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What if Jehovah’s Witnesses are right about Armageddon, after all?

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Blaise

East Orange, NJ

#1 Dec 3, 2010
“I’m still one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have many doubts and questions as to whether or not the Watchtower Organization is really ‘The Truth.’ I’m so confused, and I feel like I just want to walk away, but what keeps me here is the fear that Armageddon will come. I don’t want to be destroyed! I want to be on Jehovah’s side, but I’m so afraid. What if Jehovah’s Witnesses are right about Armageddon, after all? If I leave will I be destroyed by Jehovah FOREVER? I don’t want to die! I just don’t know what to do… I feel so trapped!”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#2 Dec 3, 2010
Fear is not a good foundation on which to base worship. It creates subconscious resentment which surfaces in diverse ways and ultimately leads to full rebellion against a God which is perceived as a bully.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#3 Dec 4, 2010
Fear based religions are a real problem for the mental health of the whole planet!

Mother's murdering their children to protect them from eternal hell should they sin as they grow up, Fathers beating children to death to drive out demons, parents disowning children for taking court ordered blood transfusions!

Jesus saw how horrible the situation was with the many fear based religions in his day used by monarchs to control their subjects. He provided a very simple solution for which he was murdered by the Romans who burned everything they could find that would help people to understand his wonderful truth.

Once they had murdered Jesus they replaced his simple message of unconditional LOVE with the same old volcano god nonsense with the addition of the Mithra myth used to transform a simply murder into a god ordained human sacrifice for our sins which is a common theme in many pagan myths such as Mithra, Horus, and others that have existed for centuries prior to the formation of orthodox Christianity by the Romans. The book of Revelation was added in the 500s while at the same time the teaching of reincarnation was branded a heretical teaching. With the addition of the book of Revelation to the Roman canon over the objection of the pope by the Roman emperor it was now possible to teach of apocalypse and eternal torture to ensure the obedience of the common people.(The word Armageddon only occurs one time in this one book in the whole canon of scriptures defined by the Romans!)

Fortunately today it is no longer possible for the Roman hoax to be maintained. With the surfacing of many scriptures that the Romans tried to destroy to protect their empire from the threat of true Christianity we are unraveling the evil hoax perpetrated by the Romans on humanity to protect their oppressive military empire.

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
aadriver

Sandy, UK

#4 Dec 4, 2010
Blaise
Once you start questioning what you have always thought as true it is amazing how clear things become.
Like most JWs I used to pounce on anything in the news that seemed to justify us calling our time the last days.

Since leaving it is as if a veil has been lifted off me.
We are actually living in the best time of human history.

People are living longer, are much healthier than years ago, we can travel the world (if we save up),we are giving billions of dollers to those in need every year and it is really making a difference.

Just about everything the WT has told you would happen has proved false, and in many lands now they are dying a slow death.
It's not easy to make the break because it is a very cozy way of life that JWs have.I lost many (so called) good friends when I left of my own accord but I am so glad that I did break free.
I hope you will have the courage to break free yourself.
Blaise

East Orange, NJ

#5 Dec 4, 2010
aadriver wrote:
Blaise
Once you start questioning what you have always thought as true it is amazing how clear things become.
Like most JWs I used to pounce on anything in the news that seemed to justify us calling our time the last days.
Since leaving it is as if a veil has been lifted off me.
We are actually living in the best time of human history.
People are living longer, are much healthier than years ago, we can travel the world (if we save up),we are giving billions of dollers to those in need every year and it is really making a difference.
Just about everything the WT has told you would happen has proved false, and in many lands now they are dying a slow death.
It's not easy to make the break because it is a very cozy way of life that JWs have.I lost many (so called) good friends when I left of my own accord but I am so glad that I did break free.
I hope you will have the courage to break free yourself.
thank you aadriver this is very encouraging
AuroraMom

Aurora, IL

#6 Dec 4, 2010
What if all fairy tales are true?
What if zombies take over the planet?
What if Godzilla comes to town?
What if the Lockness monster exists?

These are just as ridiculous as the WBTS fairy tale of Armageddon where 99.99% of the world is murdered unless they worship a publishing company
Sister Hops on one foot

Clearlake, CA

#7 Dec 4, 2010
If I were to worship a publishing company it would have to be the publisher of Mad Magazine. The founder of Mad Magazine who to me looks much more like God than any of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and I can tell just Looking at William Gains that he would never be as cruel to Fred Franz as the governing body was!

Here is a picture of William Gains that clearly shows his divine nature:

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/william...

