Russia bans JW.org
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Ex -JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#1 Jan 22, 2014
Ex -JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#2 Jan 22, 2014
Russia threatens ban of JW.org –
Posted on January 22, 2014

A Russian court has ruled that JW.org should be banned throughout the Federation
JW.org has issued a press release warning that it is due to be banned in Russia if Watchtower is unsuccessful in appealing a Russian court’s decision against the website.

According to the report, the decision dates back to August 7, 2013 when the Tsentralniy District Court (100 miles north of Moscow) ruled that the website should be banned throughout the Russian Federation.

An appeal against this decision is scheduled for today, January 22, 2014. If Watchtower fails, promoting their website will become a criminal act in the country.

JW.org is already banned in mainland China.

***UPDATE – since this article was published, JWsurvey has learned that the ban was overturned on appeal. Click here for more details (Russian news article).***

The news comes only days after a Russian newspaper reported that a court in the country had declared several Watchtower brochures “extremist.”

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/russia-threat...
Supremeliberal

Lufkin, TX

#3 Jan 22, 2014
Why would Russia want to ban Jehovah Wtness ,when they have so many Russsian agent masqurading as Jehovah Witness,no one would ever suspect a Jehovah Witness as being a Russian spy ,
Ex -JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#4 Jan 22, 2014
MOSCOW, January 13 (RIA Novosti)– A Russian court has declared brochures produced by the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be extremist, the Prosecutor General’s Office said Monday.
The court in the southern city of Kurgan ruled that four pamphlets published by the Christian evangelical sect were discriminatory against people who did not belong to the organization.
The booklets were titled “How to Achieve Happiness in Life,”“What Can People Hope For?”“How to Develop a Close Relationship With God,” and “What You Need to Know About God and His Meaning.”
The prosecutor’s office said that analyses by linguistic experts had concluded that the brochures contained propaganda that promoted the superiority of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and denigrated other faiths as false.
Jehovah’s Witnesses claims more than 7 million followers worldwide, including more than 130,000 in Russia. The religious group frequently faces pressure from Russian authorities for its beliefs and has been banned in a number of regions, as well as in some former Soviet republics.
A Moscow court ordered the dissolution of the local branch of the Jehovah’s Witnesses in 2004 and banned its activities amid allegations that the community was brainwashing children and breaking up families through its teachings.
The European Court of Human Rights ruled that the decision was unlawful in 2010 and ordered Russia to pay 70,000 euro ($95,000) in damages.
Russian courts declared numerous publications by Jehovah’s Witnesses to be extremist in 2009.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#5 Jan 22, 2014
Commenting on the website, Yekaterina Elbakyan, Doctor of Philosophy and expert in religious studies who serves as a professor at the Academy of Labor and Social Relations in Moscow, says that jw.org is “a gift for anybody who is engaged in religious research. It provides comprehensive and understandable material. Significant spiritual and moral issues are presented in a simple way. When you use the website, you feel like you are being openly welcomed into the home of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

http://jw.org
Supremeliberal

Lufkin, TX

#6 Jan 22, 2014
The Watchtower always condemn secular agencies ,but always run to the European Courts to validate thier existence , they also ban some gay literature ,but international gay group use thier power of influence getting Russia to not to be so harsh ,it seem like gays have more political clouts than the GovernBody ,how ironic
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#7 Jan 22, 2014
Aneirin wrote:
Commenting on the website, Yekaterina Elbakyan, Doctor of Philosophy and expert in religious studies who serves as a professor at the Academy of Labor and Social Relations in Moscow, says that jw.org is “a gift for anybody who is engaged in religious research. It provides comprehensive and understandable material. Significant spiritual and moral issues are presented in a simple way. When you use the website, you feel like you are being openly welcomed into the home of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
http://jw.org
"Significant spiritual and moral issues are presented in a simple way....”

