET USED FOR A TRANSFUSION OR BLOOD FRACTIONS,
BUT
IF THEY DO NOT DONATE BLOOD THEY ARE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES BY USING OTHERS DONATED BLOOD FOR THE FRACTIONS THAT THEY NEED.

THERE IS NO LOOPHOLES HERE,

IT'S PURE HYPOCRISY.
ohboy

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Jun 27, 2012
remnant143999 wrote:
Just follow Aneririn's example,never get baptised as a jw ,and you are free from any Bilble laws.
Well I choose not to be free from bible laws because id rather live a live of morals, standards, and righteousness.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#29 Jun 27, 2012
JACE wrote:
<quoted text>hot parts come from stolen cars
jw are not allowed to steal
they just want to used the hot parts

25 baptist will donate blood for a jw child to have an APPROVED FRACTION "A"
25JW will let a baptist child die if he needs blood fraction "A"

this is a fact that when i stand before a congregation of christians to speak about my life exp and how twisted the jw mindset is
nonjw are now equiped with critical thinking questions to ask their coworker, nieghbors and family who are jw
IS THIS FAIR????????
Yes they would let either child die.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#30 Jun 27, 2012
intelligence isn't a requirement to be a Jehovah's witness.

sidgi
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#31 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy, you have some unfinished business:

ohboy wrote:
i see what your saying about how you need the blood in the first place to get the fraction.. but they take it from their own blood

WHO takes WHAT from their own blood?
jace

Clinton, MD

#32 Jun 27, 2012
It is at this point the wheels start to fall off the jw theological teaching on blood fractions

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"And people who have lost family members because blood fractions weren't acceptable before but now they are"

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Acceptable to Who?? God and his Divine word, or the WT Editorial staff of Writers and their published works

the two are not the same

see the WT editorial staff presented these as Scripturally forbidden fractions to millions of jw who in turn took them to the homes of Billons as THE TRUTH OF GODS WORD

So the WT editorial staff of writers literally created SINS out of thin air

according to the wt editorial staff if one were to have taken these forbidden fractions they would be sinning, this was taught to billions via their published works

they backed this up by enforcing excommunication and for what?? VIOLATING THE WORD OF GOD or violating the views of the WT editorial staff

see this is why this is such a serious issue

when a group of Writers for a any journal religious not-- step onto the world scene an declare course of action "A" is a sin in the sight of God the Almighty and when in fact IT IS NOT

you have a problem on your hand

the post attempts to used the follow illustration

"...well thats like saying doctors are to blame for not finding out information about certain health treatments sooner."

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no it is not like doctors, in my exp i have neer seen any doctor attribute his medical findings to being SPIRIT DIRECTED BY GOD

keep in mind this is the claim of the WT Editorial staff and what they publish

i have not seen a medical journal make such a claim

"As new information is found and new treatments are researched, then policies may need to be updated and changed."

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Calling ones theological teachings "policies that need to be updated" it its car insurance is very insulting to folks who were told their lost of life of Loved ones was due to BEING OBEDIENT TO THE WORD OF GOD-

not an editorial staff of writers merely offering opinions and views on matters

see the jw is literally unable to separate what the Bible teaches with what the WT editorial staff of writers teach

the fordden fractions teachings WERE NEVER A SIN AGAINST GOD as claimed by the Wt editorialstaff

it was never wrong to have taken them, yet the wt editorial staff were DOA the day they published their information on such fractions

"Its absurd to blame the deaths of those family members on Jehovahs witnesses because of the fact that they didn't know the information sooner."