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#8 Dec 4, 2010
Blaise wrote:
“I’m still one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have many doubts and questions as to whether or not the Watchtower Organization is really ‘The Truth.’ I’m so confused, and I feel like I just want to walk away, but what keeps me here is the fear that Armageddon will come. I don’t want to be destroyed! I want to be on Jehovah’s side, but I’m so afraid. What if Jehovah’s Witnesses are right about Armageddon, after all? If I leave will I be destroyed by Jehovah FOREVER? I don’t want to die! I just don’t know what to do… I feel so trapped!”
Unfortunately, your mind and heart have been badly affected by the cult teachings that if you don't obey THEM then the Watchtowergod will kill you (as in all those hideous artist's depictions they so love to throw out at you as "reminders')....

but when you have the COURAGE to walk away from all these fear-based and "never doing enough for God" beliefs....the thick scales will fall from your eyes and you WILL be able to see the wonderful and glorious light of truth come streaming through those dark clouds of WTS doom and gloom.

KEEPING you scared is their goal....look at the "talks" at conventions and assemblies! That "do more-do MORE" mentality means to get out and place MORE literature and get MORE converts into the WTS!

The WTS does not take too well to the idea that Jesus said that when you follow HIM...well lets SEE what he said....."For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light." Matt 11:30.....but the WTS keeps ON adding burden after burden so that you are walking on your knees...and STILL "in fear" of not pleasing God!

I faced this same dilemma and I prayed and researched the history of the WTS and saw the mistreatment and LACK of love in the congregation....and it took nearly a year to fully recognize that I had been lured into a cult and pulled my children in with me. It was a bitter pill to swallow and I had watched my family fall apart year by year as ones left the WTS.

Since I stood up for what was RIGHT...and walked away from what was WRONG....the control of ungodly men.....

I have been blessed with contentment, peace of mind, my family (all but one) has been restored, and the depth of my spirituality has increased FAR BEYOND what I had ever hoped to experience! I do not FEAR armageddon or not putting in enough hours every month to please God, etc. My elitist views have changed dramatically and I no longer choose friends based on where they worship.

My life has taken a 180 degree turn....all for the better....and I KNOW I have been blessed over and over again!

I hope this helps.....

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#9 Dec 4, 2010
Blaise wrote:
“I’m still one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have many doubts and questions as to whether or not the Watchtower Organization is really ‘The Truth.’ I’m so confused, and I feel like I just want to walk away, but what keeps me here is the fear that Armageddon will come. I don’t want to be destroyed! I want to be on Jehovah’s side, but I’m so afraid. What if Jehovah’s Witnesses are right about Armageddon, after all? If I leave will I be destroyed by Jehovah FOREVER? I don’t want to die! I just don’t know what to do… I feel so trapped!”
I was born into the organization in 1942. I was thrown out for apostasy in 1970. It appears that the GOD of Jesus is not the same god as the one worshiped by the organization.

If you examine both the teachings of the historical Jesus and the teachings of Judaism you find that both teachings agree on the omnipresence of GOD. This is the key point that got me disfellowshiped and had the organization warn my family that I was in league with Satan as they differ with Jesus in that their god is a limited god of conditional love that lives somewhere out in the Pliedes star system.

I at one point shared your fear but today I accept that GOD is infinite unconditional LOVE just as Jesus said and have confirmed it's truth for myself. You can too if you wish and it is much easier than the false draconian system of judgment of a wrathful god that is going to destroy 99.9 % of all men, women, and children on the Earth in a blood bath called Armageddon that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses uses to keep people from leaving their organization.(it is interesting that the word "Armageddon" occurs only once in the disputed book of Revelation and nowhere else in the entire Hebrew and Greek Scriptures.

As I have posted in other threads, the simple process of the logical application of just three scriptures attributed to Jesus is all that you really need to attain eternal life:

following the three simple steps shown by Jesus proves to any individual who puts forth the effort how the statement made by him at Luke 17:21. "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. " can be true and is the mystical truth that each of us needs to experience that really does lead to eternal life!

One. Get to know GOD.(John 17:3)

(the organization says you can't and altered john 17:3 to prove their point)

Two. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.(Mathew 22:37)

(If you accepted the false translation in the New World Translation of the important scripture at John 17:3 you can't LOVE GOD as you don't know GOD, only the empty words of men),(but if you reached out to GOD, you will find it impossible not to LOVE GOD as soon as you have begun your journey)

Three. Love your neighbor as yourself.(Mathew 22:39)

(To LOVE completely you have to follow all of the steps than it is not only easy, it is fun to spread LOVE wherever you go!)(and again as you get to know GOD and LOVE GOD, you will find it impossible not to LOVE your neighbor)

The more of us who follow these three simple steps outlined in the Bible the sooner we can start building the paradise here on earth that so many are praying and longing for!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
AuroraMom