I agree.
Supremeliberal

Lufkin, TX

#8 Jan 22, 2014
Anerin ,why do the Watchtower regular quote Apostate ,that what they think the Professor is to the Watchtower ,as long as she put in a good world for the boys in Brooklyn ,thier is nothing wrong with her, Watchtower research is sophmoric at best , thier is nothing would entertain thier literature too critical thought by it own members,they would never invite this lady too a meeting of significant
jace

Clinton, MD

#9 Jan 22, 2014
Not a good move from Russia
From the Olympics to jw

Those guys are off the chain
Joe

Summerville, SC

#10 Jan 22, 2014
I find it funny that anyone has an issue with a jw... so they believe in god. .. so what. ... they try to be moral. so what.... they knock on doors. ..omg...they are so horrible... leave them alone. . The dont start wars or known as murderous people. . If everyone puts up with the gays surely jw. Are not bad
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#11 Jan 22, 2014
Joe wrote:
I find it funny that anyone has an issue with a jw... so they believe in god... so what.... they try to be moral. so what.... they knock on doors...omg...they are so horrible... leave them alone.. The dont start wars or known as murderous people.. If everyone puts up with the gays surely jw. Are not bad
I agree.

If the Watchtower's new system was real the onkly difference between JW's and Russia would be prison in Russia for disagreeing with the leaders and disagreeing with the JW leaders you don't have to go to prison.

You get to watch your own family, including your sweet 5 year old niece throw big rocks at you and scream, "We love you but Jehovah says we have to keep the congregation clean and your dissident attitude can't be tolerated so Jehovah says that YOU HAVE TO DIE."

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#12 Jan 22, 2014
I think this is great.
There are four threads on this board alone about this and each thread mentions the website.

What a wonderful way of spreading news about the URL.

Keep it up folks!!!
Ex-JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#13 Jan 22, 2014
Aneirin wrote:
Commenting on the website, Yekaterina Elbakyan, Doctor of Philosophy and expert in religious studies who serves as a professor at the Academy of Labor and Social Relations in Moscow, says that jw.org is “a gift for anybody who is engaged in religious research. It provides comprehensive and understandable material. Significant spiritual and moral issues are presented in a simple way. When you use the website, you feel like you are being openly welcomed into the home of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
http://jw.org
And so, it would seem, a neutral academic and expert on religion has given JW.org her glowing endorsement. But wait, who is Yekaterina Elbakyan? And what other organizations has she been willing to endorse in the recent past?

After a brief search on Google, we find the same “academic” lavishing similar praise on the Church of Scientology, as quoted in the book Ordinary Anti-Cultism by Sergey Ivanenko (Ivanenko being another Russian “scholar” with an inexplicable urge to support cults in Russia for motives best known to himself).

And so, in trying to position itself as a legitimate religion worthy of respect, it seems Watchtower is all too willing to run under the same protective umbrella as the Church of Scientology with its blatant quackery and charlatanry.

Whether Dr Elbakyan is motivated by truth or her bank balance in defending cults like Watchtower and Scientology seemingly on demand is a question best answered by her (or her accountant), but she is clearly not an authority to be trusted when appraising the merits of a religion if she is so unscrupulous in throwing around her endorsements.

A “trusted information source?”

As expected, the JW.org press release also features endorsements from Watchtower representatives, who can hardly be considered unbiased.
JW-CO

Denver, CO

#14 Jan 22, 2014
Over the last few days I've read some pretty ridiculous things about JW's online as it pertains to this story as well as some other recent ones. As a JW, I find it laughable that so much is made over the importance placed on the organization and those in the Gov Body or Elders in a congregation. With that, the idea that we as JW's promote the breakup of families and society for that matter is preposterous.

As a JW and Christian, my obligation is to Jehovah, following the example as set forth by his son Jesus Christ. Like Jesus we promote unity in the congregation as well peace in society which we live. We abide by the laws governing the perspective lands which we live. In fact, obeying these laws of the land are a requirement for those taking the lead in the Christian congregations. We engage in the ministry offering hope via literature that is bible based. Often the focus is on improving family life and marriage, helping those lowly ones in need, simplifying life so as to not be caught up in undue anxieties. All of which lend to a more solid stable family and ultimately citizen, no matter where we live.

I've certainly made my decision based on study and experience. No man or men have brainwashed me into this belief. As a JW, it not always an easy life to follow but I do it willingly, sometimes praying for a willing heart. I've not always been an active JW, I had lived as an inactive one for many years and never faced any tactics such as smearing of my name or shunning. In fact, it was the warm and kind way in which family, friends and Elders assisted that is the reason why I am actively serving today.