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This statement above is profound for it clearly shows the differences between the teachings of God the Almighty and his divine word the Bible -which never resulted in the death of folks for following it ONLY TO BE TOLD the information was Wrong

UNLIKE THE WT editorial staffs published works which IF FOLLOWED - REJECTION OF FRACTIONS CONSIDERED FORBIDEN ONE COULD DIE
only to be told 2 weeeks later "MY BAD, THE INFOR WE thought was asin REALY AIN'T A SIN LIKE WE SAID

THIS is why one don't want to confuse a teaching of THE BIBLE WITH A TEACHING OF MERE MEN
dr of blood

Chicago, IL

#33 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not wrong to use blood. the bible says not to eat it. JWs wouldnt donate because they are not guaranteed that their blood wont be given to someone else for tranfusions.
UUMM Einstein transfusion and eating are two different animals my friend. That law was put into place so the peopel wouldnt get sick eating the bacteria ridden meat from the sacrificed animals.
jace

Clinton, MD

#34 Jun 27, 2012
" As new information is found and new treatments are researched"

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Consider the following implications and ramifications of jw theology

Teachings of God the Aighty as to whether something is a Sin or No-- yes ones very salvation is on the line, according to JW ----

are dependent upon the medical research of worldly college graduates from Worldy colleges?

When blood fraction "A" is a sin to take on monday
WHAT INFORMATION FROM WORLDLY DOCTORS converted a sin against God to a nonsin on WEd

the jw literal create teachings and then attempt to find scripture to suppport it

and over and over we see after creating a theologicl teaching due to no support THE WHEELS FALL OFF AFTERWHILE

WE HAVE SEEN this with so many teachings of jw that are NOW THROWN ON THE TRASH HEAP OF "TRIED BUT FAILED TEACHINGS"
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#35 Jun 27, 2012
It appears that ohboy has left the building.
comeuppance

Bonnots Mill, MO

#36 Jun 27, 2012
Transfusions and eating blood are very much NOT the same thing. Transfusions are administered into the blood vessels, and if a patient cannot eat, nutrition is put into the digestive tract via a feeding tube.
I personally, do not want blood put into my body from another. But I would have no problem having my own blood put into me. It is done every day with dialysis patients, which I see a good many of. Without this process of filtering, they would die within three days, a terrible death.
Life is a gift and considered sacred to Jehovah. I don't think that he considers us to be giving him a gift when we squander the gift of life that he gave us. This is purely my opinion, and I don't expect others to necessarily agree or live by MY opinion. Each has to live with their own conscience.
Teleologist

Glendale, AZ

#37 Jun 27, 2012
ohboy wrote:
the bible doesn't say anything about using blood, it just says not to eat it.
Then the Bible doesn't forbid blood transfusions because transfusing blood is not equivalent to eating it.

Regarding blood fractions. If it is okay for JW's to take blood fractions because they are parts of blood rather than blood itself then the same argument can be applied to the four primary components of blood. Each of the four primary components of blood are not individually blood. That is why they are called components of blood instead of blood itself.
ohboy

Philadelphia, PA

#38 Jun 27, 2012
dr of blood wrote:
<quoted text> UUMM Einstein transfusion and eating are two different animals my friend. That law was put into place so the peopel wouldnt get sick eating the bacteria ridden meat from the sacrificed animals.
drinking alcohol and injecting it into your veins is the same thing.
Teleologist

Glendale, AZ

#39 Jun 28, 2012
ohboy wrote:
drinking alcohol and injecting it into your veins is the same thing.
This comparison is misleading because injected alcohol can in fact be used by the body as food, however, to receive a nutritional benefit from blood, you would have to eat and digest it so that it could be broken down and used as food. No nutritional benefit accrues from a blood transfusion. Consider two patients who are unable to eat, and are admitted to a hospital. One is given blood transfusions and the other intravenous feedings of dextrose, which one is receiving nourishment and will live? Clearly, doctors do not prescribe blood transfusions to treat malnutrition, but rather to replace something your body has lost, usually the red cells needed to transport oxygen and keep you alive.
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#40 Jun 28, 2012
ohboy wrote:
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drinking alcohol and injecting it into your veins is the same thing.
Have you been studying with a Jehovah's Witness?

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