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“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#1 Dec 26, 2012
what must i do to be saved...
and
then can i know for sure today?
will

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#2 Dec 27, 2012
ihveit wrote:
what must i do to be saved...
and
then can i know for sure today?
will
there are no guarantees.

Zephaniah 2:3

New International Version (NIV)

3 Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land,
you who do what he commands.
Seek righteousness, seek humility;
perhaps you will be sheltered
on the day of the Lord’s anger.

Proverbs 16:2

New International Version (NIV)

2 All a person’s ways seem pure to them,
but motives are weighed by the Lord.

Proverbs 21:2

New International Version (NIV)

2 A person may think their own ways are right,
but the Lord weighs the heart.

Proverbs 24:11-12

New International Version (NIV)

11 Rescue those being led away to death;
hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say,“But we knew nothing about this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?

sidgi

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#3 Dec 27, 2012
sidgi wrote:
<quoted text>
there are no guarantees.
Zephaniah 2:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land,
you who do what he commands.
Seek righteousness, seek humility;
perhaps you will be sheltered
on the day of the Lord’s anger.
Proverbs 16:2
New International Version (NIV)
2 All a person’s ways seem pure to them,
but motives are weighed by the Lord.
Proverbs 21:2
New International Version (NIV)
2 A person may think their own ways are right,
but the Lord weighs the heart.
Proverbs 24:11-12
New International Version (NIV)
11 Rescue those being led away to death;
hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say,“But we knew nothing about this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
sidgi
ihv first if you are a jw YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED of yourself...quoting from another bible when you are supposed to have the most accurate one to date..

next we are no longer under the law and if you read the OT you would see that..

we are no longer under the law.. but under grace..

and finally didnt john tell us THAT WE CAN KNOW if we have eternal life? sure he did...

so please tell me how i can KNOW that i have this eternal life or call john a liar/

maybe this verse was spurious? nope i think its in teh NWMT .
will
will

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#4 Dec 27, 2012
ihveit wrote:
what must i do to be saved...
and
then can i know for sure today?
will
ihv thank you for the vote of confidence with the light bulb to whoever did this..

and so far no real answer to my two simple questions.. JWS WILL NOT DISCUSS THIS..
will

Since: Dec 12

Thorne Bay, AK

#5 Dec 27, 2012
It's obvious Will, John was just kidding.
Flame

Germantown, MD

#6 Dec 27, 2012
ihveit wrote:
what must i do to be saved...
and
then can i know for sure today?
will
Stop listening and following apostates. They are up to no good.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#7 Dec 27, 2012
Flame wrote:
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Stop listening and following apostates. They are up to no good.
We did that.

That's why we are no longer Jehovah's Witnesses.
bystander no more

Elk Grove, CA

#8 Dec 27, 2012
ihveit wrote:
what must i do to be saved...
and
then can i know for sure today?
will
Jehovah will be answering your questions soon, but you're not going to like the answers.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#9 Dec 27, 2012
bystander no more wrote:
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Jehovah will be answering your questions soon, but you're not going to like the answers.
Aren't you just another JWwannabe fence sitter who has no clue how a person is saved?

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#10 Dec 27, 2012
ihveit wrote:
<quoted text>
ihv first if you are a jw YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED of yourself...quoting from another bible when you are supposed to have the most accurate one to date..
next we are no longer under the law and if you read the OT you would see that..
we are no longer under the law.. but under grace..
and finally didnt john tell us THAT WE CAN KNOW if we have eternal life? sure he did...
so please tell me how i can KNOW that i have this eternal life or call john a liar/
maybe this verse was spurious? nope i think its in teh NWMT .
will
will
I gave you God's words. If you don't wish to respect them that is up to you. I grabbed a bible version that I figured you wouldn't argue with. The NWT says pretty much the same, if you're interested. But then I guess you're not, because you don't respect what the OT has to say, evidently. It all went by the wayside, because of grace. And what Paul said about it has no value to you........

16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

I don't know if you've thought about it, but the OT was the only thing considered scripture, in Paul's day. I won't bother getting into the fact that none of the verses I posted were part of the law.

sidgi
Flame

Germantown, MD

#11 Dec 27, 2012
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
We did that.
That's why we are no longer Jehovah's Witnesses.
We all know why you are no longer a JWs. LOL
bystander no more

Elk Grove, CA

#12 Dec 27, 2012
UNchained wrote:
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Aren't you just another JWwannabe fence sitter who has no clue how a person is saved?
Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.

Acts 2:21
Romans 10:13

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#13 Dec 27, 2012
bystander no more wrote:
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Jehovah will be answering your questions soon, but you're not going to like the answers.
ihv sorry but i already know the answer.. i asked JESUS in prayer to forgive my sins.. HE DID.. he paid the price.. i got this gift FREE.. i didnt have to sell one magazine... or pass out one tract..

i know whom i have believed..<<<< thats in the bible ..

and yes i still do sin on occassion but i DONT PRACTICE SIN like jws are taught about us..

but now i have a paraclete.. he is there to protect me and help me along

BESIDES HE ISNT FINISHED WITH ME YET he is still working on me ..
will

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#14 Dec 27, 2012
bystander no more wrote:
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Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.
Acts 2:21
Romans 10:13
ihv thats a false interpretation.. the verse reads lord..

SO WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED..