No doubt there have been many instances of ones who were active witnesses who were stumbled. I was definitely in that place in my life, I was very much hurt by someone in the congregation. Bottom line is we all have free will, down to those who completely disagree with the JW faith. If any decide this is not the life for them, that is your choice. My choice is to avoid those who harbor resentment towards JW's as it doesn't help me personally and is not up building. Conversely, I see no difference with those who choose to stay away from Christian meetings.

All that said, why do those who choose a life away from the JW's always seem to be so spiteful and hateful about it? Of what benefit is it to rally with others who feel the same about the very organization they have left? If that decision has been made, move on and spend your time and energies on something more productive and worth your time instead of bashing what you disagree with. Seems pointless to me.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15 Jan 22, 2014
Ex-JW wrote:
<quoted text>
And so, it would seem, a neutral academic and expert on religion has given JW.org her glowing endorsement. But wait, who is Yekaterina Elbakyan? And what other organizations has she been willing to endorse in the recent past?
After a brief search on Google, we find the same “academic” lavishing similar praise on the Church of Scientology, as quoted in the book Ordinary Anti-Cultism by Sergey Ivanenko (Ivanenko being another Russian “scholar” with an inexplicable urge to support cults in Russia for motives best known to himself).
And so, in trying to position itself as a legitimate religion worthy of respect, it seems Watchtower is all too willing to run under the same protective umbrella as the Church of Scientology with its blatant quackery and charlatanry.
Whether Dr Elbakyan is motivated by truth or her bank balance in defending cults like Watchtower and Scientology seemingly on demand is a question best answered by her (or her accountant), but she is clearly not an authority to be trusted when appraising the merits of a religion if she is so unscrupulous in throwing around her endorsements.
A “trusted information source?”
As expected, the JW.org press release also features endorsements from Watchtower representatives, who can hardly be considered unbiased.
I am shocked.
I thought that lots of degrees and schooling impressed apostates:

Ekaterina Elbakyan - Russia Professor of Sociology and Management of Social Processes, Moscow Academy of Labor and Social Relations
Elbakyan Ekaterina - Doctor of Philosophy (1997), Senior Research Fellow (1999), a specialist in the field of religious studies, philosophy and sociology of religion, professor of sociology and management of social processes at the Academy of Labour and Social Affairs, Head of the Center for Religious Studies "ReligioPolis", the author of 452 scientific works published in Russia and abroad, including six books, a member of the editorial boards of several scientific publications on theological issues, executive secretary of the editorial board of scientific-theoretical journal "Religion. She graduated from the Philosophy Faculty of Moscow State University, Department of Philosophy of Religion and Religious Studies (1985), and completed postgraduate studies at the same institution (1989). From 1992 to 2002 she worked at the research center "Religion in Contemporary Society" Russian Independent Institute for Social and National Problems. Currently professor of sociology and management of social processes of the Academy of Labour and Social Affairs (Moscow)
Dr. Elbakyan is a professor at the State University of Labor and Social Relations. She is the director of Religiopolis Center, a religious studies research center. She is also a member of the European Association for Religious Studies. Dr. Elbakyan's studies center on philosophy and sociology of religion. She has also studied religion and economics, and religious humanitarian activity. Dr. Elbakyan received a Ph.D. from Moscow State University. She has published extensively on topics dealing with religion and philosophy in Russia. She has authored or co-authored more than 200 works. Dr. Elbakyan serves on the editorial board of a scholarly journal on the topic of religious studies.
Professor William Vladimirovich Schmidt,...
www.iclrs.org [cached]
Professor William Vladimirovich Schmidt, John the Apostle Orthodox Institute, Russian Orthodox University, and Ekaterina Elbakyan, Professor of Sociology and Management of Social Processes, Moscow Academy of Labor and Social Relations, presented during the session focusing on Russia about the relationship between the individual and religion, as well as the legal practice on matter related to religious freedom.