Aurora, IL

#10 Dec 4, 2010
Nedoba wrote:
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Unfortunately, your mind and heart have been badly affected by the cult teachings that if you don't obey THEM then the Watchtowergod will kill you (as in all those hideous artist's depictions they so love to throw out at you as "reminders')....
but when you have the COURAGE to walk away from all these fear-based and "never doing enough for God" beliefs....the thick scales will fall from your eyes and you WILL be able to see the wonderful and glorious light of truth come streaming through those dark clouds of WTS doom and gloom.
KEEPING you scared is their goal....look at the "talks" at conventions and assemblies! That "do more-do MORE" mentality means to get out and place MORE literature and get MORE converts into the WTS!
The WTS does not take too well to the idea that Jesus said that when you follow HIM...well lets SEE what he said....."For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light." Matt 11:30.....but the WTS keeps ON adding burden after burden so that you are walking on your knees...and STILL "in fear" of not pleasing God!
I faced this same dilemma and I prayed and researched the history of the WTS and saw the mistreatment and LACK of love in the congregation....and it took nearly a year to fully recognize that I had been lured into a cult and pulled my children in with me. It was a bitter pill to swallow and I had watched my family fall apart year by year as ones left the WTS.
Since I stood up for what was RIGHT...and walked away from what was WRONG....the control of ungodly men.....
I have been blessed with contentment, peace of mind, my family (all but one) has been restored, and the depth of my spirituality has increased FAR BEYOND what I had ever hoped to experience! I do not FEAR armageddon or not putting in enough hours every month to please God, etc. My elitist views have changed dramatically and I no longer choose friends based on where they worship.
My life has taken a 180 degree turn....all for the better....and I KNOW I have been blessed over and over again!
I hope this helps.....
Yes, the brainwashing and propaganda of the WBTS do work, it is what they do, and they do it well.
It is how the WBTS exists!
If people were not afraid for their lives, they would not stay.
It is the job of the WBTS to keep their members in mortal fear.
Lightseer

Santa Maria, CA

#11 Dec 4, 2010
This fear that keeps people in is serious flawed.

Even as a child, I wondered why *I* was obligated to walk the narrow, sacrificing JW road, hoping that I would be saved at Armageddon. Otherwise, I'd suffer eternal destruction.

Whereas those who lived their lives the way they wanted, outside of the rigorous demands of the JWs, would still be resurrected if they died in this system of things.

*I* had to do the hard work, have faith that Armageddon was near, and stay a JW or I'd die forever. They could live great lives, then die, and be assured of a resurrection, because as the JWs say, the wages of sin is death.

I figured I'd believe, too, if I saw that I had come back to life. They only had to have faith in what they've seen; I, otoh, on what I *haven't seen.

I looked, for example, at my father, who had at first opposed "the truth" then later passively allowed my mom to pursue it. I knew he'd likely precede me in death, and then should Armageddon come after that,*he* would be resurrected, and I would suffer a brutal death without the hope of resurrection because I might have rejected the "truth" or in some way failed to live up to its requirements.

I figured I was better off NOT trying to be a JW, or dying before the end of this system.

Looking at it in this way helped me see how irrational and fear-mongering the WTBS was.
AuroraMom

Aurora, IL

#12 Dec 4, 2010
Lightseer wrote:
This fear that keeps people in is serious flawed.
Even as a child, I wondered why *I* was obligated to walk the narrow, sacrificing JW road, hoping that I would be saved at Armageddon. Otherwise, I'd suffer eternal destruction.
Whereas those who lived their lives the way they wanted, outside of the rigorous demands of the JWs, would still be resurrected if they died in this system of things.
*I* had to do the hard work, have faith that Armageddon was near, and stay a JW or I'd die forever. They could live great lives, then die, and be assured of a resurrection, because as the JWs say, the wages of sin is death.
I figured I'd believe, too, if I saw that I had come back to life. They only had to have faith in what they've seen; I, otoh, on what I *haven't seen.
I looked, for example, at my father, who had at first opposed "the truth" then later passively allowed my mom to pursue it. I knew he'd likely precede me in death, and then should Armageddon come after that,*he* would be resurrected, and I would suffer a brutal death without the hope of resurrection because I might have rejected the "truth" or in some way failed to live up to its requirements.
I figured I was better off NOT trying to be a JW, or dying before the end of this system.
Looking at it in this way helped me see how irrational and fear-mongering the WTBS was.
You are a brave woman, you should be proud of yourself.
Only those of us that have been indoctrinated since childhood, know how deeply the fear is embedded.
Bravo!
Lightseer

Santa Maria, CA

#13 Dec 4, 2010
AuroraMom wrote:
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You are a brave woman, you should be proud of yourself.
Only those of us that have been indoctrinated since childhood, know how deeply the fear is embedded.
Bravo!
Thank you, AuroraMom!