AND according to the bible there is ONLY ONE LORD.. read it

as to rom 10:13 the society cant make up their mind how to translate lord HMNMMMMM
will
will

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#15 Dec 27, 2012
sidgi wrote:
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I gave you God's words. If you don't wish to respect them that is up to you. I grabbed a bible version that I figured you wouldn't argue with. The NWT says pretty much the same, if you're interested. But then I guess you're not, because you don't respect what the OT has to say, evidently. It all went by the wayside, because of grace. And what Paul said about it has no value to you........
ihv actually i do respect the OT but i dont live in it.. you see god tried kings and organizations and even prophets and priests.. nothing worked.. so he sent his son AND WE KILLED HIM.. but he paid the price for my sins as well as yours..

the OT was a teacher. today the holy spirit teaches.. not false prophets.. not decieved people... AGAIN I KNOW WHO I BELIEVED..
SO
are you saved? and do you know it? or was john just joshing us?
will
16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
I don't know if you've thought about it, but the OT was the only thing considered scripture, in Paul's day. I won't bother getting into the fact that none of the verses I posted were part of the law.
sidgi
IHV EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. as to the ot it is a tool to help us to reveal who GOD IS.. its also a book of prophecy to tell us what was coming and what is coming..

BUT apart from the NT one cannot understand the full meaning of it... and the society thrives on this by misleading its members..

JESUS HIMSELF said you MUST BE BORN AGAIN

the socity led by satan ohhh noooo thats not for you...
so can you prove this? can you honestly say i am not born again?
will
sick of the cult

Marlinton, WV

#16 Dec 27, 2012
sidgi wrote:
<quoted text>
there are no guarantees.
Zephaniah 2:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land,
you who do what he commands.
Seek righteousness, seek humility;
perhaps you will be sheltered
on the day of the Lord’s
When was it this was the yearly theme of the WTBTs? They had it hanging on a banner in the front of the Kh just to scare us all into thinking that we could do all we could in the fs and still not find God's favor for they served a god who always wanted more.
If you read the verse in context it is the prophet encouraging the nation of Israel to gather to the Lord in repentance and perhaps, like in the case of Nineveh, Hezekiah, and others, they may have been spared a national calamity of judgment. The WT twists it to this day to convince JWs there salvation is conditional upon their relationship with the publishing cult and hours in the fs.
Even the "endure to the end to be saved" scripture is twisted to make it apply to today's jws, when Jesus was clearly talking about the ones who would endure the end of Jerusalem by the Romans. JWs if you accept Christ as your one adn only savior John 14:4-6 he will finally give you that peace of mind and heart that you are saved today and tomorrow- for his blood is powerful enough to save without your works; only your faith. Imagine feeling saved, worthwhile, and guilt free. Not under the gun to perform like a Sea World whale to earn your daily fish.
sick of the cult

Marlinton, WV

#17 Dec 27, 2012
1 John 5:11-13 NKJV

11 And this is the testimony: God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

We see here the basic reason the JWs do not feel saved, and are taught that their salvation is a future event conditioned upon their performance. They do not have the Christ of the Bible. They will not accept his position as Lord, his position as God the Son, his position as Emmanuel-God with us.They will not accept his finished work on Calvary as being sufficient. Their theology is Jesus is just another creation, Michael the archangel, etc.

Yet John, one of the inner three of Jesus' disciples, writes that Christians may KNOW they have eternal life. They don't have to hope or guess- they KNOW. JWs on this board would it not be great to KNOW you have eternal life, know that you have found God's favor through Christ? That no organization is going to hound you into more performance all the while telling you salvation is a POSSIBILITY in the future? Find Christ and find freedom and joy-find SALVATION

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#18 Dec 27, 2012
sick of the cult wrote:
1 John 5:11-13 NKJV
11 And this is the testimony: God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
We see here the basic reason the JWs do not feel saved, and are taught that their salvation is a future event conditioned upon their performance. They do not have the Christ of the Bible. They will not accept his position as Lord, his position as God the Son, his position as Emmanuel-God with us.They will not accept his finished work on Calvary as being sufficient. Their theology is Jesus is just another creation, Michael the archangel, etc.
Yet John, one of the inner three of Jesus' disciples, writes that Christians may KNOW they have eternal life. They don't have to hope or guess- they KNOW. JWs on this board would it not be great to KNOW you have eternal life, know that you have found God's favor through Christ? That no organization is going to hound you into more performance all the while telling you salvation is a POSSIBILITY in the future? Find Christ and find freedom and joy-find SALVATION
ihv EXCELLENT.. if jws only realized that its not about knowing about JESUS or THE FATHER.. but its actually KNOWING HIM

KNOWLEDGE WILL NEVER SAVE ANYONE
WILL

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#19 Dec 28, 2012
I believe that all of you are just like the WTBTS. It isn't God's word that you value, but what you can make of it.

sidgi

“email at [email protected]

Since: Dec 07

central louisiana

#20 Dec 28, 2012
sidgi wrote:
I believe that all of you are just like the WTBTS. It isn't God's word that you value, but what you can make of it.
sidgi
ihv well lets see now.. i have two choices.. either take the word of men who have proven again and again they are wrong, or i can read the bible alone and draw my own conclusions...

when i post here i try my best to show what the bible teaches and what lies and deciet the jws are taught.. i also do that with other cults as well...

now whom do you trust? if you dont trust your own understanding of the bible you are forced to depend on someone else.. and when one does that they put their eternal life at stake...

sorry but i am willing to take my chances with the bible apart from what different religions teach..
will

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