Since: Aug 10

Chillicothe, MO

#16 Jan 22, 2014
Ex-JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#17 Jan 22, 2014
florida native wrote:
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I am shocked.
I thought that lots of degrees and schooling impressed apostates:
Ekaterina Elbakyan - Russia Professor of Sociology and Management of Social Processes, Moscow Academy of Labor and Social Relations
Elbakyan Ekaterina - Doctor of Philosophy (1997), Senior Research Fellow (1999), a specialist in the field of religious studies, philosophy and sociology of religion, professor of sociology and management of social processes at the Academy of Labour and Social Affairs, Head of the Center for Religious Studies "ReligioPolis", the author of 452 scientific works published in Russia and abroad, including six books, a member of the editorial boards of several scientific publications on theological issues, executive secretary of the editorial board of scientific-theoretical journal "Religion. She graduated from the Philosophy Faculty of Moscow State University, Department of Philosophy of Religion and Religious Studies (1985), and completed postgraduate studies at the same institution (1989). From 1992 to 2002 she worked at the research center "Religion in Contemporary Society" Russian Independent Institute for Social and National Problems. Currently professor of sociology and management of social processes of the Academy of Labour and Social Affairs (Moscow)
Dr. Elbakyan is a professor at the State University of Labor and Social Relations. She is the director of Religiopolis Center, a religious studies research center. She is also a member of the European Association for Religious Studies. Dr. Elbakyan's studies center on philosophy and sociology of religion. She has also studied religion and economics, and religious humanitarian activity. Dr. Elbakyan received a Ph.D. from Moscow State University. She has published extensively on topics dealing with religion and philosophy in Russia. She has authored or co-authored more than 200 works. Dr. Elbakyan serves on the editorial board of a scholarly journal on the topic of religious studies.
Professor William Vladimirovich Schmidt,...
www.iclrs.org [cached]
Professor William Vladimirovich Schmidt, John the Apostle Orthodox Institute, Russian Orthodox University, and Ekaterina Elbakyan, Professor of Sociology and Management of Social Processes, Moscow Academy of Labor and Social Relations, presented during the session focusing on Russia about the relationship between the individual and religion, as well as the legal practice on matter related to religious freedom.
Her achedemics is not the issue, it's her list of endorsements which includes th church of Scientology.

Regards
the apostate your MOM ordered you not to talk to ;)
Ex-JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#18 Jan 22, 2014
Joe wrote:
I find it funny that anyone has an issue with a jw... so they believe in god... so what.... they try to be moral. so what.... they knock on doors...omg...they are so horrible... leave them alone.. The dont start wars or known as murderous people.. If everyone puts up with the gays surely jw. Are not bad
JWs are entitled to their civil rights and the right to practice their religion and preach their 1914 gospel, however they deny the same equal right to anyone who leaves their organisation and slander fellow believers and all Christians outside of their religion as apostate and false Christians....double standard ????

They are reaping the whirl wind of self righteousness and a judgmental attitude.
The UK government is also looking into the WBTS statements calling those who leave as mentally diseased and apostate. Slander is not Godly and liable.

The WBTS will spin this as part of the "Assyrian" persecution, however, they are reaping their slanderous attacks on those who leave and all Christians that do NOT support their FDS. Aka mother.

Shalom :)

They

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#19 Jan 22, 2014
Ex-JW wrote:
<quoted text>
JWs are entitled to their civil rights and the right to practice their religion and preach their 1914 gospel, however they deny the same equal right to anyone who leaves their organisation and slander fellow believers and all Christians outside of their religion as apostate and false Christians....double standard ????
They are reaping the whirl wind of self righteousness and a judgmental attitude.
The UK government is also looking into the WBTS statements calling those who leave as mentally diseased and apostate. Slander is not Godly and liable.
The WBTS will spin this as part of the "Assyrian" persecution, however, they are reaping their slanderous attacks on those who leave and all Christians that do NOT support their FDS. Aka mother.
Shalom :)
They
very good point. I think the GB should personally go to Russia and set the example, get out on the streets and preach, we must obey God as ruler rather than man. And after all are not the anointed suppose to be taking the lead?
Ex-JW

Saint Augustine, FL

#20 Jan 22, 2014
array wrote:
<quoted text>very good point. I think the GB should personally go to Russia and set the example, get out on the streets and preach, we must obey God as ruler rather than man. And after all are not the anointed suppose to be taking the lead?
LOL ..that would never happen :)

In fact, it seems in their latest "Assyrian" attack, WT study on Sunday, they are leaving the authority with the local elders as they run to their bunkers. Looks like they are passing the "baby" off as they run away like the false shepherd. Will they die like the good shepherd to save the sheep ? We will see!

Thank you lord Jesus that you died for your sheep and brought us into the righteousness of Father.

Shalom brother :)

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