It's so amazing and reassuring to see the same stories of courage and character, such as you own. We're not alone. And if we can help others, it makes it so much more worthwhile. You have my highest respect.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#14 Dec 4, 2010
If ANY readers are having serious doubts about the Watchtower being "the truth"....do not just dismiss these thoughts and figure "Jehovah" will take care of it...

what MORE do you need to tell you that HE is urging you to get OUT of this cult and INTO his light and glory!

Don't waste any more of your precious life pleasing the controlling and fraudulent men who run the Watchtower!

Revelation 18:4 and Psalms 146:3 isn't just for "all the others" you know!

I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "(Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
AuroraMom

Aurora, IL

#15 Dec 4, 2010
Lightseer wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, AuroraMom!
It's so amazing and reassuring to see the same stories of courage and character, such as you own. We're not alone. And if we can help others, it makes it so much more worthwhile. You have my highest respect.
Back at ya Lightseer!!
We are a small group, it is nice to hear your courageous experience.
We are not alone <3
jace

Alexandria, VA

#16 Dec 4, 2010
AuroraMom wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the brainwashing and propaganda of the WBTS do work, it is what they do, and they do it well.
It is how the WBTS exists!
If people were not afraid for their lives, they would not stay.
It is the job of the WBTS to keep their members in mortal fear.
bingo
jace

Alexandria, VA

#17 Dec 4, 2010
JW live in the FOG- we all know cause we too used to live in the FOG

F- FEAR
O- OBLIGATION
G- GUILT

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#18 Dec 4, 2010
Blaise wrote:
“I’m still one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have many doubts and questions as to whether or not the Watchtower Organization is really ‘The Truth.’ I’m so confused, and I feel like I just want to walk away, but what keeps me here is the fear that Armageddon will come. I don’t want to be destroyed! I want to be on Jehovah’s side, but I’m so afraid. What if Jehovah’s Witnesses are right about Armageddon, after all? If I leave will I be destroyed by Jehovah FOREVER? I don’t want to die! I just don’t know what to do… I feel so trapped!”
I've heard many times over that the fear of Armageddon coming is what keeps JW's at bay. In my opinion based upon the book of Revelation the battle at Armageddon is in the past, so you have nothing to fear in that regards. Jehovah will not destroy you at Armageddon since it was a 1st Century judgment on apostate Israel. The internal evidence of the NT suggests strongly that this is the preferred interpretation due to the language of a close coming judgment, the day of the Lord is at hand, it being the last hour, the last days etc. All of these terms describe the same event about to take place, namely, the end of the Jewish age which was to have it's finality in a judgment for rejecting the Messiah. Obviously you will need to research these things for yourself. If you would like a helping hand then private message me and i will direct you to a resource that deals with these things.
danna

Dudley, UK

#19 Jul 11, 2012
I am studying right now with Witnesses... I have looked into many religions and found this to be the one true to the bible.!! The situation here is ones who have fell away and see it their mission to be apostate.. Can you not see the decline in so many things.. immorality... having no natural affection ...murders... adulteress ect ect... Jesus warned of these events in Matthew 24 and the signs of what was to happen.. It is all happening before our eyes.
I dn`t take anyone telling me something that isn't true or doesn't make sense.
Armageddon is fast approaching and all the signs are there.. Jehovah is a loving god that is why Jehovah s witnesses give up their time to knock your door... yes yours....so that you have the chance to come to know him and be saved..If Heaven was our only hope then prey tell me why did god create humans in the beginning when we could all just live in Heaven? We are earthly creatures with an earthly hope to live forever upon it.. Why even scientists say they are baffled why the human heart stops beating when it is designed to go on forever....I could go on and on..... the list is endless to our amazing bodies are designed to live forever!

“thirdwitness.com”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#20 Jul 11, 2012
danna wrote:
I am studying right now with Witnesses... I have looked into many religions and found this to be the one true to the bible.!! The situation here is ones who have fell away and see it their mission to be apostate.. Can you not see the decline in so many things.. immorality... having no natural affection ...murders... adulteress ect ect... Jesus warned of these events in Matthew 24 and the signs of what was to happen.. It is all happening before our eyes.
I dn`t take anyone telling me something that isn't true or doesn't make sense.
Armageddon is fast approaching and all the signs are there.. Jehovah is a loving god that is why Jehovah s witnesses give up their time to knock your door... yes yours....so that you have the chance to come to know him and be saved..If Heaven was our only hope then prey tell me why did god create humans in the beginning when we could all just live in Heaven? We are earthly creatures with an earthly hope to live forever upon it.. Why even scientists say they are baffled why the human heart stops beating when it is designed to go on forever....I could go on and on..... the list is endless to our amazing bodies are designed to live forever!
Well said. Please do not believe everything you read on the internet. There are many lies and made up stories out there.

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